Re: [DNG] Evince

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 02:03:26PM +0200, emnin...@riseup.net wrote: > I do not find the msg, but someone here suggested to use xpdf, possibly > with a more esthetic skin. > > I for one, would love that, since i find xpdf really very functional > and with acceptable print options too. I used xpd

Re: [DNG] Evince

W dniu 26.05.2016 o 14:03, emnin...@riseup.net pisze: > > I for one, would love that, since i find xpdf really very functional > and with acceptable print options too. I don't like scrolbar, button and menu graphics in xpdf. Is it changeable? Paweł signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [DNG] Evince

I do not find the msg, but someone here suggested to use xpdf, possibly with a more esthetic skin. I for one, would love that, since i find xpdf really very functional and with acceptable print options too. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https:

Re: [DNG] Evince

Adam Borowski escribió: [...] Evince is evil and insane. #721783 is one of many regressions. You want atril for a fork of evince from before its upstream went completely bonkers. It's still gnomey but to a far more acceptable degree. I installed okular (and its dependences) and it works perf

Re: [DNG] Evince

Didier Kryn writes: > Le 24/05/2016 12:50, Jaromil a écrit : > > >>Emacs is a somewhat old-fashioned/ traditional[*] Lisp implemenation > >[*] It doesn't support lexical scoping. > > >>> > >>> >No idea what that means. I like emacs for text editing and don't use it >>> >for anything

Re: [DNG] Evince

Hi all, El 25/05/16 a las 10:50, Daniel Reurich escribió: Hi, Sorry for hooking back an earlier part of this thread, but I turned back to xpdf a while back as it was the only pdf viewer that I found produces consistently good and correct rendering results. It can print too. The biggest proble

Re: [DNG] Evince

Le 24/05/2016 12:50, Jaromil a écrit : > >>Emacs is a somewhat old-fashioned/ traditional[*] Lisp implemenation > >[*] It doesn't support lexical scoping. > > > >No idea what that means. I like emacs for text editing and don't use it >for anything else. in brief it means that is impossible to

Re: [DNG] Evince

Hi, Sorry for hooking back an earlier part of this thread, but I turned back to xpdf a while back as it was the only pdf viewer that I found produces consistently good and correct rendering results. It can print too. The biggest problem is it is way too ugly. If we could wrap a nicer interface aro

Re: [DNG] Evince

El 24/05/16 a las 16:12, Rainer Weikusat escribió: It means that any binding of some symbol is globally visible during the dynamic lifetime of the scope which established it instead of being restricted to code which is lexically contained in this scope. Contrived example for that: ; function

Re: [DNG] Evince

On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 02:47:04PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > Didier Kryn writes: > > Le 23/05/2016 23:29, Rainer Weikusat a écrit : > >> Rainer Weikusat writes: > >> > >> [...] > >> > >>> Emacs is a somewhat old-fashioned/ traditional[*] Lisp implemenation > >> [*] It doesn't support lexica

Re: [DNG] Evince

Jaromil writes: [...] > maybe its all relative and we are > all fanatics in the eyes of Vim users :^))) Confused people having confused opinions ... [rw@doppelsaurus]~#dpkg -l | grep 'ii *[^ ]*vim\? ' ii nvi 1.81.6-8.2 amd644.

Re: [DNG] Evince

Didier Kryn writes: > Le 23/05/2016 23:29, Rainer Weikusat a écrit : >> Rainer Weikusat writes: >> >> [...] >> >>> Emacs is a somewhat old-fashioned/ traditional[*] Lisp implemenation >> [*] It doesn't support lexical scoping. >> > > No idea what that means. It means that any binding of some

Re: [DNG] Evince

.. On 2016-05-24 12:50, Jaromil wrote: > ... > I agree with Robert the multi-lang support is very important and very > well implemented in Emacs. Since many years all my work depends from > Emacs. I've had the chance to offer a dinner to RMS for my gratitude > for Emacs and I'll do that with an

