On 31.01.2016 17:17, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 31/01/2016 02:18, Go Linux a écrit :
>>I am just now upgrading Jessie and something wants to pull in
>> libsystemd0. I have no idea what.
> I made some trials.
>
> On Devuan Alpha2, libsystemd0 is required by (at least) policykit
> and gvfs
On Wed, Feb 03, 2016 at 03:05:52PM +, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> Haines Brown writes:
> > On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 08:04:26AM -0500, Haines Brown wrote:
> > Not having received an answer,
>
> I answered both of your questions.
My apologies. Your message for some reason did not show up, but I
ma
Haines Brown writes:
> On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 08:04:26AM -0500, Haines Brown wrote:
>> I suspect I could remove the /lib/systemd/ directory entirely, and it
>> might block any systemd-udev from changing network interface name, and
>> systemd=logind from freezing user's frozen desktop.
>>
>> So l
On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 08:04:26AM -0500, Haines Brown wrote:
> I suspect I could remove the /lib/systemd/ directory entirely, and it
> might block any systemd-udev from changing network interface name, and
> systemd=logind from freezing user's frozen desktop.
>
> So let me ask: if I delete the di
On 02/02/16 22:22, Didier Kryn wrote:
Le 02/02/2016 04:39, Simon Wise a écrit :
so looking at apt.conf I see as the very first text 'DESCRIPTION'
/etc/apt/apt.conf is the main configuration file shared by all
the tools in the APT suite of tools, though it is by no means
the only place options c
Didier Kryn writes:
> Le 02/02/2016 04:39, Simon Wise a écrit :
>> so looking at apt.conf I see as the very first text 'DESCRIPTION'
[...]
>> FILES
>>/etc/apt/apt.conf
>>APT configuration file. Configuration Item:
>>Dir::Etc::Main.
>>
>> /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/
>>
Simon Wise writes:
[...]
> If you have the dedication to GUI and the resources of a global
> mega-corporation it is possible to make a similar GUI actually respect
> the under-lying settings ... but it is incredibly hard work, way
> beyond almost any organisation. OSX did achieve this
Not at al
Le 02/02/2016 04:39, Simon Wise a écrit :
so looking at apt.conf I see as the very first text 'DESCRIPTION'
/etc/apt/apt.conf is the main configuration file shared by all
the tools in the APT suite of tools, though it is by no means
the only place options can be set. The suite also
On 01/02/16 22:47, Didier Kryn wrote:
Le 01/02/2016 12:09, Florian Zieboll a écrit :
florian@nulldevice:~$ cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01norecommend
APT::Install-Recommends "0";
APT::Install-Suggests "0";
#APT::AutoRemove::RecommendsImportant "0";
Synaptic will override this setting, if the relevan
On 02/02/16 00:13, Simon Hobson wrote:
Florian Zieboll wrote:
For the fun of it, I just ran an "apt-get install --install-recommends
--no-install-recommends" and it chose to not install the recommends.
The same with contradicting lines in apt.conf(.d/*):
APT::Install-Recommends "0";
APT::
On 02/02/16 01:58, Didier Kryn wrote:
Le 01/02/2016 14:13, Simon Hobson a écrit :
Florian Zieboll wrote:
For the fun of it, I just ran an "apt-get install --install-recommends
--no-install-recommends" and it chose to not install the recommends.
The same with contradicting lines in apt.conf(.d
Le 31/01/2016 23:59, Go Linux a écrit :
I must check
for default-jre and gimp because both are pretty usefull.
Yep, default-jre, default-jre-headless and gimp are installed. If I
try to remove libsystemd0, it only requires to remove also gvfs,
gvfs-daemons and gvfs-fuse, but, as explained
On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 15:58:36 +0100
Didier Kryn wrote:
> On my laptop the file 99synaptic contains only one line:
> APT::Install-Recommends "false";
>
> If all the files are read by all apt tools, then the setting
> meant for synaptic applies to all apt tools. If i'd purge synaptic,
> th
Le 01/02/2016 14:13, Simon Hobson a écrit :
Florian Zieboll wrote:
For the fun of it, I just ran an "apt-get install --install-recommends
--no-install-recommends" and it chose to not install the recommends.
