Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

Hi Steve, En 20 de junio de 2021 23:09:42 Steve Litt escribió: How can I download, compile and install *hopman* on my existing Void Linux computer? I have trouble with my network connection at home; so, a short comment from my mobile: After several failed attempts trying to build hopm

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

On 6/27/21 11:28 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: It is always been; sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and occasionally one of the upgrades will suggest sudo apr autoremove ..playing around with all the "apt family members" helps you find solutio

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

On Sun, 27 Jun 2021 00:18:41 +1000, terryc wrote in message <20210627001841.1966c...@dragonfly.woa.com.au>: > On Sat, 26 Jun 2021 13:33:56 +0200 > "d...@d404.nl" wrote: > > > > The right command is  apt full-upgrade. > > > > The main difference between full-upgrade and upgrade is > > full-upgra

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

On Sat, 26 Jun 2021 13:33:56 +0200 "d...@d404.nl" wrote: > On 26-06-2021 11:45, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 6:10 PM Patrick Bartek via Dng > > wrote: > >> On Fri, 25 Jun 2021 11:34:32 +0200 > >> Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: > >> > >>> On Tue 15/Jun/2021 20:41:0

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

On Sat, 26 Jun 2021 04:45:46 -0500 o1bigtenor wrote: > On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 6:10 PM Patrick Bartek via Dng > wrote: > > > > On Fri, 25 Jun 2021 11:34:32 +0200 > > Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: > > > > > On Tue 15/Jun/2021 20:41:09 +0200 Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: > > > > > > > > I

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

On 26-06-2021 11:45, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 6:10 PM Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: On Fri, 25 Jun 2021 11:34:32 +0200 Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: On Tue 15/Jun/2021 20:41:09 +0200 Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: I have found that each desktop uses its own method

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

On Sat, Jun 26, 2021 at 5:03 AM Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: > > On Sat 26/Jun/2021 11:45:46 +0200 o1bigtenor wrote: > > so you're suggesting the use of > > # apt update > > # apt full-grade > > or is that > > # apt full-upgrade? > > apt-get dist-upgrade? > Methinks that's something else a

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

On Sat 26/Jun/2021 11:45:46 +0200 o1bigtenor wrote: so you're suggesting the use of # apt update # apt full-grade or is that # apt full-upgrade? apt-get dist-upgrade? Best Ale -- ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://m

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

On Fri, Jun 25, 2021 at 6:10 PM Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: > > On Fri, 25 Jun 2021 11:34:32 +0200 > Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: > > > On Tue 15/Jun/2021 20:41:09 +0200 Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: > > > > > > I have found that each desktop uses its own method of automounting. > > > PCMan

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

On Fri, 25 Jun 2021 11:34:32 +0200 Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: > On Tue 15/Jun/2021 20:41:09 +0200 Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: > > > > I have found that each desktop uses its own method of automounting. > > PCManFM may have the mounting code built-in. Or it may use udiskie. > > Check PCMa

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

On Tue 15/Jun/2021 20:41:09 +0200 Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: I have found that each desktop uses its own method of automounting. PCManFM may have the mounting code built-in. Or it may use udiskie. Check PCManFM's dependencies and see if udiskie is listed. Did you install udiskie yourself? If

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

Le 23/06/2021 à 14:38, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp a écrit : > Anno domini 2021 Wed, 23 Jun 13:34:39 +0200 > Didier Kryn scripsit: >> Le 23/06/2021 à 12:49, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp a écrit : >>> Anno domini 2021 Wed, 23 Jun 12:16:50 +0200 >>> Didier Kryn scripsit: [...]     There is no other way to k

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

Anno domini 2021 Wed, 23 Jun 13:34:39 +0200 Didier Kryn scripsit: > Le 23/06/2021 à 12:49, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp a écrit : > > Anno domini 2021 Wed, 23 Jun 12:16:50 +0200 > > Didier Kryn scripsit: > >> [...] > >>     There is no other way to know which partitions are mounted or not > >> than read /p