Re: [DNG] Evince

On Tue, 24 May 2016, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 23/05/2016 23:29, Rainer Weikusat a écrit : > >Rainer Weikusat writes: > > > >[...] > > > >>Emacs is a somewhat old-fashioned/ traditional[*] Lisp implemenation > >[*] It doesn't support lexical scoping. > > > > No idea what that means. I like emacs f

Re: [DNG] Evince

Le 23/05/2016 23:29, Rainer Weikusat a écrit : Rainer Weikusat writes: [...] Emacs is a somewhat old-fashioned/ traditional[*] Lisp implemenation [*] It doesn't support lexical scoping. No idea what that means. I like emacs for text editing and don't use it for anything else. _

Re: [DNG] Evince

On Tue, 24 May 2016 08:44:52 +0200, Jaromil wrote: > On Mon, 23 May 2016, Irrwahn wrote: >> On Mon, 23 May 2016 21:16:51 +0200, Jaromil wrote: [Proposal of a Wiki page providing recommendations for Devuan endorsed default software ...] > A good start could be to draft this for the default > des

Re: [DNG] Evince

On Mon, 23 May 2016, Irrwahn wrote: > On Mon, 23 May 2016 21:16:51 +0200, Jaromil wrote: > [...] > > on another note I wonder if all this knowledge put forward here, > > for example on this thread on what is good for the PDF viewer > > functionality, can be gathered into a sort of wiki document.

Re: [DNG] Evince

On Mon, 23 May 2016, Irrwahn wrote: > On Mon, 23 May 2016 23:16:48 +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > > Le 23/05/2016 19:49, Jaromil a écrit : > >> I have no use for a PDF > >> viewer that can't print. Else I'd just use Emacs for that too ;^) > >> ___ > > > >

Re: [DNG] Evince

On Mon, 23 May 2016, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 23/05/2016 19:49, Jaromil a écrit : > >I have no use for a PDF > >viewer that can't print. Else I'd just use Emacs for that too ;^) > >___ > > Indeed it does! I didn't even thought to try that. Looks like

Re: [DNG] Evince

On Mon, 23 May 2016, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 10:29:30PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > > Rainer Weikusat writes: > > > > [...] > > > > > Emacs is a somewhat old-fashioned/ traditional[*] Lisp implemenation > > > > [*] It doesn't support lexical scoping. > > That's what'

Re: [DNG] Evince

On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 10:29:30PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > Rainer Weikusat writes: > > [...] > > > Emacs is a somewhat old-fashioned/ traditional[*] Lisp implemenation > > [*] It doesn't support lexical scoping. That's what's old-fashioned about it. And there's some work on changing

Re: [DNG] Evince

I'd love to install Atril, but after an "apt-get update" and "apt-get dist-upgrade" it's no longer in the repositories for AntiX. I'm not sure why that is. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Evince

On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 01:35:27PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 23 May 2016 08:59:15 -0400 > Haines Brown wrote: > > > > In light of the discussion here, what is the difference between > > automatic installation and being default? If qpdfview is default, why > > do folks nevertheless turn

Re: [DNG] Evince

Rainer Weikusat writes: [...] > Emacs is a somewhat old-fashioned/ traditional[*] Lisp implemenation [*] It doesn't support lexical scoping. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Evince

On Mon, 23 May 2016 23:16:48 +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 23/05/2016 19:49, Jaromil a écrit : >> I have no use for a PDF >> viewer that can't print. Else I'd just use Emacs for that too ;^) >> ___ > > Indeed it does! I didn't even thought to try t

Re: [DNG] Evince

Didier Kryn writes: > Le 23/05/2016 19:49, Jaromil a écrit : >> I have no use for a PDF >> viewer that can't print. Else I'd just use Emacs for that too ;^) >> ___ > > Indeed it does! I didn't even thought to try that. Looks like one > of these usele

Re: [DNG] Evince

Le 23/05/2016 19:49, Jaromil a écrit : I have no use for a PDF viewer that can't print. Else I'd just use Emacs for that too ;^) ___ Indeed it does! I didn't even thought to try that. Looks like one of these useless features in Emacs, given the n

