Re: [DNG] network-manager depends on libpam-systemd (Daniel Reurich)

2016-05-04 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 04/05/2016 10:30, Joel Roth a écrit : How do you like ceni? There isn't much detail in the man page. How does it deal with suspend? (With wicd-gtk I have to reconnect after wake-up.) I see there is a debian package available here: I have ceni installed on my Debian-wheezy. I just gave i

Re: [DNG] network-manager depends on libpam-systemd

2016-05-04 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 03/05/2016 20:03, Steve Litt a écrit : On Tue, 3 May 2016 11:53:33 +0200 Didier Kryn wrote: Yes, I know. All these front-ends use wpa_supplicant in their kitchen. I just wonder why they find it more clever to re-do on their own what wpa_supplicant can do alone. I think I can answer

Re: [DNG] network-manager depends on libpam-systemd (Daniel Reurich)

2016-05-04 Thread Joel Roth
emnin...@riseup.net wrote: > Also: Ceni is an excellent ncurses based tool to administrate network > connections (it's based on dhcpd and wpa_supplicant), more basic then > networkmanager and wicd ((who both, it think, there are not just > overlays but they use their own way to deal with the hardwa

Re: [DNG] network-manager depends on libpam-systemd (Daniel Reurich)

2016-05-03 Thread emninger
s.dyne.org" > Subject: Re: [DNG] network-manager depends on libpam-systemd > Message-ID: <5726a428.50...@centurion.net.nz> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On 02/05/16 12:01, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 07:56:09PM -0400,

Re: [DNG] network-manager depends on libpam-systemd

2016-05-03 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 3 May 2016 11:53:33 +0200 Didier Kryn wrote: > Yes, I know. All these front-ends use wpa_supplicant in their > kitchen. I just wonder why they find it more clever to re-do on their > own what wpa_supplicant can do alone. I think I can answer that. Wpa_supplicant has three front

Re: [DNG] network-manager depends on libpam-systemd

2016-05-03 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 03/05/2016 11:35, Daniel Reurich a écrit : On 03/05/16 20:56, Didier Kryn wrote: >Le 02/05/2016 03:41, Nate Bargmann a écrit : >>I know, I would probably be better off doing everything it does by >>hand. That said there is something very nice about opening the lid and >>by the time I enter

Re: [DNG] network-manager depends on libpam-systemd

2016-05-03 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 03/05/16 20:56, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 02/05/2016 03:41, Nate Bargmann a écrit : >> I know, I would probably be better off doing everything it does by >> hand. That said there is something very nice about opening the lid and >> by the time I enter my password to unlock Xscreensaver, NM has the

Re: [DNG] network-manager depends on libpam-systemd

2016-05-03 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 02/05/2016 03:41, Nate Bargmann a écrit : I know, I would probably be better off doing everything it does by hand. That said there is something very nice about opening the lid and by the time I enter my password to unlock Xscreensaver, NM has the network configured on my AP. FYI, this f

Re: [DNG] network-manager depends on libpam-systemd

2016-05-02 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 02/05/16 17:41, Dragan FOSS wrote: > On 05/01/2016 10:20 PM, Daniel Reurich wrote: >> I need this before migrating my wheezy >> workstation to Devuan Jessie. So it is urgently needed. > > > Network manager without systemd dependencies :) > http://mirror.org.rs/trios/mia/pool/main/n/ > But wh

Re: [DNG] network-manager depends on libpam-systemd

2016-05-01 Thread Dragan FOSS
On 05/01/2016 10:20 PM, Daniel Reurich wrote: I need this before migrating my wheezy workstation to Devuan Jessie. So it is urgently needed. Network manager without systemd dependencies :) http://mirror.org.rs/trios/mia/pool/main/n/ Cheers, Dragan

Re: [DNG] network-manager depends on libpam-systemd

2016-05-01 Thread Nate Bargmann
BTW, I've already read the other followups and you have a legitimate question, Hendrik. Here is my 2 cents and why I'm using NM. * On 2016 01 May 18:58 -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > I use wicd instead of Network Manager, in devan jessie. I don't know > if it will talk to your phone over USB, bu

Re: [DNG] network-manager depends on libpam-systemd

2016-05-01 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, May 02, 2016 at 12:49:44PM +1200, Daniel Reurich wrote: > On 02/05/16 12:01, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 07:56:09PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > >> On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 12:40:34PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > >>> Hi All. > >>> > >>> I've completed the upgrade to Devu

Re: [DNG] network-manager depends on libpam-systemd

2016-05-01 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 02/05/16 12:01, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 07:56:09PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 12:40:34PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: >>> Hi All. >>> >>> I've completed the upgrade to Devuan Jessie Beta over Debian Jessie on >>> both my laptop and desktop. Nice w

Re: [DNG] network-manager depends on libpam-systemd

2016-05-01 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 07:56:09PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 12:40:34PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > Hi All. > > > > I've completed the upgrade to Devuan Jessie Beta over Debian Jessie on > > both my laptop and desktop. Nice work! > > > > I use Network Manager on my

Re: [DNG] network-manager depends on libpam-systemd

2016-05-01 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sun, May 01, 2016 at 12:40:34PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > Hi All. > > I've completed the upgrade to Devuan Jessie Beta over Debian Jessie on > both my laptop and desktop. Nice work! > > I use Network Manager on my laptop. It is configured for the networks I > attach to most frequently an

Re: [DNG] network-manager depends on libpam-systemd

2016-05-01 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2016 01 May 15:23 -0500, Daniel Reurich wrote: > Yes it is on my personal todo list. It is the only way to have nicely > integrated vpn connection also. I need this before migrating my wheezy > workstation to Devuan Jessie. So it is urgently needed. Do let me know how I may help, Daniel.

Re: [DNG] network-manager depends on libpam-systemd

2016-05-01 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 02/05/16 05:40, Nate Bargmann wrote: > Hi All. > > I've completed the upgrade to Devuan Jessie Beta over Debian Jessie on > both my laptop and desktop. Nice work! > > I use Network Manager on my laptop. It is configured for the networks I > attach to most frequently and allows a seamless con