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

Le 23/06/2021 à 12:49, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp a écrit : > Anno domini 2021 Wed, 23 Jun 12:16:50 +0200 > Didier Kryn scripsit: >> [...] >>     There is no other way to know which partitions are mounted or not >> than read /proc/self/mounts. inotify does not work on pseudo-filesystems >> like /sys or /p

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

Anno domini 2021 Wed, 23 Jun 12:16:50 +0200 Didier Kryn scripsit: > [...] >     There is no other way to know which partitions are mounted or not > than read /proc/self/mounts. inotify does not work on pseudo-filesystems > like /sys or /proc. Therefore, either this is done by the front-end or > by

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

Le 23/06/2021 à 11:50, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp a écrit : > Hi! > > Anno domini 2021 Wed, 23 Jun 00:00:11 +0200 > Didier Kryn scripsit: >> Le 22/06/2021 à 19:10, Steve Litt a écrit : >> [...] >>     Hopman-cli would write to the pipe 3 sorts of messages, with all the >> necessary details: >> >> - a devi

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

Hi! Anno domini 2021 Wed, 23 Jun 00:00:11 +0200 Didier Kryn scripsit: > Le 22/06/2021 à 19:10, Steve Litt a écrit : > [...] >     Hopman-cli would write to the pipe 3 sorts of messages, with all the > necessary details: > > - a device special file associated to a removable partition has been > d

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

Didier Kryn said on Wed, 23 Jun 2021 00:00:11 +0200 >Le 22/06/2021 à 19:10, Steve Litt a écrit : >> Didier Kryn said on Tue, 22 Jun 2021 18:00:17 +0200 >> >>> Le 22/06/2021 à 14:20, Steve Litt a écrit : >    Both Hopman-cli Let's call it Hopman-Backend. It shouldn't have to do any user inte

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

Le 22/06/2021 à 19:10, Steve Litt a écrit : > Didier Kryn said on Tue, 22 Jun 2021 18:00:17 +0200 > >> Le 22/06/2021 à 14:20, Steve Litt a écrit : >>> How bout making a CLI Hopman with an API somebody can interact with >>> in gtk, or CLI, or PHP, or Tcl/Tk, or Python/Tk, or pretty much >>> anything

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

Didier Kryn said on Tue, 22 Jun 2021 18:00:17 +0200 >Le 22/06/2021 à 14:20, Steve Litt a écrit : >> How bout making a CLI Hopman with an API somebody can interact with >> in gtk, or CLI, or PHP, or Tcl/Tk, or Python/Tk, or pretty much >> anything else? > >    I have thought of this initially be

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

Le 22/06/2021 à 14:20, Steve Litt a écrit : > aitor said on Tue, 22 Jun 2021 08:24:04 +0200 > >> Hi Steve, >> >> On 20/6/21 23:09, Steve Litt wrote: >>> Huh? The preceding link appears to be a whole distro. How can I >>> download, compile and install*hopman* on my existing Void Linux >>> computer?

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

aitor said on Tue, 22 Jun 2021 08:24:04 +0200 >Hi Steve, > >On 20/6/21 23:09, Steve Litt wrote: >> Huh? The preceding link appears to be a whole distro. How can I >> download, compile and install*hopman* on my existing Void Linux >> computer? > >The unique existent development files of gtk in V

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

Hi Steve, On 20/6/21 23:09, Steve Litt wrote: Huh? The preceding link appears to be a whole distro. How can I download, compile and install*hopman* on my existing Void Linux computer? The unique existent development files of gtk in Void Linux seem to be 3.24 or higher: http://54.37.137.89/

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

aitor said on Sun, 20 Jun 2021 03:27:49 +0200 >Hi Steve, > the current state of vdev is stableenough for daily >use. You can download the image from here: > >https://www.gnuinos.org/Beowulf/ Huh? The preceding link appears to be a whole distro. How can I downloa