Re: [DNG] Evince

On Mon, 23 May 2016 22:11:04 +0200, Paweł Cholewiński wrote: > W dniu 23.05.2016 o 08:50, Adam Borowski pisze: >> Evince is evil and insane. #721783 is one of many regressions. You want >> atril for a fork of evince from before its upstream went completely bonkers. >> It's still gnomey but to a

Re: [DNG] Evince

W dniu 23.05.2016 o 20:00, Irrwahn pisze: > (Another example would be EOM, which is a simple and very > fast image viewer, clone of EOG.) Good to know :-) Regards Paweł signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@l

Re: [DNG] Evince

W dniu 23.05.2016 o 08:50, Adam Borowski pisze: > Evince is evil and insane. #721783 is one of many regressions. You want > atril for a fork of evince from before its upstream went completely bonkers. > It's still gnomey but to a far more acceptable degree. I like evince on Debian Wheezy. I wou

Re: [DNG] Evince

On Mon, 23 May 2016 21:16:51 +0200, Jaromil wrote: [...] > on another note I wonder if all this knowledge put forward here, for > example on this thread on what is good for the PDF viewer > functionality, can be gathered into a sort of wiki document. IT would > be useful to have a menu structure t

Re: [DNG] Evince

On Mon, 23 May 2016, Irrwahn wrote: > You're welcome, but I guess we both should thank the fine > guys running the MATE project. They are the ones keeping > the GNOME2 tools alive you are right here. There are a lot of developers out there who are so deep into development work that is hardly vi

Re: [DNG] Evince

On Mon, 23 May 2016 20:49:24 +0200, Emninger wrote: > Am Mon, 23 May 2016 18:11:51 + > schrieb Irrwahn : > >> (Another example would be EOM, which is a simple and very >> fast image viewer, clone of EOG.) > > Offtopic, but: Why not viewnior? It's fast, small and very efficient (i > knew it f

Re: [DNG] Evince

Am Mon, 23 May 2016 18:11:51 + schrieb Irrwahn : > (Another example would be EOM, which is a simple and very > fast image viewer, clone of EOG.) Offtopic, but: Why not viewnior? It's fast, small and very efficient (i knew it from crunchbang which for sure was not that bad as distro). ___

Re: [DNG] Evince

On Mon, 23 May 2016 13:23:20 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 23 May 2016 08:58:53 +0200 > Irrwahn wrote: [...] >> BTW: Everyone who liked Evince, as it was in the GNOME 2 >> days might want to have a look at Atril, a fork of Evince. [...] > Based on your recommendation, I just installed Atril

Re: [DNG] Evince

On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 07:49:13PM +0200, Jaromil wrote: > On Mon, 23 May 2016, Steve Litt wrote: > > > But Evince had one thing mupdf doesn't: A print function. A lot of > > times a PDF that won't print right just by saying lpr -P myprinter > > mypdf.pdf will print just fine if printed from Evinc

Re: [DNG] Evince

On Mon, 23 May 2016, Steve Litt wrote: > But Evince had one thing mupdf doesn't: A print function. A lot of > times a PDF that won't print right just by saying lpr -P myprinter > mypdf.pdf will print just fine if printed from Evince. yep, that kept me stuck with evince all this time and until now

Re: [DNG] Evince

On Mon, 23 May 2016 08:59:15 -0400 Haines Brown wrote: > In light of the discussion here, what is the difference between > automatic installation and being default? If qpdfview is default, why > do folks nevertheless turn to atril? Ability to print. SteveT Steve Litt May 2016 featured book

Re: [DNG] Evince

On Mon, 23 May 2016 08:58:53 +0200 Irrwahn wrote: > On Mon, 23 May 2016 07:45:40 +0200, Emninger wrote: > > Hi. > > > > I do not know if it is intended to do such trivial suggestions > > but ... ;) > > > > Being on my way to adapt my (jwm/fluxbox) setup to what i had > > before on slackware, i

Re: [DNG] Evince

On Mon, 23 May 2016 08:50:15 +0200 Adam Borowski wrote: > Evince is evil and insane. #721783 is one of many regressions. You > want atril for a fork of evince from before its upstream went > completely bonkers. It's still gnomey but to a far more acceptable > degree. Thanks for the hint. I use

Re: [DNG] Evince

I don't want divert the thread, but would like to widen it a bit. I have been using xpdf for viewing/printing PDF files, but it increasingly fails to print some PDFs, and so I look for alternatives. Appealing of MuPDF because of its simplicity and the quality of its display, but it lacks printing

Re: [DNG] Evince

On Mon, 23 May 2016, Adam Borowski wrote: > Evince is evil and insane. #721783 is one of many regressions. You want > atril for a fork of evince from before its upstream went completely bonkers. > It's still gnomey but to a far more acceptable degree. ah! thanks for this! *finally* I got rid o

Re: [DNG] Evince

On Mon, 23 May 2016 14:07:52 +0200, Emninger wrote: > Am Mon, 23 May 2016 10:37:45 + > schrieb Irrwahn : > > [ . . . ] > >> There is no such thing as a default PDF viewer for Devuan. > > Ok, i said it in the wrong way: Installing Devuan + LXDE desktop brings > Evince ... My idea was simply,

Re: [DNG] Evince

Am Mon, 23 May 2016 10:37:45 + schrieb Irrwahn : [ . . . ] > There is no such thing as a default PDF viewer for Devuan. Ok, i said it in the wrong way: Installing Devuan + LXDE desktop brings Evince ... My idea was simply, that's not really coherent with the idea of Devuan. Moreover, removin

Re: [DNG] Evince

On Mon, 23 May 2016 07:45:40 +0200, Emninger wrote: > Hi. > > I do not know if it is intended to do such trivial suggestions > but ... ;) > > Being on my way to adapt my (jwm/fluxbox) setup to what i had before on > slackware, i stumbled into this: Devuan comes with evince by default. There is n

Re: [DNG] Evince

On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 07:45:40AM +0200, emnin...@riseup.net wrote: > Being on my way to adapt my (jwm/fluxbox) setup to what i had before on > slackware, i stumbled into this: Devuan comes with evince by default. > Now, i installed epdfviewer which says in its description: > > "Lightweight pdf v

Re: [DNG] Evince, gimp and okular in devuan

Riccardo, Yes, i have enabled debian security updates. I downloaded the sources of cups and changed: libcups2 (= ${binary:Version}) by: libcups2 (= ${source:Version}) in debian/control. Thanks, Aitor. El 13/08/15 a las 19:38, Riccardo Boninsegna escribió: > > Il 13/ago/2015 07:04 PM, "

Re: [DNG] Evince, gimp and okular in devuan

Il 13/ago/2015 07:04 PM, "aitor_czr" ha scritto: > > I don't know, i'm in devuan jessie :) Looks like you don't have the Debian Security repos enabled (deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie-updates main #contrib non-free), which at the moment don't have a Devuan equivalent for all I know Yes, t

Re: [DNG] Evince, gimp and okular in devuan

I don't know, i'm in devuan jessie :) El 13/08/15 a las 19:01, Riccardo Boninsegna escribió: > > Il 13/ago/2015 06:55 PM, "aitor_czr" > ha scritto: > > libcupsimage2 : Depende: libcups2 (= 1.7.5-11) pero 1.7.5-11+deb8u1 > va a ser instalado > > Does Debian have the s

Re: [DNG] Evince, gimp and okular in devuan

Il 13/ago/2015 06:55 PM, "aitor_czr" ha scritto: > libcupsimage2 : Depende: libcups2 (= 1.7.5-11) pero 1.7.5-11+deb8u1 va a ser instalado Does Debian have the same problem? Last time I used my computer about a week ago I fully updated Devuan Ascii with no issue, but the version numbers suggest th