Re: [DNG] Debian blocks latest Intel microcode update

2018-08-23 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 08/22/2018 05:32 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Don Wright - 22.08.18, 21:56: >> El Reg has [1]published a disagreement between a Debian maintainer and >> Intel over changes to license terms in the latest CPU microcode >> updates. The added terms (see comments) appear to attach liability to >>

Re: [DNG] Debian blocks latest Intel microcode update

2018-08-23 Thread Bruce Perens
They fixed it. New license text: *https://01.org/mcu-path-license-2018 * On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 8:44 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 09:31:01 +0200 > Jaromil wrote: > > > To start with, our Devuan project has always prioritised ARM support, > >

Re: [DNG] Debian blocks latest Intel microcode update

2018-08-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 09:31:01 +0200 Jaromil wrote: > To start with, our Devuan project has always prioritised ARM support, My understanding is that an ARM based computer is much more likely to have mandatory secure-boot. My understanding is you can't run Devuan on secure-boot without one of those

Re: [DNG] Debian blocks latest Intel microcode update

2018-08-23 Thread Jaromil
On Thu, 23 Aug 2018, KatolaZ wrote: > On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 09:31:01AM +0200, Jaromil wrote: > > My wish is that strong industrial players like ARM understand how > > valuable could be to ally with us and a few others in the open source > > world. > > > > I agree with most of the arguments, bu

Re: [DNG] Debian blocks latest Intel microcode update

2018-08-23 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 09:31:01AM +0200, Jaromil wrote: [cut] > Me and many other Devuan developers agree with the good reasoning. I > also share Martin's optimism on what we can do. > > To start with, our Devuan project has always prioritised ARM support, > something visible from the many spec

Re: [DNG] Debian blocks latest Intel microcode update

2018-08-23 Thread Jaromil
On Thu, 23 Aug 2018, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Antony Stone - 23.08.18, 00:04: > > On Wednesday 22 August 2018 at 23:32:28, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > > Don Wright - 22.08.18, 21:56: > > > > El Reg has [1]published a disagreement between a Debian maintainer > > > > and Intel over changes to l

Re: [DNG] Debian blocks latest Intel microcode update

2018-08-22 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Antony Stone - 23.08.18, 00:04: > On Wednesday 22 August 2018 at 23:32:28, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > Don Wright - 22.08.18, 21:56: > > > El Reg has [1]published a disagreement between a Debian maintainer > > > and Intel over changes to license terms in the latest CPU > > > microcode updates. Th

Re: [DNG] Debian blocks latest Intel microcode update

2018-08-22 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Don Wright (wm...@dslextreme.com): > El Reg has [1]published a disagreement between a Debian maintainer and Intel > over changes to license terms in the latest CPU microcode updates. The added > terms (see comments) appear to attach liability to both Debian and mirror > sites if the end us

Re: [DNG] Debian blocks latest Intel microcode update

2018-08-22 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 22 August 2018 at 23:32:28, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Don Wright - 22.08.18, 21:56: > > El Reg has [1]published a disagreement between a Debian maintainer and > > Intel over changes to license terms in the latest CPU microcode > > updates. The added terms (see comments) appear to at

Re: [DNG] Debian blocks latest Intel microcode update

2018-08-22 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Don Wright - 22.08.18, 21:56: > El Reg has [1]published a disagreement between a Debian maintainer and > Intel over changes to license terms in the latest CPU microcode > updates. The added terms (see comments) appear to attach liability to > both Debian and mirror sites if the end user violates ce