Le 11/08/2017 à 10:07, Narcis Garcia a écrit :
Something has to be done (written)
As you know, once everything has been /done/ and everything has
been /written/, there is always more /written/ than /done/ :-)
Nevertheless, let me /write/ the current status of my personnal
cogitati
El 11/08/17 a les 07:43, Didier Kryn ha escrit:
> Le 10/08/2017 à 16:22, Jamey Fletcher a écrit :
>>> Le 09/08/2017 à 22:46, Joel Roth a écrit :
>>> Despite what the author claims, this series of pages isn't about
>>> init. It is mostly about supervision and a little about containers. It
>>>
On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 07:43:42 +0200
Didier Kryn wrote:
> I thing you're taking me wrong. I don't claim I know the matter
> better that the author. He studied all these supervisors in some
> detail; I didn't. I just say he failed to explain things in an
> educative way - and it seems to me d
Le 10/08/2017 à 16:22, Jamey Fletcher a écrit :
Le 09/08/2017 à 22:46, Joel Roth a écrit :
Despite what the author claims, this series of pages isn't about
init. It is mostly about supervision and a little about containers. It
assumes both are usefull, with no argumentation to motivate supe
Jaromil - 09.08.17, 09:16:
> On Tue, 08 Aug 2017, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > Adam Borowski - 08.08.17, 18:57:
> > > On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 11:53:56AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > > > Be careful recommending cgroups.
> > > >
> > > > I've never used them, and know little about them, but I know t
T
On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 10:46:31 -1000
Joel Roth wrote:
>
> Edward Bartolo wrote:
> > Using this 'resource' will do a disservice to Devuan. Anyone serious
> > enough to read it will get the wrong impression that Devuan is some
> > 'amateur' distribution not worthy of wasting professional hours on
On Thu, 10 Aug 2017 09:22:38 -0500
"Jamey Fletcher" wrote:
> Take what he's written, add in your thoughts, more clearly specify the
> differences between inits, supervisors, hypervisors, and containers,
> and write up your own explanation.
This will probably fail due to a lack of agreed upon d
> Le 09/08/2017 à 22:46, Joel Roth a écrit :
> Despite what the author claims, this series of pages isn't about
> init. It is mostly about supervision and a little about containers. It
> assumes both are usefull, with no argumentation to motivate supervision.
> Confusion about init, supervisi
Le 09/08/2017 à 22:46, Joel Roth a écrit :
Edward,
I think that any articles that interest people in
exploring this part of their Linux systems can only
be good.
Edward Bartolo wrote:
Using this 'resource' will do a disservice to Devuan. Anyone serious
enough to read it will get the wrong impr
Edward,
I think that any articles that interest people in
exploring this part of their Linux systems can only
be good.
Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Using this 'resource' will do a disservice to Devuan. Anyone serious
> enough to read it will get the wrong impression that Devuan is some
> 'amateur' d
On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 10:16:46 +0200
Narcis Garcia wrote:
> El 09/08/17 a les 09:13, Edward Bartolo ha escrit:
> > Using this 'resource' will do a disservice to Devuan. Anyone serious
> > enough to read it will get the wrong impression that Devuan is some
> > 'amateur' distribution not worthy of was
El 09/08/17 a les 09:13, Edward Bartolo ha escrit:
> Using this 'resource' will do a disservice to Devuan. Anyone serious
> enough to read it will get the wrong impression that Devuan is some
> 'amateur' distribution not worthy of wasting professional hours on it.
> Scientific and technical text mu
On Tue, 08 Aug 2017, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Adam Borowski - 08.08.17, 18:57:
> > On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 11:53:56AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > > Be careful recommending cgroups.
> > >
> > > I've never used them, and know little about them, but I know they were
> > > one of the main excuses
Using this 'resource' will do a disservice to Devuan. Anyone serious
enough to read it will get the wrong impression that Devuan is some
'amateur' distribution not worthy of wasting professional hours on it.
Scientific and technical text must at all costs avoid opinionated
writing but this resource
Adam Borowski - 08.08.17, 18:57:
> On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 11:53:56AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > Be careful recommending cgroups.
> >
> > I've never used them, and know little about them, but I know they were
> > one of the main excuses for systemd.
>
> Uhm, what? Systemd uses ELF objects too,
On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 11:53:56AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> Be careful recommending cgroups.
>
> I've never used them, and know little about them, but I know they were
> one of the main excuses for systemd.
Uhm, what? Systemd uses ELF objects too, should we go with a.out for this
reason?
cgro
Me neither.
I found the "7 part series" amazingly content free, and certainly not
very technical.
First off, it wasn't about init systems, it was about supervisors (in
fairness, it didn't actually purport to be about init systems).
Second, nowhere did it actually talk about, in detail, wha
I had a look at the text and was not impressed at all. My criticism
is: it is written like some private correspondence instead of
technical objective text. Someone writing technical text must be
objective, scientific, accurate and concise.
___
Dng mailing
On Tue, 8 Aug 2017 11:11:20 +0200
Jaromil wrote:
> what I bring home after reading this is the idea of a supervisor that
> manages cgroups and LXC containers in a simple way and, to inherit
> some standardised work being done in systemd, supports its service
> units.
Be careful recommending cgr
On Mon, 07 Aug 2017 17:25:16 -0500
goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> On 2017-08-07 16:41, Joel Roth wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just came across this seven-part series of articles on
> > supervisors and init systems:
> >
> > https://blog.afoolishmanifesto.com/tags/supervisors/
>
> [snip]
>
> Will be i
dear Joel,
On Mon, 07 Aug 2017, Joel Roth wrote:
> I just came across this seven-part series of articles on
> supervisors and init systems:
>
> https://blog.afoolishmanifesto.com/tags/supervisors/
thanks for the link.
the author still misses important points in lacking an analysis of
openRC
Very good comments to be ported to Devuan's documentation.
El 07/08/17 a les 23:41, Joel Roth ha escrit:
> Hi,
>
> I just came across this seven-part series of articles on
> supervisors and init systems:
>
> https://blog.afoolishmanifesto.com/tags/supervisors/
>
> (...)
Good script. Nowadays you might need to do something to the font-weight
property as well.
Ralph.
Joel Roth wrote on 08/08/17 07:41:
Hi,
I just came across this seven-part series of articles on
supervisors and init systems:
https://blog.afoolishmanifesto.com/tags/supervisors/
I only had time
On 2017-08-07 16:41, Joel Roth wrote:
Hi,
I just came across this seven-part series of articles on
supervisors and init systems:
https://blog.afoolishmanifesto.com/tags/supervisors/
[snip]
Cheers,
Joel
Will be interested to see what Stev
Hi,
I just came across this seven-part series of articles on
supervisors and init systems:
https://blog.afoolishmanifesto.com/tags/supervisors/
I only had time for a brief look, but it seems well written
by someone who actually uses most of the software he's
reviewing.
As an aside, for those wh
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