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LILO will not boot an UEFI. ELILO will. The switch is automatic, based
on the firmware. I boot wheezy on two HP laptops w/ Lilo. Grub-2 had an
ulcer with the HP UEFI. Do not think it was a grub-2 problem since I
have it working fine elsewhere but an
Hi,
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 3:47 AM, Jude Nelson wrote:
> Considering the dependencies on libsystemd0, libpam-systemd, libudev0, and
> libudev1, I get:
I don't see eudev or mdev in Debian's repos, are there any viable alternatives?
Cheers,
Nuno
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Dng
2015-01-31 2:35 GMT+01:00 william moss :
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> LILO will not boot an UEFI. ELILO will. The switch is automatic, based
> on the firmware. I boot wheezy on two HP laptops w/ Lilo. Grub-2 had an
> ulcer with the HP UEFI. Do not think it was a grub-2 pr
hi all,
as the time approaches for an alpha release, wouldn't be bad to have a
design in place for Devuan or perhaps an "beta design" on which to
gather reactions.
We had many logo submissions as one can see here
http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Category:Logo
And even one complete desi
dear Jude,
On Mon, 02 Feb 2015, Jude Nelson wrote:
>Hey everyone,
>Is there a list somewhere that has the packages in Jessie that depend on
>some part of systemd?* I'd like to get the ball rolling on compiling out
>systemd dependencies for Devuan packages, but I don't want to dupl
On 02/05/15 19:05, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 3:47 AM, Jude Nelson wrote:
Considering the dependencies on libsystemd0, libpam-systemd, libudev0, and
libudev1, I get:
I don't see eudev or mdev in Debian's repos, are there any viable alternatives?
Cheers,
Nuno
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On 02/08/2015 07:55 AM, Jaromil wrote:
>
> We had many logo submissions as one can see here
> http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Category:Logo
>
*** Without-Systemd.org is behind an anti-Tor Cloudflare wall. Please
disable it!
> And even one complete design study by Alban Crommel
> http:/
hi,
A fellow VUA has ...anonymously setup a logo survey here
https://it.surveymonkey.com/s/PJT8T3Q
On Sun, 08 Feb 2015, hellekin wrote:
> On 02/08/2015 07:55 AM, Jaromil wrote:
> >
> > We had many logo submissions as one can see here
> > http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Category:Log
My vote goes to the last logo from
http://albancrommer.github.io/devuan/Logo_2ndpass.pdf (D with a spiral). The
typography is great.
On Sun, 8 Feb 2015 10:55:57 +
Jaromil wrote:
>
> hi all,
>
> as the time approaches for an alpha release, wouldn't be bad to have a
> design in place for D
I also like the last logo the best. It's not on the survey, however.
-Jude
On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Dima Krasner wrote:
> My vote goes to the last logo from
> http://albancrommer.github.io/devuan/Logo_2ndpass.pdf (D with a spiral).
> The typography is great.
>
> On Sun, 8 Feb 2015 10:55
Ola!
_Vote_: Why don't you guys install a poll plugin [1] on the w/systemd
wiki ? Simple install, free and well known platform, reusable and
meaningul users list.
_Contest_: Bit of a rushed and short-sighted process IMO.
1. You'll be living with it for years. Don't go for a one-shot logo. Go
f
On 02/08/2015 03:19 PM, Dima Krasner wrote:
> My vote goes to the last logo from
> http://albancrommer.github.io/devuan/Logo_2ndpass.pdf (D with a spiral). The
> typography is great.
>
*** I like the idea of the spiral inside the D as well. It's vastly
superior to every other proposal IMO. What
On Sun, 2015-02-08 at 18:03 +, Jaromil wrote:
> hi,
>
> A fellow VUA has ...anonymously setup a logo survey here
> https://it.surveymonkey.com/s/PJT8T3Q
>
I don't know if I managed to vote: Got this (and I don't speak Italian
Grazie per aver partecipato all'indagine.
Ora puoi creare la tua i
Hey Jaromil,
I'm interested in maintaining dbus, but I don't quite understand the
proposed workflow for base packages. It sounds Jenkins will pull the
sources nightly from Debian (not upstream) and try to build Debian packages
from them, but with the Devuan versioning scheme. If so, is there a
s
If Google Translate has any accuracy, it means your vote was registered
(it's the usual Survey Monkey message, but in Italian).
-Jude
2015-02-08 13:38 GMT-05:00 Svante Signell :
> On Sun, 2015-02-08 at 18:03 +, Jaromil wrote:
> > hi,
> >
> > A fellow VUA has ...anonymously setup a logo surve
Ola!
You'll find all inkscape sources and more (typo, images) on
https://github.com/albancrommer/devuan
The typo _is_ indeed a beauty. It's Fira Sans, commissioned by mozilla,
free, available for a lot of languages, with variants from UltraLight to
UltraBold. In other words, what a project like
On Sun, 08 Feb 2015, Alban Crommer wrote:
>Ola!
