On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 14:33:17 +0100
Didier Kryn wrote:
> Actually it takes more effort to *every* reader to read it
> than it would take to the *single* writer to bottom-post.
The preceding is the crux of the situation.
SteveT
Steve Litt
November 2015 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques
On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 14:33:17 +0100
Didier Kryn wrote:
> Actually it takes more effort to *every* reader to read it
> than it would take to the *single* writer to bottom-post.
The preceding is the crux of the situation.
SteveT
Steve Litt
November 2015 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 12:00:35PM +, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote:
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>
> >Hence top-post, should be replaced by no citation at all. And
> >when citation is usefull, please use bottom-post.
>
> I do. And I think Katolaz is disingenious and intellecually lazy in
> his arguments against top
Le 14/12/2015 13:00, Arnt Gulbrandsen a écrit :
Didier Kryn writes:
Le 13/12/2015 19:26, Arnt Gulbrandsen a écrit :
2) that people generally remember what a thread is about when based
on the subject
Arnt, let's be consistent. You assume the author doesn't expect
the reader to need the ci
Didier Kryn writes:
Le 13/12/2015 19:26, Arnt Gulbrandsen a écrit :
2) that people generally remember what a thread is about when
based on the subject
Arnt, let's be consistent. You assume the author doesn't
expect the reader to need the citation. This means that the
citation is left onl
On Mon, 14 Dec 2015 12:13:20 +0100
Didier Kryn wrote:
> > 2) that people generally remember what a thread is about when based on
> > the subject
>
> Arnt, let's be consistent. You assume the author doesn't expect the
> reader to need the citation. This means that the citation is left o
Le 13/12/2015 19:26, Arnt Gulbrandsen a écrit :
2) that people generally remember what a thread is about when based on
the subject
Arnt, let's be consistent. You assume the author doesn't expect the
reader to need the citation. This means that the citation is left only
because the author
caveman, simply bother to *manually* delete the unrelated content
every single time I reply to an email, and to quote only those bits
that I consider necessary to set the context.
I have no problem trying this out.
I believe there it is also a question of what the mind is used to. For
me it
On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 11:33:37PM +, dan pridgeon wrote:
> Its unfortunate that one cannot highlight the portion that one wishes to
> respond to, right click on the selected portion, and click "Respond" and have
> the editor do the rest of the work.
My email client (mutt) does not have such
: Re: [DNG] top posting, was: Re: Debianising my uploaded version of
netman.
On Sat, 12 Dec 2015 21:28:06 +0100
Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> On gmail threads text is automatically quoted: I have no option about
> that, other than selectively quoting parts.
Select
On Sun, 13 Dec 2015 07:10:42 -0500
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> But if I try (hard) to be charitable, what he actually says is that
> certain styles of writing *shout* indifference and selfishness.
> He could merely warning nice, attentive people that theit writing
> styles adversely affect the way the
On Sat, 12 Dec 2015 21:28:06 +0100
Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> On gmail threads text is automatically quoted: I have no option about
> that, other than selectively quoting parts.
Selectively quoting parts is precisely what should be done by every
poster, whether they're on gmail, mutt,
kato...@freaknet.org writes:
my nickname is actually KatolaZ, as written at the bottom of all my
emails :) On top of that, if you would have bottom-quoted my message,
you would have noted that my personal rant was followed by "IMHO",
which is short for "In My Humble Opinion".
It was labelled h
On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 07:10:42AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 12:57:29PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> > Dear Katola,
> >
> > Would you please refrain from writing insults as these truly prove
> > '"indifference" and "selfishness"'? Why would anyone resort to
> > bullyin
On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 12:57:29PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Dear Katola,
>
> Would you please refrain from writing insults as these truly prove
> '"indifference" and "selfishness"'? Why would anyone resort to
> bullying tactics to psychologically manipulate those who see an issue
> different
On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 01:40:30PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Hi Hendrik,
>
> Then, what is wrong with my writing style? Be aware that more often
> than not, after many hours struggling with code and compilers, I am
> usually too tired to write highly logical and appealing emails.
> Furthermor
Hi Hendrik,
Then, what is wrong with my writing style? Be aware that more often
than not, after many hours struggling with code and compilers, I am
usually too tired to write highly logical and appealing emails.
