Re: [DNG] Systemd at work: rm -rf EFI

2016-02-02 Thread fsmithred
On 02/02/2016 08:05 AM, Simon Hobson wrote: > Exposing my ignorance here, what would need to write to the EFI stuff ? That > article quotes someone as saying mounting it read-only would break some > userspace stuff - so what would it break and why does it need to write there ? > Not having actual

Re: [DNG] Systemd at work: rm -rf EFI

2016-02-02 Thread Massimo Coppola
Hi all, an occasional rant from you humble almost-lurker. From: Rainer Weikusat In all seriousness, what is the guy supposed to do if some less-than-informed person accidentally deletes something he'd better Let's not lose the point: while stupidly issuing rm -rf / was possibly intention

Re: [DNG] Systemd at work: rm -rf EFI

2016-02-02 Thread John Crisp
On 02/02/16 15:51, Steve Litt wrote: > > Poettering's final post reminds me so much of Don Armstrong on > Debian-User. "My way or the highway, no further discussion!" > LOL.. me too :-) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ D

Re: [DNG] Systemd at work: rm -rf EFI

2016-02-02 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Edward Bartolo writes: > This is enough evidence to be very vigilant where an OS uses systemd. > Breaking hardware is a very serious issue, will not fix is not acceptable > as a responsible reply. In all seriousness, what is the guy supposed to do if some less-than-informed person accidentally de

Re: [DNG] Systemd at work: rm -rf EFI

2016-02-02 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 2 Feb 2016 10:49:10 +0100 Jaromil wrote: > On Tue, 02 Feb 2016, Wim wrote: > > >[2]https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/2402 > >Well, you've probably guessed the answer - Won't fix. > > meanwhile, on the background, the usual bullying goes on among the > systemd hooligans

Re: [DNG] Systemd at work: rm -rf EFI

2016-02-02 Thread Edward Bartolo
This is enough evidence to be very vigilant where an OS uses systemd. Breaking hardware is a very serious issue, will not fix is not acceptable as a responsible reply. On Feb 2, 2016 2:25 PM, "Rainer Weikusat" wrote: > Jaromil writes: > > On Tue, 02 Feb 2016, Wim wrote: > > > >>[2]https://gi

Re: [DNG] Systemd at work: rm -rf EFI

2016-02-02 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Jaromil writes: > On Tue, 02 Feb 2016, Wim wrote: > >>[2]https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/2402 >>Well, you've probably guessed the answer - Won't fix. > > meanwhile, on the background, the usual bullying goes on among the > systemd hooligans, sarcastically liquidating the concern

Re: [DNG] Systemd at work: rm -rf EFI

2016-02-02 Thread Simon Hobson
Jaromil wrote: > meanwhile, on the background, the usual bullying goes on among the > systemd hooligans, sarcastically liquidating the concern with some > cynical remarks, as if it would be a deserved punition for users > caught into a bricked laptop rather than an erased filesystem: > > http://

Re: [DNG] Systemd at work: rm -rf EFI

2016-02-02 Thread Jaromil
On Tue, 02 Feb 2016, Wim wrote: >[2]https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/2402 >Well, you've probably guessed the answer - Won't fix. meanwhile, on the background, the usual bullying goes on among the systemd hooligans, sarcastically liquidating the concern with some cynical remarks,

Re: [DNG] Systemd at work: rm -rf EFI

2016-02-01 Thread Clarke Sideroad
On 02/01/2016 08:59 PM, Clarke Sideroad wrote: > On 02/01/2016 06:12 PM, Wim wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> It seems you can delete EFI vars if you're not careful. Someone found >> that executing "rm -rf --no-preserve-root /" also deleted EFI vars, >> turning his MSI Notebook into a brick. >> >> It also

Re: [DNG] Systemd at work: rm -rf EFI

2016-02-01 Thread Clarke Sideroad
On 02/01/2016 06:12 PM, Wim wrote: > Hi all, > > It seems you can delete EFI vars if you're not careful. Someone found > that executing "rm -rf --no-preserve-root /" also deleted EFI vars, > turning his MSI Notebook into a brick. > > It also seems mounting these is hardcoded into systemd: > > h

[DNG] Systemd at work: rm -rf EFI

2016-02-01 Thread Wim
Hi all, It seems you can delete EFI vars if you're not careful. Someone found that executing "rm -rf --no-preserve-root /" also deleted EFI vars, turning his MSI Notebook into a brick. It also seems mounting these is hardcoded into systemd: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=207549 efib