On 2019-03-17 6:05 p.m., Jaromil wrote:
On Thu, 14 Mar 2019, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
On 2019-03-14 03:48, Rick Moen wrote:
Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org):
I just wonder whether your nice solution is enough for a wider
audience used to have things popping up around all the time. I gue
On Thu, 14 Mar 2019, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> On 2019-03-14 03:48, Rick Moen wrote:
> > Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org):
> >
> > > I just wonder whether your nice solution is enough for a wider
> > > audience used to have things popping up around all the time. I guess
> > > it's not, as m
On Fri, 15 Mar 2019 01:10:12 -0400, Steve wrote in message
<20190315011012.14cfc...@mydesk.domain.cxm>:
> On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 10:45:08 +0100
> KatolaZ wrote:
>
> > On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 04:43:44AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> >
> > [cut]
> >
> > >
> > > By the way, how did you detect inser
On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 10:45:08 +0100
KatolaZ wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 04:43:44AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> >
> > By the way, how did you detect insertion? Were you using dmesg
> > --follow ?
> >
>
> Much easier than that: since I am normally the only person who inserts
>
On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 01:48:07 -0700
Rick Moen wrote:
> I'm quoting the above in order to express appreciation for it -- in
> context. Like Steve Litt, I favour the smallest possible entanglement
> with Freedesktop.org 'desktop' components
[snip]
> I would not have supported that commitment, pe
On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 10:45:08AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 04:43:44AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> >
> > By the way, how did you detect insertion? Were you using dmesg
> > --follow ?
> >
>
> Much easier than that: since I am normally the only person who insert
On 2019-03-14 03:48, Rick Moen wrote:
Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org):
I just wonder whether your nice solution is enough for a wider
audience used to have things popping up around all the time. I guess
it's not, as much as setnet is not a solution to manage networks
palatable to a wider
SteveT:
...
> By the way, how did you detect insertion? Were you using dmesg
> --follow ?
...
I usually detect insertion via my nervous system connecting to the tip
of my fingers, they detect the end stop or click that usually uccurs
when the device is fully inserted.
This detection system the
On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 04:43:44AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
[cut]
>
> By the way, how did you detect insertion? Were you using dmesg
> --follow ?
>
Much easier than that: since I am normally the only person who inserts
a stick in my computer, and I don't have any 100 meters long USB cable
runn
Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org):
> I just wonder whether your nice solution is enough for a wider
> audience used to have things popping up around all the time. I guess
> it's not, as much as setnet is not a solution to manage networks
> palatable to a wider audience, as much as apt-get is
On Thu, 14 Mar 2019 09:24:47 +0100
KatolaZ wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 04:10:54AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 22:54:34 +0100
> > KatolaZ wrote:
> >
> > > Ask those who *absolutely* *needed* usb sticks to be
> > > immediately automounted irrespective whatever DE they
On Wed, 13 Mar 2019 09:15:00 +0100
Didier Kryn wrote:
> It is not obvious which of these functionalites Dbus and/or
> Gnome (eg gvfs) are mandatory for. But I bet most don't need them at
> all. Ranting against Dbus and Gnome - which I easily do (-: - doesn't
> help much. What really help
On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 04:10:54AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 22:54:34 +0100
> KatolaZ wrote:
>
> > Ask those who *absolutely* *needed* usb sticks to be
> > immediately automounted irrespective whatever DE they were using, and
> > wanted the icon on the panel as soon as the dr
On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 22:54:34 +0100
KatolaZ wrote:
> Ask those who *absolutely* *needed* usb sticks to be
> immediately automounted irrespective whatever DE they were using, and
> wanted the icon on the panel as soon as the drive was up.
I and another guy on the DNG list solved that one a couple
Le 12/03/2019 à 22:54, KatolaZ a écrit :
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 04:54:02PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
What *is* that "desktop integration" that those users want?
Ask them. Ask those who complained for months before ascii got to beta
stage because they could not click on a button and suspend
KatolaZ [12/03/2019 22.54]:
> I am not saying these are not valid complaints, quite the opposite. I
> am just saying that I accepted years ago that the way I use Linux is
> not the same other users use it, and I have to keep this in mind if I
> want to contribute to Devuan.
