Re: [DNG] keys & subsystems

2018-07-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Tue, 31 Jul 2018 01:29:33 +0200, Alessandro wrote in message <20180731012933.04fec274@ayu.localdomain>: > On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 at 09:39:14 +0200 > Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > [...] > > > ..a luxury we can afford once we know which trick the enemy is > > going to play on us. Meanwhile we're luck

Re: [DNG] keys & subsystems

2018-07-30 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Mon, 30 Jul 2018 at 09:39:14 +0200 Arnt Karlsen wrote: [...] > ..a luxury we can afford once we know which trick the enemy is going to > play on us. Meanwhile we're lucky if we waste no more than 2/3 of our > ammo on our bad guesses. The cost of getting on with life. ;o) Precisely becaus

Re: [DNG] keys & subsystems

2018-07-30 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 08:43:30 +0100, Simon wrote in message <2ed6325a-a0b9-425b-8236-50657a44a...@thehobsons.co.uk>: > Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > ..or "make do with whatever you have onboard" in new "creative" > > ways. > > > > ..people has played music on printers and harddisks produced to > >

Re: [DNG] keys & subsystems

2018-07-29 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 28/07/2018 à 09:32, KatolaZ a écrit : On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 02:17:14PM -0500, Eric Lee Elliott wrote: How can I make hardware keys work in a Thinkpad T500?  Vol+, Vol- & Mute are only ones I would use. In other Linux distros the mute, vol+ & vol - keys work.  A link to a way would be good e

Re: [DNG] keys & subsystems

2018-07-29 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 at 05:08:30 +0200 Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 02:28:52 +0200, Alessandro wrote in message > <20180729022852.5208a5ca@ayu.localdomain>: > >> On Sat, 28 Jul 2018 at 15:28:56 +0200 >> Arnt Karlsen wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 28 Jul 2018 10:07:53 +0200, Alessandro wro

Re: [DNG] keys & subsystems

2018-07-29 Thread Simon Hobson
Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..or "make do with whatever you have onboard" in new "creative" ways. > > ..people has played music on printers and harddisks produced to print > oud documents and store data, by hacking them in new creative ways, > for decades. Yes, but that's someone with access to the

Re: [DNG] keys & subsystems

2018-07-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 02:28:52 +0200, Alessandro wrote in message <20180729022852.5208a5ca@ayu.localdomain>: > On Sat, 28 Jul 2018 at 15:28:56 +0200 > Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > On Sat, 28 Jul 2018 10:07:53 +0200, Alessandro wrote in message > > <20180728100753.4ff8dd7c@ayu.localdomain>: > > >

Re: [DNG] keys & subsystems

2018-07-28 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Sat, 28 Jul 2018 at 09:32:46 -0700 spiralofhope wrote: > With an already-compromised system Err, *cough* Alessandro ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] keys & subsystems

2018-07-28 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Sat, 28 Jul 2018 at 15:48:31 +0200 Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 10:07:53AM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: >> On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 at 14:17:14 -0500 >> Eric Lee Elliott wrote: >> >> [...] >> >>> like >>> memory sticks are know to have internal computers.  How do Devuan use

Re: [DNG] keys & subsystems

2018-07-28 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Sat, 28 Jul 2018 at 15:28:56 +0200 Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sat, 28 Jul 2018 10:07:53 +0200, Alessandro wrote in message > <20180728100753.4ff8dd7c@ayu.localdomain>: > >> On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 at 14:17:14 -0500 >> Eric Lee Elliott wrote: >> >> [...] >> >>> like >>> memory sticks are know

Re: [DNG] keys & subsystems

2018-07-28 Thread spiralofhope
On Sun, 29 Jul 2018 00:04:35 +1000 Ralph Ronnquist wrote: > More popcorn!! And let's see the limits of your imaginations... To toss my hat in: With an already-compromised system, *technically* USB itself, with nothing plugged in, can transmit radio waves. Offhand, I wasn't able to find the CCC

Re: [DNG] keys & subsystems

2018-07-28 Thread Clarke Sideroad
On 2018-07-27 03:17 PM, Eric Lee Elliott wrote: How can I make hardware keys work in a Thinkpad T500?  Vol+, Vol- & Mute are only ones I would use. In other Linux distros the mute, vol+ & vol - keys work.  A link to a way would be good enough for me. Do you have tpb installed? According to t

Re: [DNG] keys & subsystems

2018-07-28 Thread Ralph Ronnquist
Tomasz Torcz wrote on 28/07/18 23:48: On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 10:07:53AM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 at 14:17:14 -0500 Eric Lee Elliott wrote: [...] like memory sticks are know to have internal computers.  How do Devuan users know the SSD is not calling home How coul

Re: [DNG] keys & subsystems

2018-07-28 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 10:07:53AM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 at 14:17:14 -0500 > Eric Lee Elliott wrote: > > [...] > > > like > > memory sticks are know to have internal computers.  How do Devuan users > > know the SSD is not calling home > > How could they possibly

Re: [DNG] keys & subsystems

2018-07-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 28 Jul 2018 10:07:53 +0200, Alessandro wrote in message <20180728100753.4ff8dd7c@ayu.localdomain>: > On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 at 14:17:14 -0500 > Eric Lee Elliott wrote: > > [...] > > > like > > memory sticks are know to have internal computers.  How do Devuan > > users know the SSD is not

Re: [DNG] keys & subsystems

2018-07-28 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 at 14:17:14 -0500 Eric Lee Elliott wrote: [...] > like > memory sticks are know to have internal computers.  How do Devuan users > know the SSD is not calling home How could they possibly do it? Do you think they have a WiFi embedded? Alessandro

Re: [DNG] keys & subsystems

2018-07-28 Thread KatolaZ
On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 02:17:14PM -0500, Eric Lee Elliott wrote: > How can I make hardware keys work in a Thinkpad T500?  Vol+, Vol- & Mute are > only ones I would use. In other Linux distros the mute, vol+ & vol - keys > work.  A link to a way would be good enough for me. > I wrote a small HOWT

Re: [DNG] keys & subsystems

2018-07-27 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Am Freitag, 27. Juli 2018 schrieb Eric Lee Elliott: > How can I make hardware keys work in a Thinkpad T500?  Vol+, Vol- & Mute > are only ones I would use. In other Linux distros the mute, vol+ & vol - > keys work.  A link to a way would be good enough for me. Do you have "acpi-support" installe

Re: [DNG] keys & subsystems

2018-07-27 Thread Joel Roth
Eric Lee Elliott wrote: > How can I make hardware keys work in a Thinkpad T500?  Vol+, Vol- & Mute are > only ones I would use. In other Linux distros the mute, vol+ & vol - keys > work.  A link to a way would be good enough for me. I haven't tried it, but it looks like the 'bind' command will do

[DNG] keys & subsystems

2018-07-27 Thread Eric Lee Elliott
How can I make hardware keys work in a Thinkpad T500?  Vol+, Vol- & Mute are only ones I would use. In other Linux distros the mute, vol+ & vol - keys work.  A link to a way would be good enough for me. In the discussions of security & kernel, other internal computers seem hidden from conside