Re: [Dng] libsysdev preview

2015-01-22 Thread Jude Nelson
I was looking through how FreeBSD handles the lack of udev while still supporting Mesa, and it seems they patched it to use their libdevq [1]. I wonder if there's some overlap with libsysdev here that can be put to use for us... -Jude [1] https://github.com/freebsd/libdevq On Tue, Jan 20, 2015

Re: [Dng] libsysdev preview

2015-01-22 Thread Steve Litt
Hi Jude, I thought you were making vdev to plug replace udev. By the way, when it's ready, I have several Epoch and runit experimental setups I'd like to use it on. Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance On T

Re: [Dng] libsysdev preview

2015-01-22 Thread Jude Nelson
Hi Steve, That's the plan :). However, one aspect of replacing udev with vdev is making a libudev compatibility library that will let us use exiting programs and libraries (like Mesa) without having to patch them. This libudev-compat will probably make use of libsysdev and possibly OS-specific l

Re: [Dng] libsysdev preview

2015-01-22 Thread Steve Litt
Cool Jude! As a member of the "minimum dependencies" crew, I just have to ask: Would libsysdev, libdevq et al already be installed on a native Systemd installation? It's important that vdev be easily installable, without too much dependency hell. Please tell me when vdev is ready for testing on s

Re: [Dng] libsysdev preview

2015-01-22 Thread Jude Nelson
Hi Steve, libdevq is FreeBSD-specific, and libsysdev would probably be the only libudev-compat dependency on Linux besides libc and friends. vdev is almost ready for some initial testing. It still needs some boilerplate code and an init script, but I plan on adding that next. My latest patches

Re: [Dng] libsysdev preview

2015-01-22 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 10:32:39AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > Cool Jude! > > As a member of the "minimum dependencies" crew, I just have to ask: > Would libsysdev, libdevq et al already be installed on a native Systemd > installation? It's important that vdev be easily installable, without > too m

Re: [Dng] Announcing libsysdev 0.1.0

2015-01-22 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 09:49:37PM -0500, Jude Nelson wrote: > Hey, this is cool! Looking forward to putting it to use in libudev-compat, > since it looks like I'll be needing a way to find a device file's sysfs > path. > Glad to hear that it will be useful. Is sysdev_devfd_to_syspath() or sysde

Re: [Dng] libsysdev preview

2015-01-22 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 09:27:21 -0800 Isaac Dunham wrote: > On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 10:32:39AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > > Cool Jude! > > > > As a member of the "minimum dependencies" crew, I just have to ask: > > Would libsysdev, libdevq et al already be installed on a native > > Systemd installa

Re: [Dng] Upgrade paths

2015-01-22 Thread Franco Lanza
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 11:05:04PM +, Noel Torres wrote: > I've been thinking around the upgrade paths we need to provide for Devuan 1 > "Jessie without systemd" (I'd still like ancient site names or computing > people names, so for me it is Devuan اَلْحَمْرَاء (put it on sources.list as > D

Re: [Dng] libsysdev preview

2015-01-22 Thread Aldemir Akpinar
On 22 January 2015 at 18:05, Jude Nelson wrote: > Hi Steve, > > > Many, many thanks Isaac & Jude. We have great new alternative to udev happening here. And the best thing is that, you guys are listening to your potential users! I think your code will make a great deal of difference in the linux

Re: [Dng] sugestion apulse as pulseaudio replcement

2015-01-22 Thread Sean Davis
I would love to see jack as a default or as an optional package with sane defaults. If pulse is really needed,it works as a jack client. I have to kill -9 pulse frequently as it leaks badly and won't die; jack only goes crazy when I misconfigure it. On Dec 25, 2014 9:15 PM, "Martinx - ジェームズ" wrote

Re: [Dng] TPM

2015-01-22 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Am Dienstag, 23. Dezember 2014 schrieb John Morris: > On Mon, 2014-12-22 at 17:23 -0600, T.J. Duchene wrote: > > > What can it do in the right? Nothing that can't be done without the TPM > > chip. One of the first things that you learn in computer engineering is > > that anything problem can be

[Dng] Consolekit2

2015-01-22 Thread Aaditya Bagga
Hi, I am not sure if you guys are aware or not, but Consolekit2 is the original endeavor of Eric Koegel I believe [1], yet I see no mention of his name on the Devuan December 22 newsletter [2] under the Research -> Consolekit heading. I am not affiliated to Consolekit2 in any way, just wante

Re: [Dng] vdev update and design document

2015-01-22 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Am Montag, 5. Januar 2015 schrieb Martijn Dekkers: > On 5 January 2015 at 07:47, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult < > enrico.weig...@gr13.net> wrote: > > > On 05.01.2015 00:40, Jude Nelson wrote: > > > > >> In VAX/VMS there was a feature that could in theory be useful, > > >> though I've never see

[Dng] Because the current networking stack isn't good enough, either

2015-01-22 Thread Martijn Dekkers
http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/01/14/2030259/systemd-gains-new-networking-features ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng