On 26 February 2015 01:21:07 CET, Neo Futur wrote:
>>> That leaves the 2% benefit of cgroups, whose benefit boils down to,
>and anyway openrc supports cgroups ;)
>( my 2 cents : and should be used in future versions of devuan ;)
I agree with this and hope OpenRC keeps supporting Linux without i
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 17:02:42 +0100
Godefridus Daalmans wrote:
> Well, I have an idea for a discussion about "re-architecting" Linux,
> however it is very likely that this is just my lack of understanding
> speaking:
>
> I am aware that task #1 is providing Devuan Jessie (without systemd),
> a
Hi Everyone,
I was getting desparate thinking there will be no alternative to systemd's
logind.
I also saw the consolekit was depreciated for quite a while. Alas! I was
happy to
find this just now:
https://github.com/ConsoleKit2/ConsoleKit2
I would be happy to see this packaged for devuan.
Che
On 02/24/2015 09:54 PM, Vernon Geiszler wrote:
> >> > I think this question goes together with the badge or logo
> question. It
> >>> must go beyond "sans-systemd";
> > >> it is more about principles. Let's list some:
> > >>
> >> > - freedom of choice,
> >> > - interchangealility of solution
Of course. Should I make that link public on this list?
Thanks.
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Go Linux wrote:
> On Wed, 2/25/15, Linuxito wrote:
>
> > Subject: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey
> > To: dng@lists.dyne.org
> > Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2015, 10:10 AM
> >
> > Hi people,
> >
> > As
Hi Anto,
I like the same logo too. If you check out the logo submissions page on
Without Systemd Wiki (
http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Category:Logo), you'll see that
there is no corresponding "logo with text" (as I called it) version.
Maybe we can ask the author to create a text versi
Le 25/02/2015 22:11, Go Linux a écrit :
This excellent analysis of the systemd debacle was just posted over on FDN.
Should be required reading IMO. Enjoy!
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=120652&p=570371
golinux
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On Thu, 26 Feb 2015, Linuxito wrote:
>Of course. Should I make that link public on this list?
perhaps not, just mail the pass to golinux
waters are calmer, but trolls and vandalism is still behind the corner,
we cannot be too lax on our infrastructure. by the time the systemd
hooligans will
Thanks Jaromil,
We outpassed the 100 responses limit in the survey (122 actually) and sadly
surveymonkey will only show you that 100 (unless you pay).
I'm going to send the link to golinux.
Have a great day.
Emiliano.
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Jaromil wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Feb 2015, Lin
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015, Linuxito wrote:
>Thanks Jaromil,
>
>We outpassed the 100 responses limit in the survey (122 actually)
>and sadly surveymonkey will only show you that 100 (unless you
>pay).
we do have funds to pay that in case the design workgroup deems it as a
useful way to
If this is something we are going to be doing more often, I can deploy
https://opinahq.com/ or https://www.limesurvey.org/en/ (or whatever else
people prefer)
On 26 February 2015 at 13:54, Jaromil wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Feb 2015, Linuxito wrote:
>
> >Thanks Jaromil,
> >
> >We outpassed the
I tried limesurvey once, works great. That would be great.
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 9:14 AM, Martijn Dekkers <
devuan-li...@dekkers.org.uk> wrote:
> If this is something we are going to be doing more often, I can deploy
> https://opinahq.com/ or https://www.limesurvey.org/en/ (or whatever else
> p
On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 8:15 AM, Anthony Scemama wrote:
> I found this image on the web:
>
> http://tux.crystalxp.net/png/kros753-kiss-the-demon-2286.png
>
> It's a good mix between KISS and Linux!
> If you like it, I can ask the guys from CrystalXP.net if it can be used for
> Devuan.
I don't wan
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Martijn Dekkers
wrote:
> If this is something we are going to be doing more often, I can deploy
> https://opinahq.com/ or https://www.limesurvey.org/en/ (or whatever else
> people prefer)
If there's a way to make sure each user only votes once, it would be
intere
who are "the general population"?
On 26 February 2015 at 14:59, Nuno Magalhães
wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Martijn Dekkers
> wrote:
> > If this is something we are going to be doing more often, I can deploy
> > https://opinahq.com/ or https://www.limesurvey.org/en/ (or whatever e
The survey was configured to allow only one vote for IP address.