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

Hi Steve, On 12/6/21 21:29, Steve Litt wrote: If there are missing symlinks in /dev/disk, why not fix that root cause and let the inotify authors worry about different device handlers, rather than base your program logic on something the systemd people can change any time, possibly forcing vdev

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

On Thu, 17 Jun 2021 09:04:06 +0200 al3xu5 wrote: > Tue, 15 Jun 2021 11:41:09 -0700 - Patrick Bartek > : > > > On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 17:59:24 +0200 > > al3xu5 wrote: > > > > > [...] > > > I have openbox+lxde & PCManFM: usb drives are automatically > > > mounted (by udisks2) and are shown and us

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

Tue, 15 Jun 2021 11:41:09 -0700 - Patrick Bartek : > On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 17:59:24 +0200 > al3xu5 wrote: > > > [...] > > I have openbox+lxde & PCManFM: usb drives are automatically mounted > > (by udisks2) and are shown and usable (open and umount) thanks to > > PCManFM. > > > > I have also udis

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 12:32:25 -0700 Fred wrote: > On 6/15/21 11:28 AM, Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: > > On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 07:56:39 -0700 > > Fred wrote: > > > >> On 6/13/21 9:37 PM, Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: > > > >>> [big snip] > >> Hi, > >> I found udisks2 installed

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

On 6/15/21 1:24 PM, g4sra via Dng wrote: <--snip--> Unfortunately I am not able to find what package contains gvfs-udisks2-vo. <--snip--> apt-file search gvfs-udisks2-vo gvfs-daemons: /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor gvfs-daemons: /usr/lib/systemd/user/gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor.servi

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

<--snip--> > Unfortunately I am not able to find what package contains gvfs-udisks2-vo. <--snip--> apt-file search gvfs-udisks2-vo gvfs-daemons: /usr/lib/gvfs/gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor gvfs-daemons: /usr/lib/systemd/user/gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor.service publickey - g4sra@protonmail.com - 0x42

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

On 6/15/21 12:32 PM, Fred wrote: On 6/15/21 11:28 AM, Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 07:56:39 -0700 Fred wrote: On 6/13/21 9:37 PM, Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: [big snip] Hi, I found udisks2 installed on the computer that automatically mounts USB devices but there is

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

On 6/15/21 11:28 AM, Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 07:56:39 -0700 Fred wrote: On 6/13/21 9:37 PM, Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: [big snip] Hi, I found udisks2 installed on the computer that automatically mounts USB devices but there is no man page so I would not know ho

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem and new challenge of Wifi Machine

Patrick Bartek via Dng said on Tue, 15 Jun 2021 11:28:14 -0700 >What desktop was the Jessie computer running before your dist-upgrade >to Beowulf? And after? Many times desktops have their own way of >handling automounting usb devices. Desktops having their own way of handling usb device automou

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 17:59:24 +0200 al3xu5 wrote: > Sun, 13 Jun 2021 21:37:45 -0700 - Patrick Bartek > : > > > [...] > > > I did some checking -- It's been a while since I installed Beowulf > > and udisks2 -- and I discovered that you need to use a "front end" > > for udisks2 for it to truly a

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 07:56:39 -0700 Fred wrote: > On 6/13/21 9:37 PM, Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: > > [big snip] > Hi, > I found udisks2 installed on the computer that automatically > mounts USB devices but there is no man page so I would not know > how to use it

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

Sun, 13 Jun 2021 21:37:45 -0700 - Patrick Bartek : > [...] > I did some checking -- It's been a while since I installed Beowulf and > udisks2 -- and I discovered that you need to use a "front end" for > udisks2 for it to truly automount. I used udiskie > (https://pypi.org/project/udiskie/) which

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

On 6/13/21 9:37 PM, Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 12:37:00 -0700 Fred wrote: On 6/11/21 7:05 AM, Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 17:37:13 -0700 Fred wrote: On 6/10/21 1:48 PM, Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 08:49:24 -0700 Fred w

