On 2015-08-20 18:09, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
Martinx - ジェームズ writes:
I just saw this "Ubuntu Snappy" news today...
And immediately I remembered about this thread...
"Build system smart / Packaging dumb"
http://blog.liw.fi/posts/debian-developing-it-wrong/
Do we talked about this:
www.ubunt
Martinx - ジェームズ writes:
> I just saw this "Ubuntu Snappy" news today...
>
> And immediately I remembered about this thread...
>
> "Build system smart / Packaging dumb"
>
> http://blog.liw.fi/posts/debian-developing-it-wrong/
>
> Do we talked about this:
>
> www.ubuntu.com/snappy
>
> https://devel
I just saw this "Ubuntu Snappy" news today...
And immediately I remembered about this thread...
"Build system smart / Packaging dumb"
http://blog.liw.fi/posts/debian-developing-it-wrong/
Do we talked about this:
www.ubuntu.com/snappy
https://developer.ubuntu.com/en/snappy/tutorials/build-snap
On 01/01/15 15:37, t.j.duch...@gmail.com wrote:
I just wanted to post this for consideration. I’m not looking to
rehash old posts, but Devuan is at the moment finding its legs. I feel
that this is a valid concern that may arise in Devuan’s future. I
think it should be discussed openly.
http
I just wanted to post this for consideration. I’m not looking to rehash old
posts, but Devuan is at the moment finding its legs. I feel that this is a
valid concern that may arise in Devuan’s future. I think it should be
discussed openly.
http://threatpost.com/debian-announces-end-of-secur
On 30.12.2014 18:18, frank ernest wrote:
> https://www.mail-archive.com/dng%40lists.dyne.org/msg00051.html
>
> And later messages suggested to me that this was the case.
> Perhaps I misunderstood.
I was talking about forking dpkg/apt in case they would
introduce any dependency on systemd (which
From: frank ernest
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 11:18 AM
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
https://www.mail-archive.com/dng%40lists.dyne.org/msg00051.html
>And later messages suggested to me that this was the case.
>Perhaps I misunderstood.
Maybe there is. I’m hardly a source of
>> I've been reading about how there's a new packaging
>> system planned, might I inquire about the ideas/goals
>> behind it?
>>
>
> Not that I've seen. Although I have certainly made a few discussions on
> the topic. As far as I know, the present plan is to stay with Apt for at
> least the first r
On Mon, Dec 29, 2014 at 3:12 PM, frank ernest wrote:
> I've been reading about how there's a new packaging
> system planned, might I inquire about the ideas/goals
> behind it?
>
Not that I've seen. Although I have certainly made a few discussions on
the topic. As far as I know, the present pla
I've been reading about how there's a new packaging
system planned, might I inquire about the ideas/goals
behind it?
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On 24 December 2014 at 12:16, Alex 'AdUser' Z wrote:
> I was late to the main discussion, but i want show you intresting
> thoughts from one of the oldest DD:
> http://blog.liw.fi/posts/debian-developing-it-wrong/
>
> Some items (deb-internals related) very hard to implement without
> partly/compl
Thanks Alex! That is _exactly_ some of what I was grousing about.
On 12/24/2014 8:16 AM, Alex 'AdUser' Z wrote:
I was late to the main discussion, but i want show you intresting
thoughts from one of the oldest DD:
http://blog.liw.fi/posts/debian-developing-it-wrong/
Some items (deb-internals
I was late to the main discussion, but i want show you intresting
thoughts from one of the oldest DD:
http://blog.liw.fi/posts/debian-developing-it-wrong/
Some items (deb-internals related) very hard to implement without
partly/complete loss of compatibility.
* smart build tools
* debian/rules cl
On 12/23/2014 10:56 AM, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote:
On 15.12.2014 17:15, Francesco Il Parente wrote:
of course but the apt and dpkg depencies on systemd, you want fork it ?
Yes, of course. I'll do it personally, all on my own, if necessary.
I might be interested in lending a ha
On 15.12.2014 17:15, Francesco Il Parente wrote:
> of course but the apt and dpkg depencies on systemd, you want fork it ?
Yes, of course. I'll do it personally, all on my own, if necessary.
cu
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On Mon, 22 Dec 2014, T.J. Duchene wrote:
While in these two cases, it isn't necessarily TPM, people using
devices accept this control ideology blithely today with Apple iOS
and Windows RT. Frankly, it turns my stomach.
I suppose I should be a little more fair. I'm not sure about Apple, as
On Mon, 22 Dec 2014, T.J. Duchene wrote:
> An example of TPM gone bad would be the fact that you can structure
> a computer system around TPM so that only the manufacturer, rather
> than the actual owner of the device decides what software you can
> use and how.
>
> While in these two cases, it i
On 12/22/2014 12:05 PM, Joe Awni wrote:
>Yep, also Poettering is a big fan and supporter of TPM, and stated on a
>recent podcast (that was linked in this list I think) something along the
>lines of "Once we all run systemd, TPM will finally work properly."
TPM of
>course is the continuation of
If I might add my two cents on the whole issue of Lennart, systemd and
package systems? While I do not believe in character assassination, I
do critique. Please do not bother reading if you want short answers or
polite remarks.
On Lennart:
Who cares what Lennart Poettering thinks? For that
>Yep, also Poettering is a big fan and supporter of TPM, and stated on a
>recent podcast (that was linked in this list I think) something along the
>lines of "Once we all run systemd, TPM will finally work properly." TPM of
>course is the continuation of the Clipper Chip, but dolled up to get the
>
Yep, also Poettering is a big fan and supporter of TPM, and stated on a
recent podcast (that was linked in this list I think) something along the
lines of "Once we all run systemd, TPM will finally work properly." TPM of
course is the continuation of the Clipper Chip, but dolled up to get the
hard
btw. very good summary of systemd:
http://openwall.com/lists/owl-users/2014/12/21/2
Daniel
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Am 2014-12-22 um 12:07 schrieb Daniel Cegiełka:
> 2014-12-22 12:01 GMT+01:00 Klaus Ethgen :
>> So believe me, they will find a "reason" for adding systemd dependency
>> to apt or aptitude.
I doubt that.
> yup.
>
> http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html
That
2014-12-22 12:01 GMT+01:00 Klaus Ethgen :
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> Am Mo den 15. Dez 2014 um 17:23 schrieb Christoph Lechleitner:
>> Am 2014-12-15 um 17:15 schrieb Francesco Il Parente:
>> >
>> >> Devuan will use apt/dpkg as debian does.
>> >
>> > of course bu
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Am Mo den 15. Dez 2014 um 17:23 schrieb Christoph Lechleitner:
> Am 2014-12-15 um 17:15 schrieb Francesco Il Parente:
> >
> >> Devuan will use apt/dpkg as debian does.
> >
> > of course but the apt and dpkg depencies on systemd,
>
> Neither
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