The same with contradicting lines in apt.conf(.d/*):
APT::Install-Recommends "0";
On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 13:13:43 +
Simon Hobson wrote:
> Florian Zieboll wrote:
>
> > As with any of these newish "*.d/" folders, you can just
> >
> > $ cat apt.conf.d/* > apt.conf && rm -r apt.conf.d/
> >
> > without any consequences regarding the configuration. AFAIU this is
> > all about
Florian Zieboll wrote:
> For the fun of it, I just ran an "apt-get install --install-recommends
> --no-install-recommends" and it chose to not install the recommends.
> The same with contradicting lines in apt.conf(.d/*):
>
> APT::Install-Recommends "0";
> APT::Install-Recommends "1";
>
> Thi
On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 12:47:51 +0100
Didier Kryn wrote:
> Apparently synaptic keeps its config in its own config file
> /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/99synaptic. Do you mean synaptic reads all config
> files in order, and since 99synaptic is the last, it can override all
> previous settings?
For the
Le 01/02/2016 12:09, Florian Zieboll a écrit :
florian@nulldevice:~$ cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01norecommend
APT::Install-Recommends "0";
APT::Install-Suggests "0";
#APT::AutoRemove::RecommendsImportant "0";
Synaptic will override this setting, if the relevant option is checked.
Apparently s
On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 10:37:47 +0100
Didier Kryn wrote:
> You should use --no-install-recommends in apt-get. It is
> possible to configure apt-get to proceed like this by default but
> I've no expertise in how to configure it. In synaptic, you can set
> this behaviour in config/preferences/gene
Le 01/02/2016 01:24, Go Linux a écrit :
On Sun, 1/31/16, Didier Kryn wrote:
Subject: Re: [DNG] systemd is haunting me
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2016, 5:12 PM
Le 31/01/2016 23:59, Go Linux a écrit :
> So how did packagekit get in there?
I'
On Sun, 1/31/16, Didier Kryn wrote:
Subject: Re: [DNG] systemd is haunting me
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2016, 5:12 PM
Le 31/01/2016 23:59, Go Linux a écrit :
> So how did packagekit get in there?
I'm afraid it was recommended by rox-filer.
Le 31/01/2016 23:59, Go Linux a écrit :
So how did packagekit get in there?
I'm afraid it was recommended by rox-filer.
Didier
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On Sun, 1/31/16, Didier Kryn wrote:
Subject: Re: [DNG] systemd is haunting me
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2016, 4:38 PM
Le 31/01/2016 17:39, Go Linux a écrit :
> On Sun, 1/31/16, Didier Kryn wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [DNG] systemd is haunting me
&g
Le 31/01/2016 17:39, Go Linux a écrit :
On Sun, 1/31/16, Didier Kryn wrote:
Subject: Re: [DNG] systemd is haunting me
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2016, 10:17 AM
Le 31/01/2016 02:18, Go Linux a écrit :
I am just now upgrading Jessie and something wants to
On Sun, 1/31/16, Hendrik Boom wrote:
Subject: Re: [DNG] systemd is haunting me
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2016, 11:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [DNG] systemd is haunting me
> To: dng@lists.dyne.org
> Date: Sunday, January 31, 2016, 10:17 AM
>
> Le 31/01
Hendrik Boom writes:
> On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 04:39:15PM +, Go Linux wrote:
[...]
>> The operative qualifier being 'at least'. Just for giggles, I tried to
>> remove it and got this thrown at me:
>>
>> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>> acpi-fakekey avidemux avidemux-plugins c
On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 04:39:15PM +, Go Linux wrote:
> On Sun, 1/31/16, Didier Kryn wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [DNG] systemd is haunting me
> To: dng@lists.dyne.org
> Date: Sunday, January 31, 2016, 10:17 AM
>
> Le 31/01/2016 02:18, Go Linux a écrit :
>
> &
On Sun, 1/31/16, Didier Kryn wrote:
Subject: Re: [DNG] systemd is haunting me
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2016, 10:17 AM
Le 31/01/2016 02:18, Go Linux a écrit :
>I am just now upgrading Jessie and something wants to pull in libsystemd0.
