On Thu, 20 Jan 2022, Steve Litt wrote:
> Rick Moen said on Tue, 22 Jun 2021 01:51:35 -0700
>
> >Quoting Olaf Meeuwissen (paddy-h...@member.fsf.org):
> >
> >> I think it's fair to point out that systemd-timesyncd only promises
> >> Simple NTP (SNTP). How good a job it does of that is another m
On 1/20/22 12:30 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
After reading that page and man 5 ntpd.conf, I couldn't find out how to
make sure it does NTP. Is it safe to assume that it does both SNTP and
NTP out of the box, and the user of SNTP in no way compromises its use
of NTP?
As far as my knowledge goes: if y
> On 20 Jan 2022, at 21:58, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> Rick Moen said on Tue, 22 Jun 2021 01:51:35 -0700
>
>> Quoting Olaf Meeuwissen (paddy-h...@member.fsf.org):
>>
>>> I think it's fair to point out that systemd-timesyncd only promises
>>> Simple NTP (SNTP). How good a job it does of that is a
On Thursday 20 January 2022 at 12:30:20, Steve Litt wrote:
> Antony Stone said on Thu, 20 Jan 2022 12:02:08 +0100
> >On Thursday 20 January 2022 at 11:58:32, Steve Litt wrote:
> >
> > > I use openntpd. Is that NTP, or only SNTP?
> >
> > It's both: https://man.openbsd.org/ntpd
>
> Thanks Antony,
>
Antony Stone said on Thu, 20 Jan 2022 12:02:08 +0100
>On Thursday 20 January 2022 at 11:58:32, Steve Litt wrote:
>
>> I use openntpd. Is that NTP, or only SNTP?
>
>It's both: https://man.openbsd.org/ntpd
>
>
>Antony.
Thanks Antony,
After reading that page and man 5 ntpd.conf, I couldn't find o
On Thursday 20 January 2022 at 11:58:32, Steve Litt wrote:
> I use openntpd. Is that NTP, or only SNTP?
It's both: https://man.openbsd.org/ntpd
Antony.
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Rick Moen said on Tue, 22 Jun 2021 01:51:35 -0700
>Quoting Olaf Meeuwissen (paddy-h...@member.fsf.org):
>
>> I think it's fair to point out that systemd-timesyncd only promises
>> Simple NTP (SNTP). How good a job it does of that is another matter
>> but at least it explains some of the "quirks"
On Fri, Jul 09, 2021 at 03:47:14AM -0700, spiralofh...@spiralofhope.com wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Jun 2021 13:15:13 -0700
> Rick Moen wrote:
>
> > If local time suddenly lurches forward or backward a great distance,
> > already running processes may get very distressed or fall over, log
> > files will
On Fri, 9 Jul 2021 13:10:24 -0400
Steve Litt wrote:
> spiralofh...@spiralofhope.com said on Fri, 9 Jul 2021 03:47:14 -0700
>
> [...]
> >> If local time suddenly lurches forward or backward a great
> >> distance, already running processes may get very distressed or
> >> fall over, log files wi
spiralofh...@spiralofhope.com said on Fri, 9 Jul 2021 03:47:14 -0700
>On Sun, 20 Jun 2021 13:15:13 -0700
>Rick Moen wrote:
>
>> If local time suddenly lurches forward or backward a great distance,
>> already running processes may get very distressed or fall over, log
>> files will become very pec
On Sun, 20 Jun 2021 13:15:13 -0700
Rick Moen wrote:
> If local time suddenly lurches forward or backward a great distance,
> already running processes may get very distressed or fall over, log
> files will become very peculiar, etc.
I saw a YouTube video that demonstrated how 3D printing produce
Hi Rick,
Rick Moen writes:
> Quoting Olaf Meeuwissen (paddy-h...@member.fsf.org):
>
>> I think it's fair to point out that systemd-timesyncd only promises
>> Simple NTP (SNTP). How good a job it does of that is another matter
>> but at least it explains some of the "quirks" you mention below.
>
Quoting Olaf Meeuwissen (paddy-h...@member.fsf.org):
> I think it's fair to point out that systemd-timesyncd only promises
> Simple NTP (SNTP). How good a job it does of that is another matter
> but at least it explains some of the "quirks" you mention below.
Put that way, fair point. _But_, th
On Mon 21/Jun/2021 00:52:42 +0200 karl wrote:
Rick Moen:
...
https://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Dev/DeprecatingNtpdate
...
Thanks for the link.
And for the heads-up.
I've been using ntpdate-debian every 30 minutes for years. After tuning the HW
clock, the adjustment is usually less than 20
Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng said on Mon, 21 Jun 2021 20:08:49 +0900
>Hi Rick,
>
>Rick Moen writes:
>
>> [...]
>>
>> The only client to point and laugh at is systemd-timesyncd.
