"T.J. Duchene" writes:
> On 08/08/2015 05:36 AM, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
>> to 'use of systemd', there are things which sound like they were to fear
>> more seriously, ie, the stated intention of at least one kernel
>> maintainer (Tejun Hejo, spelling probably wrong) that he wants to "break
>> user
On 08/08/2015 05:36 AM, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
to 'use of systemd', there are things which sound like they were to fear
more seriously, ie, the stated intention of at least one kernel
maintainer (Tejun Hejo, spelling probably wrong) that he wants to "break
userspace" in order to turn cgroups "i
"T.J. Duchene" writes:
> If I might add my two cents a few days late,
>
> I really do not think that kdbus matters overly much and that people
> (including myself in the past) have assigned too much concern to the topic.
> Kdbus is little more than an implementation of dbus, which is a fairly
If I might add my two cents a few days late,
I really do not think that kdbus matters overly much and that people
(including myself in the past) have assigned too much concern to the topic.
Kdbus is little more than an implementation of dbus, which is a fairly neutral
protocol. The concern o
tilt! writes:
[...]
> Rainer Weikusat wrote on 04/08/2015 at 12:57 CEST:
>> tilt! writes:
>> [...]
>> I nevertheless have to disagree with this somewhat: To a degree,
>> everything is a fad and people never intentionally further a bad
>> cause. That's why open discussion of ideas is important a
KatolaZ wrote 04/08/2015 at 14:22 CEST:
>> [...]
>> One one last note, I more generally think that in the wider field of
>> science, phenomena such as commercialization of research and "Duh
>> Science" are powered by similar mechanisms.
>
> And in fact I pointed out that deciding which facts are m
On Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 02:00:36PM +0200, tilt! wrote:
> Hello KatolaZ and Rainer,
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>
> Using the amount of contributions as a metric that decides over the
> influence an individual can exert in future decision-making of a project
> means discarding the fact that contributions can be "bloat
On Tue, 04 Aug 2015 11:57:15 +0100
Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> people never intentionally further a bad cause.
True, but beware that their perception of "a good cause" may be completely off
the wall.
The "final solution" in 1930's Germany comes to mind as an example of this...
Cheers,
Ron.
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Hello KatolaZ and Rainer,
I thank both of you for your replies and before anything else I would
like to state that I am someone who has accomplished next to no
mentionable contributions to free software at all.
What I do have is lots of project experience and even a little
background in research
tilt! writes:
[...]
>Short: A (scientific) meritocracy is vulnerable to (scientific) fads.
>
> Example #2: SystemD. Watch in amazement a software that is
> technically and scientifically unreasonable being amalgamated into
> a widely adopted industry standard by people who
On Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 12:09:31PM +0200, tilt! wrote:
> Hello there,
>
> KatolaZ wrote on 04/08/2015 at 09:36 CEST:
> >[...]
> >The free software community is probably one of the last truly
> >democratic and meritocratic social environments.
>
> While I appreciate your idealism a lot and am happ
Hello there,
KatolaZ wrote on 04/08/2015 at 09:36 CEST:
[...]
The free software community is probably one of the last truly
democratic and meritocratic social environments.
While I appreciate your idealism a lot and am happy to hear people still
(or again?) talk like that, I feel the urge to p
Le 03/08/2015 19:23, Steve Litt a écrit :
On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 16:00:27 +0200
Didier Kryn wrote:
Devuan is not opposed to kdbus, nor even to systemd. People here
want the freedom to not use systemd; they don't deny others the right
to use it, nor to use kdbus.
Devuan was created out of a
On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 02:34:52PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> I was of the impression, that to modify the kernel, a PhD was a must.
> I cannot be blamed for this impression, as I am an EU citizen, which
> has been agressively pushing for more qualifications of its work
> force. The extent of th
Edward Bartolo writes:
> To: Steve Litt
>
> I was angry because my apology was not accepted. Thanks for replying
> in a respectful way.
I probably shouldn't be writing this but "you do realize that referring
to other people as 'monsters' isn't exactly a good way to make them
respect you, do you?"
On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 02:34:52PM +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> I was of the impression, that to modify the kernel, a PhD was a must.
Where did you get such an impression? The only things you need to
modify the kernel are the ability to program in c, a sufficient
understanding of kernel internal
To: Steve Litt
I was angry because my apology was not accepted. Thanks for replying
in a respectful way.