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 12:37:00 -0700 Fred wrote: > On 6/11/21 7:05 AM, Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 17:37:13 -0700 > > Fred wrote: > > > >> On 6/10/21 1:48 PM, Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: > >>> On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 08:49:24 -0700 > >>> Fred wrote: > >>> >

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

On 6/13/21 4:24 PM, g4sra via Dng wrote: <--snip--> The udisksd man page says the daemon is started by dbus-daemon or systemd. However, it is not started by inserting a USB device. tried starting it manually (with USB device inserted) and received this: root@aragog:/home/fred# /usr/

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

<--snip--> > > > > > > The udisksd man page says the daemon is started by dbus-daemon or > > > systemd. However, it is not started by inserting a USB device. > > > tried starting it manually (with USB device inserted) and received > > > this: > > > > > > root@aragog:/home/fred# /usr/lib/udi

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

On 6/13/21 1:01 PM, tito via Dng wrote: On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 12:37:00 -0700 Fred wrote: On 6/11/21 7:05 AM, Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 17:37:13 -0700 Fred wrote: On 6/10/21 1:48 PM, Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 08:49:24 -0700 Fred wrote: H

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 12:37:00 -0700 Fred wrote: > On 6/11/21 7:05 AM, Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 17:37:13 -0700 > > Fred wrote: > > > >> On 6/10/21 1:48 PM, Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: > >>> On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 08:49:24 -0700 > >>> Fred wrote: > >>> > Hello

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

On 6/11/21 7:05 AM, Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 17:37:13 -0700 Fred wrote: On 6/10/21 1:48 PM, Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 08:49:24 -0700 Fred wrote: Hello, I have a new Beowulf AMD64 install and am having trouble mounting USB storage devices

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

On 12/6/21 22:27, aitor wrote: I've just pushed the changes to gitea.devuan.dev. Look at the lines 107-112 in worker.cpp [*]. Yes, I'm using inotify :) This is the link to the gui: https://gitea.devuan.dev/aitor_czr/hopman/src/branch/master/hopman-1.0/gtkmm

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

Hi, On 12/6/21 22:22, Didier Kryn wrote:     I was never able to understand the ABI of libudev, due to the absence of a manual. I have a great admiration for Jude and you to have understood it. I will have a look at libudev-monitor.c . Nevertheless, and whatever the method used (netlink for lib

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

Hi Steve, On 12/6/21 21:29, Steve Litt wrote: Hi Aitor, Inotify is the Linux-official way of finding device events. As far as I know, inotify doesn't care whether you use udev, eudev or vdev, which in my opinion makes it superior. I'd prefer not to have a Hopman with all sorts of logic if vdev,

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

Le 12/06/2021 à 20:59, aitor a écrit : > > Hi Didier, > > On 12/6/21 19:42, Didier Kryn wrote: >>     Hello. >> >>     My aproach with Hopman was to be totally independant of the >> hotplugger (udev/eudev/vdev/mdev, even systemd) provided it does the >> job, which is to create the device special fi

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

aitor said on Sat, 12 Jun 2021 00:46:08 +0200 >Thanks, Steve, it's named Hopman. A project started by Didier Kryn. At >the beginning my point of view was quite different >because, on the contrary than Didier's design, i didn't use inotify to >become aware of any kernel uevent. The reason why >

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

On 12/6/21 13:01, aitor wrote: This is exactly what i was talking about when saying "... to create vdev actions for each (ADD|REMOVE|CHANGE) device event". The BIND action doesn't exist due to the removal of the netlink connection mentioned above. Indeed, the README.md file says that eventfs i

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

On 12/6/21 12:47, aitor wrote: On 12/6/21 12:22, aitor wrote: Hi again, On 12/6/21 0:46, aitor wrote: Now i'm considering as a possible better approach to create vdev actions for each (ADD|REMOVE|CHANGE) In the case of eudev, kernel uevents can be listen by "udevadm monitor". We should di