Well said. Having used
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 04:54:02PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 10:40:02AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> > Then, you won't have any
> > "desktop integration" which seems to be a "must" for many users today,
> > but I can assure that life goes on either way.
>
> What *is* that "de
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 10:40:02AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> Then, you won't have any
> "desktop integration" which seems to be a "must" for many users today,
> but I can assure that life goes on either way.
What *is* that "desktop integration" that those users want?
-- hendrik
>
> We can only fe
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 09:07:07PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 17:04:23 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message
> <20190312160423.c62sssfcgc4b6...@katolaz.homeunix.net>:
>
> > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 04:24:43PM +0100, Jaromil wrote:
> > >
> > > dear Didier,
> > >
> > > thanks for t
On Tue, 12 Mar 2019 17:04:23 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message
<20190312160423.c62sssfcgc4b6...@katolaz.homeunix.net>:
> On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 04:24:43PM +0100, Jaromil wrote:
> >
> > dear Didier,
> >
> > thanks for this quick C monitoring tool using the inotify API
> >
> > I think this may be
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 07:02:29PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:
[cut]
> > In order to contact your preferred DE's interface to select the printer
> > when you hit CTRL+P, just to make one example out of several dozens?
> >
> Is dbus really necessary for that? When printing from Palemoon, the sa
Le 12/03/2019 à 10:40, KatolaZ a écrit :
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 09:48:11AM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:
Le 11/03/2019 à 19:33, KatolaZ a écrit :
guys, anything using dbus will most probably (indirectly) access
/var/lib/dbus/machine-id at some point in time, since that file is
read when attemp
On 2019-03-12 11:04, KatolaZ wrote:
Then I closed it, created a /etc/machine-id with:
# head -c 4 /dev/random | md5sum | cut -d " " -f 1 > /etc/machine-id
and restarted it. It worked. Then I changed the machine-id and
restarted it several time, and it worked. Then I put /etc/machine-id
equal
dear Katolaz,
On Tue, 12 Mar 2019, KatolaZ wrote:
> We shall probably dig a deeper into this...
indeed what is happening on my machine is hard to reproduce. What also
complicates things is that I do aggressive isolation of different
browser directories using firejail and my tool tinfoil
(https:/
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 04:24:43PM +0100, Jaromil wrote:
>
> dear Didier,
>
> thanks for this quick C monitoring tool using the inotify API
>
> I think this may be useful also for /etc/machine-id - which may be a
> different ID from dbus I believe?
>
> meanwhile an update on my adventures using
dear Didier,
thanks for this quick C monitoring tool using the inotify API
I think this may be useful also for /etc/machine-id - which may be a
different ID from dbus I believe?
meanwhile an update on my adventures using chromium on Beowulf: it
basically stopped working since I overwrote my mac
Hi,
On 12/3/19 9:25, KatolaZ wrote:
Again, this is pretty pointless: just look for reverse-deps on libdbus
and you'll find the answers you are looking for.
/var/lib/dbus/machine-id is read by anyting that opens a dbus channel
and/or sends/receives a message through dbus. It is not read by the
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 09:59:04AM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Didier Kryn - 12.03.19, 09:48:
> > Le 11/03/2019 à 19:33, KatolaZ a écrit :
> > > guys, anything using dbus will most probably (indirectly) access
> > > /var/lib/dbus/machine-id at some point in time, since that file is
> > > rea
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 09:48:11AM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 11/03/2019 à 19:33, KatolaZ a écrit :
> > guys, anything using dbus will most probably (indirectly) access
> > /var/lib/dbus/machine-id at some point in time, since that file is
> > read when attempting to send a message via dbus.
>
Didier Kryn - 12.03.19, 09:48:
> Le 11/03/2019 à 19:33, KatolaZ a écrit :
> > guys, anything using dbus will most probably (indirectly) access
> > /var/lib/dbus/machine-id at some point in time, since that file is
> > read when attempting to send a message via dbus.
