Re: [DNG] Sound (Was: My experience with Devuan Alpha2)

2015-07-05 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Sun, Jul 05, 2015 at 09:53:16PM +0630, Ста Деюс wrote: > Probably. Then, excuse me for the noise. But you may know how it > happens: you just see something that you would help with. -- Then you > have ether to reply or to walk by. -- Going to look for whole the > thread -- is extra task. So it r

Re: [DNG] Sound (Was: My experience with Devuan Alpha2)

2015-07-05 Thread Ста Деюс
Доброго времени суток, Gregory. Спасибо за ответ, Sat, 4 Jul 2015 15:50:54 -0700, вы писали: > I did actually, but in another thread which you might have missed. Probably. Then, excuse me for the noise. But you may know how it happens: you just see something that you would help with. -- Then you

Re: [DNG] Sound (Was: My experience with Devuan Alpha2)

2015-07-04 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Sat, Jul 04, 2015 at 07:58:44PM +0630, Ста Деюс wrote: > You just didn't mention your circumstances before ny > advice. I did actually, but in another thread which you might have missed. > > But i still do not understand the value of the reader from what i have > read in the gnome-orca packag

Re: [DNG] Sound (Was: My experience with Devuan Alpha2)

2015-07-04 Thread Ста Деюс
Доброго времени суток, Gregory. Спасибо за ответ, Fri, 3 Jul 2015 13:08:50 -0700, вы писали: > Believe me, I would if I could. However, unless I'm missing something, > this isn't as simple as you suggest: > > 1. As far as I know, gnome and xfce are the only two GUI environments > which have a sc

Re: [DNG] Sound (Was: My experience with Devuan Alpha2)

2015-07-03 Thread Ста Деюс
Доброго времени суток, Jonathan. Спасибо за ответ, Fri, 03 Jul 2015 18:43:18 -0400, вы писали: > Open Audacity and use the ALSA driver. > Now open IceWeasel or whichever browser you typically use. Bring > up an HTML5 video tutorial for Audacity from Youtube or another such > video streaming site

Re: [DNG] Sound (Was: My experience with Devuan Alpha2)

2015-07-03 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
On 07/03/2015 03:43 AM, Ста Деюс wrote: В Thu, 2 Jul 2015 11:47:55 +0100 Klaus Ethgen пишет: What will be the alternatives? ALSA never worked for me to a usefull state. It has partly translated config files but not in the parser, has always cracking sound and kernel panics. It lags the ability

Re: [DNG] Sound (Was: My experience with Devuan Alpha2)

2015-07-03 Thread Joel Roth
Klaus Ethgen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Am Do den 2. Jul 2015 um 18:40 schrieb Joel Roth: > > > For example the localizing problem. I use tu have a locale that has the > > > "," as decimal divider. Now, I have to write floating point values in > > > .asound wit

Re: [DNG] Sound (Was: My experience with Devuan Alpha2)

2015-07-03 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Fri, Jul 03, 2015 at 02:22:07PM +0630, Ста Деюс wrote: > I would give you an advice then: stand far from such overhelming > projects as «KDE» and «GNOME» are -- pick out of a bunch of > applications your own desktop. Believe me, I would if I could. However, unless I'm missing something, this is

Re: [DNG] Sound (Was: My experience with Devuan Alpha2)

2015-07-03 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 3 Jul 2015 10:13:27 +0100 Klaus Ethgen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Am Fr den 3. Jul 2015 um 8:52 schrieb ?? : > > I would give you an advice then: stand far from such overhelming > > projects as «KDE» and «GNOME» are -- pick out of a bunch

Re: [DNG] Sound (Was: My experience with Devuan Alpha2)

2015-07-03 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Am Fr den 3. Jul 2015 um 8:52 schrieb ?? : > I would give you an advice then: stand far from such overhelming > projects as «KDE» and «GNOME» are -- pick out of a bunch of > applications your own desktop. I am not Gregory, but This two

Re: [DNG] Sound (Was: My experience with Devuan Alpha2)

2015-07-03 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Am Do den 2. Jul 2015 um 18:40 schrieb Joel Roth: > > For example the localizing problem. I use tu have a locale that has the > > "," as decimal divider. Now, I have to write floating point values in > > .asound with a "," instead of a "." to get pa