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Nuno Magalhães
wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Martijn Dekkers
> wrote:
> > If this is something we are going to be doing more often, I can deploy
> > https://opinahq.com/ or https://www
On 26/02/15 14:15, Martijn Dekkers wrote:
who are "the general population"?
I guess that would be the people who are really desperate to have Debian
without systemd and its related components, like me :D
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On 02/26/15 10:24, Linuxito wrote:
> The survey was configured to allow only one vote for IP address.
>
*** Which allows me, a Tor user, to reload the page and vote again.
When will people realize that IP address != person? What about people
sharing a proxy? "Sorry, you already voted!" "N!"
On 26/02/15 15:50, hellekin wrote:
The logo threads are multiplying: it shows the impatience is growing.
What I'd like to see instead is a focus on a real issue we have, which
is shipping desktop background designs. This is not a unique item, so
people can have the distro shipped with the backgr
Well, that's the only possibility that tool has to offer for free. I know
its limitations. I just wanted to help someway. Sorry for the inconvenience.
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 11:50 AM, hellekin wrote:
> On 02/26/15 10:24, Linuxito wrote:
> > The survey was configured to allow only one vote for I
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015, hellekin wrote:
> On 02/26/15 10:24, Linuxito wrote:
> > The survey was configured to allow only one vote for IP address.
> >
> *** Which allows me, a Tor user, to reload the page and vote again.
> When will people realize that IP address != person? What about people
> shari
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 04:05:40PM +0100, Anto wrote:
> On 26/02/15 15:50, hellekin wrote:
> >The logo threads are multiplying: it shows the impatience is growing.
> >What I'd like to see instead is a focus on a real issue we have, which
> >is shipping desktop background designs. This is not a uni
+1 hendrik
May I suggest some timeline milestones here (which I know is around to
the Devs). I for one would look forword to a working base install with
no DE. That could be a alpha 0.XX milestone.
Just saying ...
As golinux says, may the fork be with you
On 02/26/2015 12:04 PM, Hendrik Boo
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 12:19:05PM -0500, etech3 wrote:
> +1 hendrik
>
> May I suggest some timeline milestones here (which I know is around
> to the Devs). I for one would look forword to a working base install
> with no DE. That could be a alpha 0.XX milestone.
Do you meen no X? no window mana
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 12:43:50PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 12:19:05PM -0500, etech3 wrote:
> > +1 hendrik
> >
> > May I suggest some timeline milestones here (which I know is around
> > to the Devs). I for one would look forword to a working base install
> > with no DE
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015, etech3 wrote:
> +1 hendrik
yes, we will not cover up boot with framebuffer stuff for sure.
so to say
Devuan is sugar-free and doesn't makes your computer fat :^)
> May I suggest some timeline milestones here (which I know is around
> to the Devs). I for one would look forw
On 26/02/15 18:04, Hendrik Boom wrote:
And don't want Devuan deelopers to waste time on them if it means
delaying our release. After a usable release, we'll have time for
such matters.
-- hendrik
Hello Hendrik,
I agree with what you mentioned as the highest priority is to get the
first vers
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 07:22:15PM +0100, Anto wrote:
> On 26/02/15 18:04, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> >And don't want Devuan deelopers to waste time on them if it means
> >delaying our release. After a usable release, we'll have time for
> >such matters.
> >
> >-- hendrik
>
> Hello Hendrik,
>
> I agr
I agree with you. We need identity, and more important, we need a brand.
Although I know nothing about marketing, I think a logo it's the most
important component of a brand. It will help us make our distribution known
by others, it will bring contributions, donations, etc.
So I believe choosing
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 04:03:42PM -0300, Linuxito wrote:
> I agree with you. We need identity, and more important, we need a brand.
>
> Although I know nothing about marketing, I think a logo it's the most
> important component of a brand. It will help us make our distribution known
> by others,
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 07:13:38PM +, KatolaZ wrote:
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>
>
> Well, I agree about the necessity of having a logo, but there is no
> point into having a great brand without anything concrete behind it,
> IMHO. I believe that the most important thing at the moment is to have
> a working De
On Thu, 2/26/15, Linuxito wrote:
Subject: Re: [Dng] simple backgrounds
To: "Anto"
Cc: "dng"
Date: Thursday, February 26, 2015, 1:03 PM
> I agree with you. We need identity, and more important, we need a brand.
