Re: [Dng] Hardened Devuan (was Re: Plan for Devuan to use Mozilla products as is)

2015-03-08 Thread Neo Futur
> I am not sure I follow - is the plan for Devuan to be default > hardened/grsec, or is it supposed to be an optional choice somehow? As was > already pointed out, java won't run. Lots and lots of server workloads run > Java nop, not as a default ( or I badly missed something ;) ) , just an a

Re: [Dng] Hardened Devuan

2015-03-07 Thread hellekin
On 03/06/15 20:27, Adam Borowski wrote: > > It looks like Knock breaks everything TCP SQN is used for. > *** You obviously didn't read the paper and are happily FUDing like it's Pearl Harbor. Knock only changes the Initial Sequence Number of the TCP packet, overriding the default MD5 hash used i

Re: [Dng] Hardened Devuan (was Re: Plan for Devuan to use Mozilla products as is)

2015-03-07 Thread miroslav . rovis1
On Fri, Mar 06, 2015 at 08:33:20PM +0100, Jaromil wrote: > > dear Miroslav, > > On Fri, 06 Mar 2015, miroslav.rov...@zg.ht.hr wrote: > > > I hope to be able to continue my Grsecurity/Pax Deployment in Devuan for > > the Newbies (or of a similar title), like I did in Debian Forums (see my > > fir

Re: [Dng] Hardened Devuan (was Re: Plan for Devuan to use Mozilla products as is)

2015-03-07 Thread Martijn Dekkers
I am not sure I follow - is the plan for Devuan to be default hardened/grsec, or is it supposed to be an optional choice somehow? As was already pointed out, java won't run. Lots and lots of server workloads run Java On 7 March 2015 at 12:42, Jaromil wrote: > > dear Neo Futur and other membe

Re: [Dng] Hardened Devuan (was Re: Plan for Devuan to use Mozilla products as is)

2015-03-07 Thread Jaromil
dear Neo Futur and other members of the Devuan hardening team: please consider the Alpha release series a minimal base you can use to start working on the kernel patches, building them and testing them. In fact, this release series is mostly intended to receive feedback from developers and adjust

Re: [Dng] Hardened Devuan (was Re: Plan for Devuan to use Mozilla products as is)

2015-03-06 Thread Neo Futur
also answering here to jaromil about a grsec question on another thread : On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Jaromil wrote: >> I hope to be able to continue my Grsecurity/Pax Deployment in Devuan for >> the Newbies (or of a similar title), like I did in Debian Forums (see my >> first message in th

Re: [Dng] Hardened Devuan (was Re: Plan for Devuan to use Mozilla products as is)

2015-03-06 Thread Neo Futur
at the beginning we plan : * to use only the pax options of the grsec kernel, no rbac enabled * to work on vanilla sources or gentoo hardened sources * no debian patches, no exotic patches * shipping the kernel with warnings that, as a default, java wont work with a secure kernel, and possibly any

Re: [Dng] Hardened Devuan (was Re: Plan for Devuan to use Mozilla products as is)

2015-03-06 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Mar 06, 2015 at 03:19:29PM -0300, hellekin wrote: > *** I'm so happy to see this group. I've been using this kernel lately, > running on Parabola: > > 3.14.34-gnu-201502271838-1-lts-grsec-knock > > GRSecurity, and Knock support. Knock is a kernel patch that enables > single packet por

Re: [Dng] Hardened Devuan (was Re: Plan for Devuan to use Mozilla products as is)

2015-03-06 Thread Jaromil
On Fri, 06 Mar 2015, hellekin wrote: > GRSecurity, and Knock support. Knock is a kernel patch that enables > single packet port knocking [0], thwarting common scanning attacks. I > would love to see this running on Devuan. Parabola GNU/Linux was the > first distro to deploy it, and I've been u