On Wed 25 March 2015 22:26:02 KatolaZ wrote:
> PID1 *cannot* segfault, or we
> are just back to the dark days of BSODs. Fullstop.
Funny enough my system continued to sprt of work, just creating a bazillion of
zombie processes - among them 2 of systemd, iirc systemd-logind and session-
foo - and a
>
> If something goes wrong somewhere and X11 segfaults (which I think does
> not happen more than once in a few decades, at least with the stable
version
> of Xorg), then we might complain and make a fuss, but in the end is not
that
> big deal. Having systemd as PID 1 segfaulting is a completely
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 04:31:47PM -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote:
> KatolaZ,
>
>
> [T.J. ] What I said was: " It should be important to note that a segfault
> can be caused by any number of things, that can be unrelated to systemd
> itself. I do grant you that systemd has its share of undesirables
Defaults are not necessarily caused by glibc itself
Defaults = Segfaults. Don't you just hate autocorrect?
T.J.
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KatolaZ,
[T.J. ] What I said was: " It should be important to note that a segfault
can be caused by any number of things, that can be unrelated to systemd
itself. I do grant you that systemd has its share of undesirables, but it
could be exposing a flaw in the lower libraries as well. A lot
>
> Are you for real?
>
[T.J. ] Just to clear things up.
> If so:
>
> 1) Drepper maintained glibc, not gcc. These are two separate projects.
True. I always treat GCC and glibc as somewhat synonymous since they go
hand in hand. You can't have one without the other for all intent
Le 25/03/2015 18:04, Jude Nelson a écrit :
> 3) I don't think this is a great place for unsubstantiated attacks
on Ulrich Drepper or on Ulrich Drepper's leadership of glibc.
Ulrich Drepper's bad attitude is cited as one of the main reasons
Debian switched from glibc to eglibc. Source: http:/
> 3) I don't think this is a great place for unsubstantiated attacks on
Ulrich Drepper or on Ulrich Drepper's leadership of glibc.
Ulrich Drepper's bad attitude is cited as one of the main reasons Debian
switched from glibc to eglibc. Source: http://blog.aurel32.net/47.
-Jude
On Wed, Mar 25, 20
On Wed, 25 Mar 2015, T.J. Duchene wrote:
For some, it does have to do with the GPL, but for many it has to do
with the fact that GCC is a mess. One of the previous maintainers,
Ulrich Drepper, was famous for ignoring bug reports.
Are you for real?
If so:
1) Drepper maintained glibc, not gcc
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 11:30:05AM -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote:
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>
> [T.J. ] It should be important to note that a segfault can be caused by any
> number of things, that can be unrelated to systemd itself. I do grant you
> that systemd has its share of undesirables, but it could be exposing
> -Original Message-
> From: Joerg Reisenweber [mailto:reisenwe...@web.de]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2015 10:33 PM
> To: dng@lists.dyne.org
> Subject: Re: [Dng] [dng] vdev status update and milestone
>
> On Tue 24 March 2015 22:17:20 Steve Litt wrote:
> > Thi
On Tue 24 March 2015 22:17:20 Steve Litt wrote:
> This systemd debacle increased by an order of
> magnitude the Linux users who understand the underpinnings of the
> system and are prepared to take control.
Indeed. I never really bothered much, and happily lived along with (Open)Suse
since... it
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 22:21:30 -0400
Clarke Sideroad wrote:
> As history marks the rise and fall of systemd, contributions such as
> yours will make the the bigger picture of this time period net
> positive.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Clarke
That's so true, Clarke! This systemd debacle increased by an
As history marks the rise and fall of systemd, contributions such as
yours will make the the bigger picture of this time period net positive.
Thank you,
Clarke
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On Tue, 24 Mar 2015 05:37:04 -0400
Jude Nelson wrote:
> Hey everyone,
>
> I'm pleased to announce that vdev can successfully boot to a console
> on the Devuan vagrant image! It creates all requisite device files
> and loads all requisite kernel drivers, both for the pre-boot
> initramfs environ
On 24/03/15 10:37, Jude Nelson wrote:
Hey everyone,
I'm pleased to announce that vdev can successfully boot to a console
on the Devuan vagrant image! It creates all requisite device files
and loads all requisite kernel drivers, both for the pre-boot
initramfs environment (so init can mount r
> looking at Debian bug 735275
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=735275
>
> and the wide impact it has on upstream (nodejs, webkit, chrome etc. are
> affected by the bump to libudev.1) I'd rather keep libudev.0 around as
> a vdev patched version, would that be possible?
Thanks fo
Hi Jaromil,
> outstanding good news! congrats :^) if we manage to include vdev in
> Devuan for upcoming releases you may acquire rather wide testing grounds
> for your software.
Thanks for the encouragement :) When it comes to packaging vdev, what I'll
do is add an /etc/alternatives entry for th
moreover on libudev
looking at Debian bug 735275
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=735275
and the wide impact it has on upstream (nodejs, webkit, chrome etc. are
affected by the bump to libudev.1) I'd rather keep libudev.0 around as
a vdev patched version, would that be possible?
On Tue, 24 Mar 2015, Jude Nelson wrote:
>I'm pleased to announce that vdev can successfully boot to a
>console on the Devuan vagrant image!* It creates all requisite
>device files and loads all requisite kernel drivers, both for the
>pre-boot initramfs environment (so init can moun
On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 05:37:04AM -0400, Jude Nelson wrote:
> Hey everyone,
>
> I'm pleased to announce that vdev can successfully boot to a console on the
> Devuan vagrant image! It creates all requisite device files and loads all
> requisite kernel drivers, both for the pre-boot initramfs envi
Jude Nelson wrote:
> Hey everyone,
>
> I'm pleased to announce that vdev can successfully boot to a console on the
> Devuan vagrant image! It creates all requisite device files and loads all
> requisite kernel drivers, both for the pre-boot initramfs environment (so
> init can mount root) and in
HOORAY! & KUDOS!
can't wait giving it a try
/j
On Tue 24 March 2015 05:37:04 Jude Nelson wrote:
> Hey everyone,
>
> I'm pleased to announce that vdev can successfully boot to a console on the
> Devuan vagrant image!
[...]
> -Jude
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