Furthermore, if I leave writing an email for the next day, I will have
forgotten what
On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 12:57:29PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Dear Katola,
>
> Would you please refrain from writing insults as these truly prove
> '"indifference" and "selfishness"'? Why would anyone resort to
> bullying tactics to psychologically manipulate those who see an issue
> different
Dear Katola,
Would you please refrain from writing insults as these truly prove
'"indifference" and "selfishness"'? Why would anyone resort to
bullying tactics to psychologically manipulate those who see an issue
differently?
Edward
On 13/12/2015, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 09:3
On Sun, Dec 13, 2015 at 09:30:47AM +, Simon Hobson wrote:
> shraptor wrote:
>
> > I must admit I am really clueless to what is considered good practice in
> > mailing-lists.
> ...
> > I am not rude on purpose but I truly don't know mailing-list style of
> > interaction.
> > Should I delete
shraptor wrote:
> I must admit I am really clueless to what is considered good practice in
> mailing-lists.
...
> I am not rude on purpose but I truly don't know mailing-list style of
> interaction.
> Should I delete this or keep this? Write here or write there?
In "days of old" it was accepte
I must admit I am really clueless to what is considered good practice in
mailing-lists.
I started coding on abc-80 but I only really know bulletin board style
interaction(same as git, right?) or personal email.
Not everybody was there at the start.
I am lost in mailing-lists but feel like I hav
On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 12:07:49PM +0100, Jaromil wrote:
> this sounds strange. since its very inception we have struggled to keep
> Dyne.org infrastructure and practices as friendly as possible for people
> with low or even no vision, since some of our funding members had such
> conditions.
Thank
Hi All,
On gmail threads text is automatically quoted: I have no option about
that, other than selectively quoting parts. I always make an effort to
write clearly, but more often than not, I am exhausted. I am making a
huge effort to complete netman, notwithstanding I never earned a penny
working
Jaromil writes:
> On Fri, 11 Dec 2015, Gregory Nowak wrote:
>> I have to throw in my $0.01 here. First, like Edward, I too prefer top
>> posting. I have noticed also that top posting seems to be an
>> overwhelming convention on blindness-related lists. I have seen
>> instances of bottom posters ge
>> Maybe the VUA's aren't the ones doing the top-posting, and maybe they
>> are tired of the issue, which comes up over and over again on the web
>> without much effect.
>> Short of moderating the list and rejecting every message that top-posts,
>> I see no hope of stamping it out. But the moder
>
> Short of moderating the list and rejecting every message that top-posts,
> I see no hope of stamping it out. But the moderation overhead would
> take valuale manpower, and would likely slow down important discussions.
>
> I rarely top-post, even when replying to deeply-nested top-posted
On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 10:40:08AM +0100, Rainer H. Rauschenberg wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Dec 2015, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
>
> > This suggests that another 'default behaviour' is "client can't do
> > threading based on References"
>
> I think this is (together with non-text-only-mails) the main reas
On Fri, 11 Dec 2015, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> I have to throw in my $0.01 here. First, like Edward, I too prefer top
> posting. I have noticed also that top posting seems to be an
> overwhelming convention on blindness-related lists. I have seen
> instances of bottom posters getting flamed on a blin
On Fri, 11 Dec 2015, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> This suggests that another 'default behaviour' is "client can't do
> threading based on References"
I think this is (together with non-text-only-mails) the main reason also
for sensible people to top-post and fully quote in typical
Outlook-/Exchan
Dear Rainer,
The code of Herbert Schildt is more understandable :)
Aitor.
El 11/12/15 20:13, Rainer Weikusat
escribió:
It's the default behaviour of certain e-mail clients and was already (at
that time) directly opposed to established conventions for communicating
via e-mail. Had Microsof
Gregory Nowak writes:
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 07:26:50PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote:
>> I think, it is irritating to first having to scroll down text others
>> have written rather than the text the latest poster has written. If
>> the latest poster wants his readers to refer to ealier posts, he
On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 07:26:50PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> I think, it is irritating to first having to scroll down text others
> have written rather than the text the latest poster has written. If
> the latest poster wants his readers to refer to ealier posts, he can
> state that in his rep
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