Re: [DNG] Sound (Was: My experience with Devuan Alpha2)

2015-07-03 Thread Ста Деюс
Доброго времени суток, Gregory. Спасибо за ответ, Thu, 2 Jul 2015 13:21:15 -0700, вы писали: > There is more where that came from. The only reason I tolerate it is > because removing pulseaudio also removes gnome-core among others. I'm > all for choice, and believe that those who want pulse in de

Re: [DNG] Sound (Was: My experience with Devuan Alpha2)

2015-07-03 Thread Ста Деюс
В Thu, 2 Jul 2015 11:47:55 +0100 Klaus Ethgen пишет: > What will be the alternatives? ALSA never worked for me to a usefull > state. It has partly translated config files but not in the parser, > has always cracking sound and kernel panics. It lags the ability to > play multiple streams and more.

Re: [DNG] Sound (Was: My experience with Devuan Alpha2)

2015-07-02 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
On 07/02/2015 07:17 AM, Jaromil wrote: dear Klaus, On Thu, 02 Jul 2015, Klaus Ethgen wrote: So I am interested in the strategy, devuan will go here. 1st of all, here you can see some preliminary work I've done months ago to save certain packages, sanitize Debian configurations and recuperate

Re: [DNG] Sound (Was: My experience with Devuan Alpha2)

2015-07-02 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Thu, Jul 02, 2015 at 01:21:15PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > On Thu, Jul 02, 2015 at 11:47:55AM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > > What will be the alternatives? ALSA never worked for me to a usefull > > state. It has partly translated config files but not in the parser, has > > always cracking sou

Re: [DNG] Sound (Was: My experience with Devuan Alpha2)

2015-07-02 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Thu, Jul 02, 2015 at 11:47:55AM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > What will be the alternatives? ALSA never worked for me to a usefull > state. It has partly translated config files but not in the parser, has > always cracking sound and kernel panics. It lags the ability to play > multiple streams an

Re: [DNG] Sound (Was: My experience with Devuan Alpha2)

2015-07-02 Thread Joel Roth
Klaus Ethgen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > First, please answer on the list only and not via group reply. There is > no need to add my own address to the recipients. > > Am Do den 2. Jul 2015 um 12:37 schrieb Daniel Reurich: > > >What will be the alternatives? AL

Re: [DNG] Sound (Was: My experience with Devuan Alpha2)

2015-07-02 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 06:17:06 -0500 Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2015 02 Jul 05:49 -0500, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > > > What will be the alternatives? > > I have the same question. While I'm not cheerleader for PA, it works > for me on the desktop. However, due to ridding myself of most traces > of

Re: [DNG] Sound (Was: My experience with Devuan Alpha2)

2015-07-02 Thread Klaus Ethgen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 First, please answer on the list only and not via group reply. There is no need to add my own address to the recipients. Am Do den 2. Jul 2015 um 12:37 schrieb Daniel Reurich: > >What will be the alternatives? ALSA never worked for me to a usefull

Re: [DNG] Sound (Was: My experience with Devuan Alpha2)

2015-07-02 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 02/07/15 22:47, Klaus Ethgen wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, Am Do den 2. Jul 2015 um 8:55 schrieb Jaromil: We see Devuan as a system for professionals, not consumers, and that also includes audio/video professionals. Pulseaudio will likely be eliminated from a

Re: [DNG] Sound (Was: My experience with Devuan Alpha2)

2015-07-02 Thread Jaromil
dear Klaus, On Thu, 02 Jul 2015, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > So I am interested in the strategy, devuan will go here. 1st of all, here you can see some preliminary work I've done months ago to save certain packages, sanitize Debian configurations and recuperate the FFMpeg binary https://git.devuan.or

Re: [DNG] Sound (Was: My experience with Devuan Alpha2)

2015-07-02 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2015 02 Jul 05:49 -0500, Klaus Ethgen wrote: > What will be the alternatives? I have the same question. While I'm not cheerleader for PA, it works for me on the desktop. However, due to ridding myself of most traces of freedesktop.org packages on my main desktop computer running Debian Jes