On 24/02/15 17:08, Anto wrote:
Here is what I plan to do:
1. Re-install Xen DomU image of Debian squeeze
2. Add the following files:
# cat /etc/apt/preferences.d/blocksystemd
Package: *systemd*
Pin: origin ""
Pin-Priority: -1
#
# cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/77norecommends
APT:
On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 07:32:05PM -0430, Richard wrote:
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> >
> > And leaving the code as-is might be the faster way to get to Devuan 1.0.
> >
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On 28 February 2015 16:19:58 CET, Svante Signell
wrote:
>On Sat, 2015-02-28 at 09:45 -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
>>
>> I read the Debian installer mailing list since I upgraded to Jessie
>> early and had huge difficulties. Yes, there are currently many
>> gotchas. There's apparently a bug
On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 2:31 AM, Go Linux wrote:
> fsmithred over at Refracta created a live iso of the valentine's pre-alpha
> with refractasnapshot. He said I could post a link here for those who want
> to check it out but don't want to install.
>
> http://distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/files/othe
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 03:12:54PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> I think we're seeing cultural differences here. What may not be a
> swearword in one community may be in another.
The guy is east european and has a very loose grasp on the english language.
It's not a cultural difference, it's plai
Hello Everybody,
I managed to re-compile nginx 1.6.2-5 from Debian jessie repository, and
it seems to be installed and running fine. What I did is basically just
removing everything that I thought to be related to systemd. But I am
not really sure if I did that properly. I would really appreci
On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 06:11:42PM -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> * On 2015 28 Feb 17:07 -0600, T.J. Duchene wrote:
> > As for systemd having "tentacles", there is certainly truth to that, but
> > then the same argument could be said of Python or Perl. Both are rooted
> > so far into "standard" dis
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 06:55:01PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 10:09:50PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:
> >
> >
> > Aren't there wallpapers provided by the DE's, eg. xfce4? In this
> > case, it isn't usefull to provide anything else.
> > Didier
>
> And in fact, it wo
On Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 01:09:21AM -0500, Gravis wrote:
> now we're tech support?
To an extent, yes.
We need to know what problems people have with our software, so we can
either fix it or fix the documentation.
Or do we want to be accused of "notlistening to our users"?
-- hendrik
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On Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 01:53:11AM -0500, Gravis wrote:
> > Having [perl and python] doesn't cost much, IMO.
>
> this is true however, you only need a single deep-seeded flaw to
> exploit an entire system when it comes to scripting. for further
> reading, see bash.
This is true of any library yo
On Sun, 3/1/15, Jude Nelson wrote:
Subject: Re: [Dng] What if systemd infects the kernel?
To: "Gravis"
Cc: "dng@lists.dyne.org"
Date: Sunday, March 1, 2015, 12:01 AM
>> I have been aware of the pending assimilation of systemd into the kernel
>> since Linus dramatically rejected Kay
>> S
On 01/03/15 17:38, Hendrik Boom wrote:
On Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 01:09:21AM -0500, Gravis wrote:
now we're tech support?
To an extent, yes.
We need to know what problems people have with our software, so we can
either fix it or fix the documentation.
Or do we want to be accused of "notlistening
On Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 06:06:01PM +0100, Anto wrote:
> On 01/03/15 17:38, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >On Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 01:09:21AM -0500, Gravis wrote:
> >>now we're tech support?
> >To an extent, yes.
> >
> >We need to know what problems people have with our software, so we can
> >either fix it
On Sun, 3/1/15, Anto wrote:
Subject: Re: [Dng] us as tech support
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Date: Sunday, March 1, 2015, 11:06 AM
On 01/03/15 17:38,
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 01:09:21AM -0500, Gravis wrote:
>>> now we're tech support?
>> To an extent, yes.
>>
>> We need to
+1 on this.
That should be the main point or one of them. If not point to FAQs,
Installation docs. Hey can this be added to git? I'll help.
On 03/01/2015 12:06 PM, Anto wrote:
On 01/03/15 17:38, Hendrik Boom wrote:
On Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 01:09:21AM -0500, Gravis wrote:
now we're tech suppo
On 01/03/15 18:27, Hendrik Boom wrote:
This is the right mailing list. There is no other at present.
Gravis expressed surprise at having a tech support request, but
he *did* answer the question.
I'm happy to have seen the first tech support request here.
It's a milestone.