>
> Although I know nothing about marketing, I think a logo it's the most
> i
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 22:48:12 -0500
Clarke Sideroad wrote:
> Not mine.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYpnbbONrKw
>
> Clarke
Oh my gosh, that guy (he calls himself Fireicer Cooper) really is in
love with himself. I thought it was just a summer thing.
Just gotta be amazed when this guy sugges
On Tue, 2015-02-24 at 22:40 +0100, Oz Nahum Tiram wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
>
>
> I was getting desparate thinking there will be no alternative to
> systemd's logind.
>
> I also saw the consolekit was depreciated for quite a while. Alas! I
> was happy to
>
> find this just now:
>
> https://gi
On Thursday, 26 de February de 2015 17:54:01 Jaromil escribió:
> On Thu, 26 Feb 2015, etech3 wrote:
> > +1 hendrik
>
> yes, we will not cover up boot with framebuffer stuff for sure.
>
> so to say
>
> Devuan is sugar-free and doesn't makes your computer fat :^)
I want the freedom to take my Dev
Le 26/02/2015 18:04, Hendrik Boom a écrit :
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 04:05:40PM +0100, Anto wrote:
On 26/02/15 15:50, hellekin wrote:
The logo threads are multiplying: it shows the impatience is growing.
What I'd like to see instead is a focus on a real issue we have, which
is shipping desktop
On 02/26/15 14:36, Steve Litt wrote:
On Wed, 25 Feb 2015 22:48:12 -0500
Clarke Sideroad wrote:
Not mine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYpnbbONrKw
Clarke
Oh my gosh, that guy (he calls himself Fireicer Cooper) really is in
love with himself. I thought it was just a summer thing.
Just gott
> On 02/26/15 10:24, Linuxito wrote:
>> The logo threads are multiplying: it shows the impatience is growing.
I disagree. IMHO the logo threads show a lot of users like to chip in
with their opinions. No harm there, and no impatience either. I
believe rushed things tend to hit fans. Therefore, i'd
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 7:42 PM, Go Linux wrote:
> The best solution would probably be to use a text identity until the graphics
> get sorted after the alpha is released.
There's a certain project called hasciicam which can be used to create
very nifty text logos...
> For the record . . . I sub
> http://www.saynotogmos.org/ss/penguins/trio.png
ha! it just needs words like "Linux: Strut your stuff" [?]
--Gravis
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Go Linux wrote:
> On Thu, 2/26/15, Linuxito wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [Dng] simple backgrounds
> To: "Anto"
> Cc: "dng"
> Date: Thursday,
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 06:02:16PM -0500, Gravis wrote:
> > http://www.saynotogmos.org/ss/penguins/trio.png
>
> ha! it just needs words like "Linux: Strut your stuff" [?]
I thought of photoshopping in a jail out of which they are
walking.
> --Gravis
--
Joel Roth
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 10:09:50PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:
>
> Le 26/02/2015 18:04, Hendrik Boom a écrit :
> >On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 04:05:40PM +0100, Anto wrote:
> >>On 26/02/15 15:50, hellekin wrote:
> >>>The logo threads are multiplying: it shows the impatience is growing.
> >>>What I'd like
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 10:22:28PM +, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Jaromil wrote:
> > Is likely not going to be the most interesting thing in Devuan, but
> > anyway I wish we tag this process soon with some black and white
> > minimalist design to be used,
>
> Prio
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > Prior to recent (at least in Debian) releases, Xorg came with the
> > classic checkered monochrome pattern, i'm cool with that :)
>
> No. The checkered monochrome background flickered horribly on some
> monitors. Bad default.
AFAIK it was there exac
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 10:22:28PM +, Nuno Magalh??es wrote:
> Prior to recent (at least in Debian) releases, Xorg came with the
> classic checkered monochrome pattern, i'm cool with that :)
> (Now it comes with a black background which is really moronic 'cos it
> leaves me wondering "Did --con
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