Re: [DNG] elogind available in experimental and ascii-proposed

2018-01-19 Thread Hleb Valoshka
On 1/19/18, Arnt Karlsen wrote: >> Have you rebooted your pc after upgrading CK to CK2? > > ..while ok for us mere mortal hobbyist end users, is this > reboot dance acceptable in business hours? Reboot is still required to enable a new kernel, and anyway operations like dist-upgrade should be ru

Re: [DNG] elogind available in experimental and ascii-proposed

2018-01-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 17 Jan 2018 13:22:13 +0300, Hleb wrote in message : > On 1/17/18, Andreas Messer wrote: > > > Btw, "ck-list-sessions" crashes for me: > ... > > Have you rebooted your pc after upgrading CK to CK2? ..while ok for us mere mortal hobbyist end users, is this reboot dance acceptable in

Re: [DNG] elogind available in experimental and ascii-proposed

2018-01-18 Thread Andreas Messer
On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 01:22:13PM +0300, Hleb Valoshka wrote: > On 1/17/18, Andreas Messer wrote: > > > Btw, "ck-list-sessions" crashes for me: > ... > > Have you rebooted your pc after upgrading CK to CK2? > I believe this crash exist only when one is still running old ck > daemon. Unfortunate

Re: [DNG] elogind available in experimental and ascii-proposed

2018-01-18 Thread Irrwahn
Didier Kryn wrote on 18.01.2018 11:34: > Le 18/01/2018 à 11:22, Irrwahn a écrit : >> Didier Kryn wrote on 18.01.2018 10:38: >> [...] >>>     Now it works. Will wait until consolekit2 is available, though, to >>> make a more significant test. I'm using xfce4. >> Didier, >> >> consolekit2 is availa

Re: [DNG] elogind available in experimental and ascii-proposed

2018-01-18 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 18/01/2018 à 11:22, Irrwahn a écrit : Didier Kryn wrote on 18.01.2018 10:38: [...]     Now it works. Will wait until consolekit2 is available, though, to make a more significant test. I'm using xfce4. Didier, consolekit2 is available in experimental, installs cleanly in ascii. Relevant so

Re: [DNG] elogind available in experimental and ascii-proposed

2018-01-18 Thread Irrwahn
Didier Kryn wrote on 18.01.2018 10:38: [...] > >     Now it works. Will wait until consolekit2 is available, though, to > make a more significant test. I'm using xfce4. Didier, consolekit2 is available in experimental, installs cleanly in ascii. Relevant sources.list line: deb http://pk

Re: [DNG] elogind available in experimental and ascii-proposed

2018-01-18 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 10:38:01AM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: [cut] > >     Here is the message: > > The repository 'http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged ascii-proposed Release' > does not have a Release file.Data from such a repository can't be > authenticated and is therefore potentially dangero

Re: [DNG] elogind available in experimental and ascii-proposed

2018-01-18 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 17/01/2018 à 12:22, Irrwahn a écrit : Didier Kryn wrote on 17.01.2018 11:59: Le 15/01/2018 à 11:30, KatolaZ a écrit : The package is now available in Devuan in "ascii-proposed"     I've added this repository to my sources.list: deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii-proposed main c

Re: [DNG] elogind available in experimental and ascii-proposed

2018-01-17 Thread KatolaZ
On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 11:39:21AM +, KatolaZ wrote: > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 02:25:48PM +0300, Hleb Valoshka wrote: > > On 1/17/18, Didier Kryn wrote: > > > deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii-proposed main contrib > > > non-free > > > > not /merged/ but /devuan/ > > > > > Never

Re: [DNG] elogind available in experimental and ascii-proposed

2018-01-17 Thread KatolaZ
On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 02:25:48PM +0300, Hleb Valoshka wrote: > On 1/17/18, Didier Kryn wrote: > > deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii-proposed main contrib non-free > > not /merged/ but /devuan/ > > > Nevertheless, I can't see neither elogind, nor consolekit2 > > ck2 is not there st

Re: [DNG] elogind available in experimental and ascii-proposed

2018-01-17 Thread KatolaZ
On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 11:59:22AM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 15/01/2018 à 11:30, KatolaZ a écrit : > >The package is now available in Devuan in "ascii-proposed" > >     I've added this repository to my sources.list: > deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii-proposed main contrib non-fre

Re: [DNG] elogind available in experimental and ascii-proposed

2018-01-17 Thread Hleb Valoshka
On 1/17/18, Didier Kryn wrote: > deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii-proposed main contrib non-free not /merged/ but /devuan/ > Nevertheless, I can't see neither elogind, nor consolekit2 ck2 is not there still due to jenkins issues ___ Dng m