>
> It's most certainly as
Le 11/03/2019 à 19:33, KatolaZ a écrit :
guys, anything using dbus will most probably (indirectly) access
/var/lib/dbus/machine-id at some point in time, since that file is
read when attempting to send a message via dbus.
It's most certainly as simple as that.
The question is why the h
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 08:17:59AM +0100, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> Anno domini 2019 Mon, 11 Mar 19:16:13 +0100
> Didier Kryn scripsit:
> > First list of applications reading machine-id.
> >
> > /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon
> > /usr/bin/dbus-launch
> > /usr/local/waterfox/wa
Anno domini 2019 Mon, 11 Mar 19:16:13 +0100
Didier Kryn scripsit:
> First list of applications reading machine-id.
>
> /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon
> /usr/bin/dbus-launch
> /usr/local/waterfox/waterfox
>
> None of Palemoon, Firefox-ESR or Surf reads machine-id on my ASCI
Anno domini 2019 Mon, 11 Mar 19:16:13 +0100
Didier Kryn scripsit:
> First list of applications reading machine-id.
>
> /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon
> /usr/bin/dbus-launch
> /usr/local/waterfox/waterfox
You can add "chromium".
>
> None of Palemoon, Firefox-ESR or Surf r
On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 17:43:45 +0100, Didier wrote in message
:
> Le 11/03/2019 à 17:22, Arnt Karlsen a écrit :
> > On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 15:47:57 +0100, Didier wrote in message
> > :
> >
> >> Le 11/03/2019 à 15:32, Didier Kryn a écrit :
> >>> The invocation syntax to watch machine-id is
> >>> 'f
On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 07:16:13PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:
> First list of applications reading machine-id.
>
> /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon
> /usr/bin/dbus-launch
> /usr/local/waterfox/waterfox
>
> None of Palemoon, Firefox-ESR or Surf reads machine-id on my ASCII
> laptop.
First list of applications reading machine-id.
/usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon
/usr/bin/dbus-launch
/usr/local/waterfox/waterfox
None of Palemoon, Firefox-ESR or Surf reads machine-id on my ASCII
laptop. I compiled Palemoon on Jessie maybe two years ago, and I think I
compiled
Le 11/03/2019 à 17:22, Arnt Karlsen a écrit :
On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 15:47:57 +0100, Didier wrote in message
:
Le 11/03/2019 à 15:32, Didier Kryn a écrit :
The invocation syntax to watch machine-id is
'fawatch /var/lib/machine-id'
Erratum:
The invocation syntax to watch machine-id is 'fawatch
/
On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 15:47:57 +0100, Didier wrote in message
:
> Le 11/03/2019 à 15:32, Didier Kryn a écrit :
> > The invocation syntax to watch machine-id is
> > 'fawatch /var/lib/machine-id'
>
> Erratum:
>
> The invocation syntax to watch machine-id is 'fawatch
> /var/lib/dbus/machine-id'
Le 11/03/2019 à 15:51, KatolaZ a écrit :
On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 03:32:57PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:
Please find in atttachment a quickly hacked C program which writes a
line on standard output everytime a process opens a given file.
The invocation syntax to watch machine-id is 'fawatc
On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 03:32:57PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Please find in atttachment a quickly hacked C program which writes a
> line on standard output everytime a process opens a given file.
>
> The invocation syntax to watch machine-id is 'fawatch
> /var/lib/machine-id'
Hi Didier
Le 11/03/2019 à 15:32, Didier Kryn a écrit :
The invocation syntax to watch machine-id is 'fawatch /var/lib/machine-id'
Erratum:
The invocation syntax to watch machine-id is 'fawatch
/var/lib/dbus/machine-id'
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Please find in atttachment a quickly hacked C program which writes
a line on standard output everytime a process opens a given file.
The invocation syntax to watch machine-id is 'fawatch
/var/lib/machine-id'
The program can be compiled with 'gcc -o fawatch fawatch.c'
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