>
>Vote: Why don't you guys install a poll plugin [1] on the w/systemd
>wiki ? Simple install, free and well known platform, reusable and
>meaningul users list.
>[1] [1]http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Category:Poll_extensions
not
On Sunday, February 08, 2015 12:00:01 PM dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote:
> From: Daniel Cegiełka
> To: bill.m.m...@gmail.com
> CC: Dng@lists.dyne.org
> Date: Today 04:01:42 AM
>
>
> "NOTE: I plan to finish development of LILO at 12/2015 because of some
> limitations (e.g. with BTFS, GPT,
2015-02-08 22:13 GMT+01:00 T.J. Duchene :
> On Sunday, February 08, 2015 12:00:01 PM dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org wrote:
>> From: Daniel Cegiełka
>> To: bill.m.m...@gmail.com
>> CC: Dng@lists.dyne.org
>> Date: Today 04:01:42 AM
>>
>
>>
>> "NOTE: I plan to finish development of LILO at 12/2015 be
I would vote for
http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/File:Negative_galaxy_banner.png
but I would change the direction of the spirals, now they are in the
opposite direction to text, creating some dissonance.
I think it's better to avoid any resemblance to debian logo, for
obvious reasons.
And
I'm not really a fan of any bootloaders but grub2 has always worked
which is more than i can say for other bootloaders.
-- Gravis
On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Daniel Cegiełka
wrote:
> 2015-02-08 22:13 GMT+01:00 T.J. Duchene :
>> On Sunday, February 08, 2015 12:00:01 PM dng-requ...@lists.dyne
On Sun, 8 Feb 2015 16:56:37 -0500
Gravis wrote:
> I'm not really a fan of any bootloaders but grub2 has always worked
> which is more than i can say for other bootloaders.
>
> -- Gravis
It certainly works if the package manager manages it, but I've found it
next to impossible to DIY Grub2 into
> And we should first vote for ideas, not implementations, so that in
> the second stage everyone could draw own version of the winning idea.
I agree, which is why the various uploaded logos should be considered
concepts rather than final products.
-- Gravis
On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 4:52 PM, P. T
> From my perspective, Grub2 is the systemd or bootloaders.
grub2 is well tested, does only one thing, has no interdependencies
and is easily removed/replaced. so tell me, how is it the "systemd of
boatloaders"?
--Gravis
On Sun, Feb 8, 2015 at 5:30 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sun, 8 Feb 2015 1
> I use linux even without partition... with Grub 2 :) In this thread
> you can note that the Grub 2 does not have too many fans. In my
> opinion, the best choice is extlinux... but we discuss the same topic
> in two threads.
>
Apologies. I get the list in digest format, and clearly missed that
On Sun, 8 Feb 2015 17:47:42 -0500
Gravis wrote:
> > From my perspective, Grub2 is the systemd or bootloaders.
>
> grub2 is well tested, does only one thing, has no interdependencies
> and is easily removed/replaced. so tell me, how is it the "systemd of
> boatloaders"?
>
> --Gravis
You spend
On Sun, 08 Feb 2015, Jude Nelson wrote:
>I'm interested in maintaining dbus,
that's good news!
>but I don't quite understand the
>proposed workflow for base packages.*
I'm doing my best to detail it here
https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-sdk/blob/master/README.md
the local Buil
> I withdraw my "systemd of bootloaders" comment
good because it doesn't fit the situation at all.
> You spend twenty minutes reviewing docs on which of the many files to
> put your modifications in and the commands to use, you do it just that
> way, and it doesn't work.
if it's not working the
On Sun, 08 Feb 2015, Gravis wrote:
> sure configuring it may be a mess but it works
I haven't looked deeply into it, but I also feel annoyed by the
overcomplication of grub2 compared to its predecessor.
now am I wrong to think that most of the cruft on its configuration is
added by the current w
> On February 8, 2015 at 8:06 PM Gravis wrote:
> > You spend twenty minutes reviewing docs on which of the many files to
> > put your modifications in and the commands to use, you do it just that
> > way, and it doesn't work.
>
> if it's not working then either documentation is flawed or you are
On Mon, 9 Feb 2015 01:45:43 +
Jaromil wrote:
> now am I wrong to think that most of the cruft on its configuration is
> added by the current way Debian handles it?
I'm on Gentoo. I am supposed to have grub 2 installed. But, I can
send information on how things are set up here. I do have a
On Sun, Feb 08, 2015 at 11:08:24AM +, Jaromil wrote:
> here the current thread on this
> https://git.devuan.org/devuan/devuan-project/issues/6
>
> Over the weekend I've assessed the first minimal group of packages,
> processed them via the new Devuan SDK and committed them on our
> packages-ba
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