Re: [DNG] elogind available in experimental and ascii-proposed

2018-01-17 Thread Irrwahn
Didier Kryn wrote on 17.01.2018 11:59: > Le 15/01/2018 à 11:30, KatolaZ a écrit : >> The package is now available in Devuan in "ascii-proposed" > >     I've added this repository to my sources.list: > deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii-proposed main contrib non-free > > Also added the

Re: [DNG] elogind available in experimental and ascii-proposed

2018-01-17 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 15/01/2018 à 11:30, KatolaZ a écrit : The package is now available in Devuan in "ascii-proposed"     I've added this repository to my sources.list: deb http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/ ascii-proposed main contrib non-free Also added the following line to apt.conf, because synaptic refuse

Re: [DNG] elogind available in experimental and ascii-proposed

2018-01-17 Thread Hleb Valoshka
On 1/17/18, Andreas Messer wrote: > Btw, "ck-list-sessions" crashes for me: ... Have you rebooted your pc after upgrading CK to CK2? I believe this crash exist only when one is still running old ck daemon. Unfortunately it looks like there is no way to replace running ck daemon (we can kill runn

Re: [DNG] elogind available in experimental and ascii-proposed

2018-01-16 Thread Andreas Messer
On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 04:09:58PM +0300, Hleb Valoshka wrote: > On 1/16/18, Hleb Valoshka <375...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Not yet, devuan ci has issues with repos containing pristine-tar. I'll > > build it locally and put it somewhere and then write its location > > here. > > https://mega.nz/#!I

Re: [DNG] elogind available in experimental and ascii-proposed

2018-01-16 Thread Didier Kryn
    Could you, experts, explain me (and maybe others) what the role of logind, consolekit and polkit is exactly?     What I understand from your discussion is that consolekit and logind are doing the same thing and stepping on each others feet. Gentoo's consolekit wiki tells the following: *

Re: [DNG] elogind available in experimental and ascii-proposed

2018-01-16 Thread Hleb Valoshka
On 1/16/18, Hleb Valoshka <375...@gmail.com> wrote: > Not yet, devuan ci has issues with repos containing pristine-tar. I'll > build it locally and put it somewhere and then write its location > here. https://mega.nz/#!IMFCWRBQ!7xA2eH0PpMqF9v3WF4DhTnAgVFEjRW0pPskA2XaSO78 This tarball contains ve

Re: [DNG] elogind available in experimental and ascii-proposed

2018-01-16 Thread Hleb Valoshka
On 1/16/18, Andreas Messer wrote: > Yes we have to figure out if any of the DM works without the pam stuff, but > there are people who use terminal sessions :-) And for them, enabling the Quite strange, but even systemd has the following pam config (only relevant part): Session: optional

Re: [DNG] elogind available in experimental and ascii-proposed

2018-01-16 Thread Andreas Messer
On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 01:00:30PM +0300, Hleb Valoshka wrote: > On 1/16/18, Andreas Messer wrote: > ... > > When elogind pam module is enabled, the session is correctly registered > > with elogind. This can be done by following steps: > > Afaik pam module is required only for terminal sessions,

Re: [DNG] elogind available in experimental and ascii-proposed

2018-01-16 Thread Hleb Valoshka
On 1/16/18, Andreas Messer wrote: ... > When elogind pam module is enabled, the session is correctly registered > with elogind. This can be done by following steps: Afaik pam module is required only for terminal sessions, for DM it usually isn't required unless your DM doesn't support it directly

Re: [DNG] elogind available in experimental and ascii-proposed

2018-01-15 Thread Andreas Messer
On Mon, Jan 15, 2018 at 10:30:12AM +, KatolaZ wrote: > The package is now available in Devuan in "ascii-proposed" and > "experimental". Please test it extensively and report any issue on > bugs.devuan.org. > > @Andreas: please indicate if there are specific things/combintions to > be tested.

Re: [DNG] elogind available in experimental and ascii-proposed

2018-01-15 Thread Irrwahn
KatolaZ wrote on 15.01.2018 11:30: > Dear D1rs, > > as recently discussed, our Andreas Messer has worked on packaging > elogind in the last few days. elogind is a replacement for the > "logind" systemd component, maintained by the Gentoo folks, and should > in theory allow packages which need libp

[DNG] elogind available in experimental and ascii-proposed

2018-01-15 Thread KatolaZ
Dear D1rs, as recently discussed, our Andreas Messer has worked on packaging elogind in the last few days. elogind is a replacement for the "logind" systemd component, maintained by the Gentoo folks, and should in theory allow packages which need libpam-systemd and logind services to be installed