I just expected it
On Sun, 1 Mar 2015 09:01:58 -0500
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 06:11:42PM -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> > * On 2015 28 Feb 17:07 -0600, T.J. Duchene wrote:
> > > As for systemd having "tentacles", there is certainly truth to
> > > that, but then the same argument could be said of
You may want to see if the vps provider supports uploading your own
(devuan) iso image. I remember finding one for a project that wanted to
use Slack.
On 03/01/2015 01:03 PM, Anto wrote:
On 01/03/15 18:27, Hendrik Boom wrote:
This is the right mailing list. There is no other at present.
Gra
As some of you know, I'm in the CTF.
Being here, I wonder:
Can Devuan be a security-aware, privacy-aware distro?
Er Envite
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On 01/03/15 19:18, etech3 wrote:
You may want to see if the vps provider supports uploading your own
(devuan) iso image. I remember finding one for a project that wanted
to use Slack.
I have already asked and they do not support that. It could possibly be
that I took their cheapest plan, so t
...CTF?
On 1 March 2015 at 20:20, envite wrote:
> As some of you know, I'm in the CTF.
>
> Being here, I wonder:
>
> Can Devuan be a security-aware, privacy-aware distro?
>
> Er Envite
>
>
> Enviado de Samsung Mobile
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On 03/01/2015 01:53 PM, Martijn Dekkers wrote:
> ...CTF?
>
Probably the [Circumvention Tech Festival][0], as in the subject.
[0]: https://openitp.org/festival/about.html
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On Mar 1, 2015 1:50 PM, "envite" wrote:
>
> As some of you know, I'm in the CTF.
>
> Being here, I wonder:
>
> Can Devuan be a security-aware, privacy-aware distro?
>
> Er Envite
>
>
> Enviado de Samsung Mobile
>
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dear Envite,
On Sun, 01 Mar 2015, envite wrote:
>Being here, I wonder:
>Can Devuan be a security-aware, privacy-aware distro?
Devuan 1.0 is not yet there: until then we are not building a lot of
character beyond being systemd-free and fork-friendly.
We do inherit a lot from Debian, esp
Am 01.03.2015 00:04 schrieb T.J. Duchene:
As for systemd having "tentacles", there is certainly truth to that,
but
then the same argument could be said of Python or Perl. Both are
rooted
so far into "standard" distributions that it is hard to extract them.
As other members have already point
On Sun, 01 Mar 2015 18:06:01 +0100
Anto wrote:
> On 01/03/15 17:38, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > On Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 01:09:21AM -0500, Gravis wrote:
> >> now we're tech support?
> > To an extent, yes.
> >
> > We need to know what problems people have with our software, so we
> > can either fix it
Take a look at https://my.vultr.com, Don't know anything about them so
YWMV. I know you can upload Slack.
On 03/01/2015 01:48 PM, Anto wrote:
On 01/03/15 19:18, etech3 wrote:
You may want to see if the vps provider supports uploading your own
(devuan) iso image. I remember finding one for a p
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 03:12:54PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 07:22:26PM +0300, Jack L. Frost wrote:
> > > Could you please cease ??kickass?? here -- for people read your news
> > > also, but such rudness leaves them nothing but to shrink from your
> > > writing. Thanks ag
I tried using the valentine installer on a disk that already had three
primary partitions and a lot of empty space.
I could not get manual partitioning to leave the existing partitions
alone and install devuan to secondary partitions in the empty space. The
closest I could get was a question w
On Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 05:44:47PM +, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> I tried using the valentine installer on a disk that already had three
> primary partitions and a lot of empty space.
In case it's relevant, I was using the expert install, wanting to make
my own paritioning decisions. That's what
@Hendrik,
I installed Valentine on an existing partition of a 150 GiB HD on an Acer
Aspire One. As I remember the terminology of the installer is a bit vague
on the subject. I must have changed the FS to ext4 since that is what it
reports via lsblk.
On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 1:14 PM, Hendrik Boom wr
dear Hendrik,
On Sun, 01 Mar 2015, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> I tried using the valentine installer on a disk that already had three
> primary partitions and a lot of empty space.
>
> I could not get manual partitioning to leave the existing partitions
> alone and install devuan to secondary parti
On Sun, 3/1/15, Hendrik Boom wrote:
Subject: [Dng] No way to use a prepartioned disk?
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Date: Sunday, March 1, 2015, 11:44 AM
> I tried using the valentine installer on a disk that already had three
> primary partitions and a lot of empty space.
>
> I could not get manu
On Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 10:44:20PM +0100, Jaromil wrote:
>
> dear Hendrik,
>
> On Sun, 01 Mar 2015, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > I tried using the valentine installer on a disk that already had three
> > primary partitions and a lot of empty space.