> I have no ide
Le 31/01/2016 02:18, Go Linux a écrit :
I am just now upgrading Jessie and something wants to pull in libsystemd0.
I have no idea what.
I made some trials.
On Devuan Alpha2, libsystemd0 is required by (at least) policykit
and gvfs.
- gvfs is necessary if you want xfce4 to sh
Le 31/01/2016 15:32, Hendrik Boom a écrit :
aptide used to be unique because it maintained the distinction between
packages you had requested and packages it had installed as
dependencies. I'm told that nowadays, apt maintains that information,
too, so apttitude users don't have to worry about t
On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 05:14:00PM +0300, Mitt Green wrote:
> Florian Zieboll wrote:
>
> >The new syntax works fine on my Jessie systems, no need for
> >double entries.
>
> Nice :)
>
> >It is running sysv-init with XDM
> >and DWM / JWM and all the "major components"
> >like dbus, udev and eve
Florian Zieboll wrote:
>The new syntax works fine on my Jessie systems, no need for
>double entries.
Nice :)
>It is running sysv-init with XDM
>and DWM / JWM and all the "major components"
>like dbus, udev and even cups.
You may even want to remove dbus package, if there is no
dependency on
On 01/31/2016 05:57 AM, Florian Zieboll wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 08:23:50 +0300
> Mitt Green wrote:
>> Avoiding libsystemd0 without angband.pl repos is
>> not possible yet though.
>
> Yes, it is. I was a bit surprised myself when I checked my Jessie
> laptop again some days ago, but it is doe
Haines Brown writes:
> I have been running Debian Sid on a laptop with a purged systemd for
> quite a few months. Maybe when I now ran # aptitude update or
> safe-upgrade for the first time after several months since the Sid
> installation systemd-udevd seems to have switched my wireless interface
I was asked why I do not run Devuan rather than Sid on the laptop. When
I installed Sid, Devuan was not even in Alpha. I am not anxious to
reinstall Sid, but but when Devuan beta comes out I'll install it.
Mitt Green pointed out that the /etc/apt/preferences.d/systemd script
I've been using is inc
On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 08:23:50 +0300
Mitt Green wrote:
> Why not then pin libsystemd0 two times,
> both "old APT" and "new APT (>1.1)" ways?
The new syntax works fine on my Jessie systems, no need for double
entries.
> Avoiding libsystemd0 without angband.pl repos is
> not possible yet though.
Y
On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 19:26:48 -0500, Haines wrote in message
<20160131002648.gg8...@engels.historicalmaterialism.info>:
> I have been running Debian Sid on a laptop with a purged systemd for
> quite a few months. Maybe when I now ran # aptitude update or
> safe-upgrade for the first time after sev
Go Linux wrote:>Needless to say, I am NOT going to install it.Why not then pin libsystemd0 two times,both "old APT" and "new APT (>1.1)" ways?As we have been discussing pinning for a while now,you probably have seen the "new way."Avoiding libsystemd0 without angband.pl repos isnot possible yet thou
Haines Brown wrote:
>systemd-udevd seems to have switched my wireless interface
>from wlan0 to wlp3s0.
I highly recommend to use udev from Wheezy/Jessie on Unstable
and pin the package ("apt hold udev"). Vdev one day will be our
default device manager anyway.
The correct way to prevent a packa
On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 19:26:48 -0500
Haines Brown wrote:
> I have been running Debian Sid on a laptop with a purged systemd for
> quite a few months. Maybe when I now ran # aptitude update or
> safe-upgrade for the first time after
[snip]
> Systemd is not on the system, so where did systemd-login
On Sat, 1/30/16, Haines Brown wrote:
Subject: [DNG] systemd is haunting me
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Date: Saturday, January 30, 2016, 6:26 PM
I have been running Debian Sid on a laptop with a purged systemd for
quite a few months. Maybe when I now ran # aptitude update or
safe-upgrade for the
I have been running Debian Sid on a laptop with a purged systemd for
quite a few months. Maybe when I now ran # aptitude update or
safe-upgrade for the first time after several months since the Sid
installation systemd-udevd seems to have switched my wireless interface
from wlan0 to wlp3s0.
Changi
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