Edward
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On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 01:23:30PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 16:00:27 +0200
> Didier Kryn wrote:
>
> > Devuan is not opposed to kdbus, nor even to systemd. People here
> > want the freedom to not use systemd; they don't deny others the right
> > to use it, nor to use kd
On Mon, 03 Aug 2015 16:00:27 +0200
Didier Kryn wrote:
> Devuan is not opposed to kdbus, nor even to systemd. People here
> want the freedom to not use systemd; they don't deny others the right
> to use it, nor to use kdbus.
Devuan was created out of a dislike of systemd. When you say "Peop
On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 11:27:52AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
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>
> Interesting! You are right! I misread a comma as a semicolon.
>
> I never thought of using commas this way. Now I get to wonder whether
> this way of eliminating brackets is clarifying or misleading. It
> misled me.
Quote: "JFTR: I was adressing the person who wrote the original mail (to come up
with something with more substance)."
I begged you pardon.
What are you, a monster without feelings?! At least, be decent to
accept my apology.
Edward.
On 03/08/2015, Hendrik Boom wrote:
On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 03:32:30PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> Hendrik Boom writes:
> > On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 01:14:16PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> [*] In case you want an example where this is at least debatable (and I
> >> happen to disgree with what he wrote on the t
Didier Kryn writes:
> Le 03/08/2015 14:14, Rainer Weikusat a écrit :
>> So, if you're (addressed to anyone) opposed to kdbus then please find a
>> better reason then "someone whom I'm a fan of once said ...".
>
> My point was: "The person who will decide to merge kdbus into the
> kernel or not
Hendrik Boom writes:
> On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 01:14:16PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
>
>>
>> [*] In case you want an example where this is at least debatable (and I
>> happen to disgree with what he wrote on the topic). The simplest way
>> to implement a block memory copy in C is
>
> C
Le 03/08/2015 14:14, Rainer Weikusat a écrit :
So, if you're (addressed to anyone) opposed to kdbus then please find a
better reason then "someone whom I'm a fan of once said ...".
My point was: "The person who will decide to merge kdbus into the
kernel or not is Linus Torwalds; therefore
On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 09:41:32AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 01:14:16PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
>
> >
> > [*] In case you want an example where this is at least debatable (and I
> > happen to disgree with what he wrote on the topic). The simplest way
> > t
On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 01:14:16PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
>
> [*] In case you want an example where this is at least debatable (and I
> happen to disgree with what he wrote on the topic). The simplest way
> to implement a block memory copy in C is
Correction:
>
> static void
I was of the impression, that to modify the kernel, a PhD was a must.
I cannot be blamed for this impression, as I am an EU citizen, which
has been agressively pushing for more qualifications of its work
force. The extent of this drive, is that anybody who holds no
qualificatios, is paid a misery c
Didier Kryn writes:
> Le 03/08/2015 12:03, Rainer Weikusat a écrit :
>> Edward Bartolo writes:
>>> I would like someone from Devuan to reply how Devuan DDs are going to
>>> rid the Linux kernel when kdbus becomes integrated in it. I am finding
>>> this latest news a heavy blow below the belt, as
Le 03/08/2015 12:03, Rainer Weikusat a écrit :
Edward Bartolo writes:
I would like someone from Devuan to reply how Devuan DDs are going to
rid the Linux kernel when kdbus becomes integrated in it. I am finding
this latest news a heavy blow below the belt, as the kernel is usually
reserved for
Edward Bartolo writes:
> I would like someone from Devuan to reply how Devuan DDs are going to
> rid the Linux kernel when kdbus becomes integrated in it. I am finding
> this latest news a heavy blow below the belt, as the kernel is usually
> reserved for highly qualified and highly skilled coders
Sir,
I would like someone from Devuan to reply how Devuan DDs are going to
rid the Linux kernel when kdbus becomes integrated in it. I am finding
this latest news a heavy blow below the belt, as the kernel is usually
reserved for highly qualified and highly skilled coders.
Thanks for your time
Sir,
I would like someone from Devuan to reply how Devuan DDs are going to
rid the Linux kernel when kdbus becomes integrated in it. I am finding
this latest news a heavy blow below the belt, as the kernel is usually
reserved for highly qualified and highly skilled coders.
Thanks for your time.
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