On 30/12/2019 21:53, fsmithred via Dng wrote:
On 12/29/19 10:46 PM, tom wrote:
I know Devuan has been pretty much more or less 'to create a binary
compatible Debian but without systemd', but at what point would it be
determined that the best course of action may be to leave Debian behind
and
On 28/12/2019 15:26, Clarke Sideroad via Dng wrote:
On 2019-12-28 5:03 a.m., Alexis PM via Dng wrote:
My comments:
A mediocre result, neither good nor bad.
The best option for people who don't want to use systemd, Option 6
"E: Support for multiple init systems is Required", came in last.
But
On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 14:38:53 -0800
spiralofhope wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 13:46:12 -0500
> Steve Litt wrote:
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> > What happens if Debian stops supporting sysvinit, or worse, installs
> > Halloween Code to greatly complicate systemd replacement?
>
> I wasn't familiar with the term "Hallowe
On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 13:46:12 -0500
Steve Litt wrote:
> What happens if Debian stops supporting sysvinit, or worse, installs
> Halloween Code to greatly complicate systemd replacement?
I wasn't familiar with the term "Halloween Code". Is this a reference
to Microsoft's internal strategy memorand
Switching base is not possible so long as people like me don't
contribute to the development. So, it is not an option. Maybe when
enough people jump in and start helping the current current developers
it could be done.
From my point of view, as a sysadmin, Jessie being 2 years late was no
biggie,
>Many years ago, on this mailing list, one of the VUAs mentioned that
>the long term plan was to leave Debian behind and become the Devuan
>independent distro.
I am sorry to burst the soap bubble, I want Devuan to persist and that requires
a realistic analysis. Cleaning up systemd dependencies t
On 12/31/19 7:46 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 17:00:39 + (UTC)
Alexis PM via Dng wrote:
>Many years ago, on this mailing list, one of the VUAs mentioned that
the long term plan was to leave Debian behind and become the Devuan
independent distro.
I am sorry to burst the
On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 17:00:39 + (UTC)
Alexis PM via Dng wrote:
> >Many years ago, on this mailing list, one of the VUAs mentioned that
> >the long term plan was to leave Debian behind and become the Devuan
> >independent distro.
>
>
> I am sorry to burst the soap bubble, I want Devuan to
>Many years ago, on this mailing list, one of the VUAs mentioned that
>the long term plan was to leave Debian behind and become the Devuan
>independent distro.
I am sorry to burst the soap bubble, I want Devuan to persist and that requires
a realistic analysis. Cleaning up systemd dependencies
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On 31/12/19 7:46 am, Steve Litt wrote:
> I didn't hear anyone telling people what to do. I heard Tom ask a
> question.
Tom? I think you meant me ?
Cheers
A
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On 12/29/19 10:46 PM, tom wrote:
I know Devuan has been pretty much more or less 'to create a binary
compatible Debian but without systemd', but at what point would it be
determined that the best course of action may be to leave Debian behind
and continue our own way? Probably won't happen any t
On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 15:10:46 +1100
terryc wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 23:11:16 +1100
> Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote:
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> > On 28/12/19 9:03 pm, Alexis PM via Dng wrote:
> > > A mediocre result, neither good nor bad.
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On 30/12/19 3:10 pm, terryc wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 23:11:16 +1100 Andrew McGlashan via Dng
> wrote: In my experience, when people who do
> not do the work start telling the people who do do the work, what
> to do, many efforts disintigrate.
On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 23:11:16 +1100
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> On 28/12/19 9:03 pm, Alexis PM via Dng wrote:
> > A mediocre result, neither good nor bad. The best option for people
> > who don't want to use systemd, Option 6 "E
On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 23:11:16 +1100
Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote:
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> On 28/12/19 9:03 pm, Alexis PM via Dng wrote:
> > A mediocre result, neither good nor bad. The best option for people
> > who don't want to use systemd, Option 6 "E
On 2019-12-28 5:03 a.m., Alexis PM via Dng wrote:
My comments:
A mediocre result, neither good nor bad.
The best option for people who don't want to use systemd, Option 6 "E:
Support for multiple init systems is Required", came in last.
But Option 1 "F: Focus on systemd" came in second place, i
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On 28/12/19 9:03 pm, Alexis PM via Dng wrote:
> A mediocre result, neither good nor bad. The best option for people
> who don't want to use systemd, Option 6 "E: Support for multiple
> init systems is Required", came in last. But Option 1 "F: Fo
My comments:
A mediocre result, neither good nor bad.
The best option for people who don't want to use systemd, Option 6 "E: Support
for multiple init systems is Required", came in last.
But Option 1 "F: Focus on systemd" came in second place, if it had won it would
have been a tragedy.
We re
Result of the Debian vote
'General Resolution: Init systems and systemd'
https://www.debian.org/vote/2019/vote_002
The voting period ended on Friday 2019-12-27 23:59:59 UTC
Result
https://vote.debian.org/~secretary/gr_initsystems/results.txt
The winners are:
Option 2 "B: Systemd but we suppor
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