>
>I think it's fair to point out that systemd-timesyncd only promises
>Simple NTP (SNTP). How good a job it does of that i
Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng said on Mon, 21 Jun 2021 20:04:56 +0900
>If your computer's clock is way out of sync, i.e. more than five
>minutes if memory serves me right, ntp will refuse to sync the clock
>on the assumption that that time difference is on purpose. You can
>easily, and at your own per
Hi Rick,
Rick Moen writes:
> [...]
>
> The only client to point and laugh at is systemd-timesyncd.
I think it's fair to point out that systemd-timesyncd only promises
Simple NTP (SNTP). How good a job it does of that is another matter
but at least it explains some of the "quirks" you mention be
Hi,
There's been a good deal of good advice already but I just wanted to add
my two yen.
o1bigtenor via Dng writes:
> Greetings
>
> Noticed that my new Beowulf install time was not accurate.
>
> Went looking for a tips page and all I could find was information
> relating to using systemd and or
Rick Moen said on Sun, 20 Jun 2021 13:15:13 -0700
># ntpd -gqc /dev/null server1.name.net server2.name.org
>server3.name.com
>
>Above will always work, provided system clock is within about 68 years
>of current time.
>
>Do _not_ use ntpdate any more. It doesn't work well.
>https://support.ntp.or
Rick Moen:
...
> https://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Dev/DeprecatingNtpdate
...
Thanks for the link.
/Karl Hammar
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Quoting Simon Hobson (li...@thehobsons.co.uk):
> From memory, ntp does have problems with clocks that are a long way
> out of sync - or has that been fixed ?
The NTP protocol _inherently_ has problems with system clocks that are a
long way out of sync -- in the sense that, yes, you can easily fo
k...@aspodata.se wrote:
>> npt only synchronizes only on machine starts.
>
> That is wrong, I guess you are thinking about initial sync.
>
> You can do initial syncronisation with e.g. ntpdate, but ntpd can do
> that also, but can take more time before it decides to jump the clock
> if it differ
On Sat, 2021-06-19 at 09:31 -0500, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
> Noticed that my new Beowulf install time was not accurate.
>
> Went looking for a tips page and all I could find was information
> relating to using systemd and or its tools to do such. I know there
> is a way to do this without syste
o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
> Please - - - anyone for a short writeup on how to
> install/start/whatever else to ntp without using systemd?
A full HOWTO page on what to do to fix this easily for your system is
this one line.
apt-get install ntp
Then best thing to do is to reboot so that every
On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 12:18:32 -0500
o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
> What none of the articles mentioned was on how to synchronize system
> time with npt. I had already installed npt it was the synchronizing
> that I wasn't remembering and there was no mention of how to for
> anything but systemd linke
o1bigtenor via Dng said on Sat, 19 Jun 2021 09:31:23 -0500
>Greetings
>
>Noticed that my new Beowulf install time was not accurate.
>
>Went looking for a tips page and all I could find was information
>relating to using systemd and or its tools to do such. I know there is
>a way to do this without
On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 09:31:23 -0500
o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
> Greetings
>
> Noticed that my new Beowulf install time was not accurate.
>
> Went looking for a tips page and all I could find was information
> relating to using systemd and or its tools to do such. I know there is
> a way to do th
o1bigtenor:
> Given that Devuan is about the 'not' use of systemd it would seem sorta
> normal to have a how-to for a newbie
I don't follow the logic in that.
Are you saying that thoose who don't use systemd needs newbie
documentation ?
> - - - - - and I couldn't find anything
> that wasn't usi
On Sat, Jun 19, 2021 at 9:36 AM R. G. Sidler via Dng wrote:
>
>
> Am 19.06.21 um 16:33 schrieb R. G. Sidler via Dng:
> > Am 19.06.21 um 16:31 schrieb o1bigtenor via Dng:
> >> Greetings
> >>
> >> Noticed that my new Beowulf install time was not accurate.
> >>
> >> Went looking for a tips page and a
On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 09:31:23 -0500
o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
> Greetings
>
> Noticed that my new Beowulf install time was not accurate.
>
> Went looking for a tips page and all I could find was information
> relating to using systemd and or its tools to do such. I know there is
> a way to do th
Am 19.06.21 um 16:33 schrieb R. G. Sidler via Dng:
Am 19.06.21 um 16:31 schrieb o1bigtenor via Dng:
Greetings
Noticed that my new Beowulf install time was not accurate.
Went looking for a tips page and all I could find was information
relating to using systemd and or its tools to do such. I k
On Saturday 19 June 2021 at 16:31:23, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote:
> Please - - - anyone for a short writeup on how to
> install/start/whatever else to ntp without using systemd?
Personally I use "aptitude install ntp".
Antony.
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Am 19.06.21 um 16:31 schrieb o1bigtenor via Dng:
Greetings
Noticed that my new Beowulf install time was not accurate.
Went looking for a tips page and all I could find was information
relating to using systemd and or its tools to do such. I know there is
a way to do this without systemd - - - -
Greetings
Noticed that my new Beowulf install time was not accurate.
Went looking for a tips page and all I could find was information
relating to using systemd and or its tools to do such. I know there is
a way to do this without systemd - - - - - just - - - its been a very
long time since I've
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