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

On 12/6/21 12:22, aitor wrote: Hi again, On 12/6/21 0:46, aitor wrote: Now i'm considering as a possible better approach to create vdev actions for each (ADD|REMOVE|CHANGE) In the case of eudev, kernel uevents can be listen by "udevadm monitor". We should distinguish here between two diffe

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

Hi again, On 12/6/21 0:46, aitor wrote: Now i'm considering as a possible better approach to create vdev actions for each (ADD|REMOVE|CHANGE) In the case of eudev, kernel uevents can be listen by "udevadm monitor". Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

Hi, On 11/6/21 23:04, Steve Litt wrote: As I remember, Aitor created a really nice flash drive mounter. Does anyone remember it? Thanks, Steve, it's named Hopman. A project started by Didier Kryn. At the beginning my point of view was quite different because, on the contrary than Didier's desig

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

Fred said on Thu, 10 Jun 2021 17:37:13 -0700 >> >> I use udisks2 to automount external USB devices. >> >> B >> ___ >> Dng mailing list >> Dng@lists.dyne.org >> https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng >> >Hi, >I found udisks2 inst

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Friday, June 11th, 2021 at 2:58 PM, Fred wrote: > On 6/10/21 11:29 PM, Stefan Krusche wrote: <--snip--> > > I did find the man page for udisks. I will study that and the article > for autofs. Likely one of them will work fine. The intended use 'autofs' is f

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 17:37:13 -0700 Fred wrote: > On 6/10/21 1:48 PM, Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 08:49:24 -0700 > > Fred wrote: > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> I have a new Beowulf AMD64 install and am having trouble mounting > >> USB storage devices. > >> > >> The USB key

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

On 6/10/21 11:29 PM, Stefan Krusche wrote: Hi Fred, Am Freitag, 11. Juni 2021 schrieb Fred: I found udisks2 installed on the computer that automatically mounts USB devices but there is no man page so I would not know how to use it if installed on the other computer. You can find man pages li

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

Hi Fred, Am Freitag, 11. Juni 2021 schrieb Fred: > I found udisks2 installed on the computer that automatically mounts > USB devices but there is no man page so I would not know how to use > it if installed on the other computer. You can find man pages like this: $ apropos udisks udisks (8)

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

On 6/10/21 1:48 PM, Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 08:49:24 -0700 Fred wrote: Hello, I have a new Beowulf AMD64 install and am having trouble mounting USB storage devices. The USB keyboard and mouse work ok. lsusb shows the storage device is present. The usbmount program

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 13:06:07 -0700 Fred wrote: > On 6/10/21 10:01 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 08:49:24 -0700, Fred wrote in message > > : > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> I have a new Beowulf AMD64 install and am having trouble mounting > >> USB storage devices. > >> > >> The USB

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 08:49:24 -0700 Fred wrote: > Hello, > > I have a new Beowulf AMD64 install and am having trouble mounting USB > storage devices. > > The USB keyboard and mouse work ok. lsusb shows the storage device > is present. The usbmount program is apparently no longer available > a

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

On 6/10/21 10:01 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 08:49:24 -0700, Fred wrote in message : Hello, I have a new Beowulf AMD64 install and am having trouble mounting USB storage devices. The USB keyboard and mouse work ok. lsusb shows the storage device is present. The usbmount prog

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 08:49:24 -0700, Fred wrote in message : > Hello, > > I have a new Beowulf AMD64 install and am having trouble mounting USB > storage devices. > > The USB keyboard and mouse work ok. lsusb shows the storage device > is present. The usbmount program is apparently no longer

[DNG] USB mount problem

Hello, I have a new Beowulf AMD64 install and am having trouble mounting USB storage devices. The USB keyboard and mouse work ok. lsusb shows the storage device is present. The usbmount program is apparently no longer available and I haven't been able to find what took its place. I have a