> >
> > I could not get manual partitioning to l
On Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at 05:07:10PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> Interesting. I've used the Debian installer before, I think in the
> time of wheezy, and it worked with existing partitions.
So does the one in jessie.
I guess you did something wrong. As long as one partition is marked for
mounti
https://git.devuan.org/devuan-doc group is looking for participants,
especially Debianites working with the Debian Documentation Project.
So far the existing Debian Manuals repository was imported from the SVN,
and available at https://git.devuan.org/devuan-doc/debian-manuals
https://git.devuan.o
On Sun, 01 Mar 2015, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> Interesting. I've used the Debian installer before, I think in the
> time of wheezy, and it worked with existing partitions. Could sticking
> systemd into it have broken their partitioning? Did they really put
> systemd into the installer??
systemd
On Mar 1, 2015 5:58 PM, "Jaromil" wrote:
>
> On Sun, 01 Mar 2015, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > Interesting. I've used the Debian installer before, I think in the
> > time of wheezy, and it worked with existing partitions. Could sticking
> > systemd into it have broken their partitioning? Did they r
>
> On 03/01/2015 04:41 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:> On Sun, Mar 01, 2015 at
> 05:44:47PM +, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>>> I tried using the valentine installer on a disk that already had three
>>> primary partitions and a lot of empty space.
>>
>> In case it's relevant, I was using the expert instal
On Sun, 2015-03-01 at 21:12 +0100, Philip Lacroix wrote:
> As other members have already pointed out, this is not a fair
> comparison.
Perhaps. The reasons I made the comparison are:
a) All of them have a dependency chain so interwoven and complex that
they become non-trivial to remove. You
On Sun, 1 Mar 2015, T.J. Duchene wrote:
On Sun, 2015-03-01 at 21:12 +0100, Philip Lacroix wrote:
As other members have already pointed out, this is not a fair
comparison.
Perhaps. The reasons I made the comparison are:
a) All of them have a dependency chain so interwoven and complex that
t
Hi all,
In a previous thread I discussed the usefulness and productivity of
using dmenu in parallel with the hierarchical menu. I'm about 1/4 done,
all of it dmenu general and not specific to Devuan, because I still
don't know how Devuan's dmenu package will look.
Anyway, you can see what's there
Evening!
Just wanted to shout out that tonight I compiled the new XFCE 4.12
released yesterday. Like Inigo Montoya in the Princess Bride: I hate
waiting...
There are some nice improvements in there, and I would definitely
recommend it over the version that Devuan is likely to inherit from
Debian
> On March 2, 2015 at 12:07 AM Steve Litt wrote:
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> In a previous thread I discussed the usefulness and productivity of
> using dmenu in parallel with the hierarchical menu. I'm about 1/4 done,
> all of it dmenu general and not specific to Devuan, because I still
> don't know how
On 03/01/2015 05:56 PM, Tor Myklebust wrote:
The perl-base package pre-depends on libc6 and dpkg. And nothing else.
I was not referring to all the software that depends on them when using
Debian/Devuan. I've never believed that they make good choice for a
required component. Frankly, I've
On 03/02/2015 12:16 AM, T.J. Duchene wrote:
I was not referring to all the software that depends on them when
using Debian/Devuan.
*I was referring to all the software that depends on them when using
Debian/Devuan. *
Bad editing on my part. Mea Culpa.
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I wonder - is it possible to mix 4.12 components with 4.10 ones?
If yes, we could backport only user-visible parts (xfwm4, Thunar, xfce4-panel,
etc') to keep maintenance costs down.
On Sun, 01 Mar 2015 23:24:49 -0600
"T.J. Duchene" wrote:
> Evening!
>
> Just wanted to shout out that tonight I
On 03/02/2015 01:01 AM, Dima Krasner wrote:
I wonder - is it possible to mix 4.12 components with 4.10 ones?
If yes, we could backport only user-visible parts (xfwm4, Thunar, xfce4-panel,
etc') to keep maintenance costs down.
My first response to that is probably "Sorry, but no." While the
On Mon, Mar 02, 2015 at 12:18:56AM -0600, T.J. Duchene wrote:
>
> On 03/02/2015 12:16 AM, T.J. Duchene wrote:
> >>
> >I was not referring to all the software that depends on them when
> >using Debian/Devuan.
>
> *I was referring to all the software that depends on them when using
> Debian/Devuan.
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