Re: [DNG] Interesting comment from a kernel developer

2015-08-17 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 11:35:15PM +0930, Arthur Marsh wrote: > >deb http://angband.pl/debian nosystemd main > >deb http://angband.pl/debian nosystemd-stretch main > > Are you able to build the *pulse* 6.0.5 packages please? Done. Untested (I use pure ALSA, despite having two sound cards

Re: [DNG] Interesting comment from a kernel developer

2015-08-17 Thread Arthur Marsh
Adam Borowski wrote on 23/07/15 07:45: On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 03:03:55PM -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote: Yes, Debian has adopted systemd. As a quick fix, you can stick with Wheezy; or you can install Jessie and then install systemd-shim and sysvinit. After you install systemd-shim and sysvinit, Je

Re: [DNG] Interesting comment from a kernel developer

2015-08-06 Thread Arthur Marsh
Adam Borowski wrote on 23/07/15 07:45: systemd-shim still means systemd. Devuan is supposed to fix this, but in the meantime -- or if you prefer staying with Debian proper -- you can use my repository of deinfested packages: jessie: deb http://angband.pl/debian nosystemd main unstable/stre

Re: [DNG] Interesting comment from a kernel developer

2015-07-22 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 03:03:55PM -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote: > Yes, Debian has adopted systemd. As a quick fix, you can stick with > Wheezy; or you can install Jessie and then install systemd-shim and > sysvinit. After you install systemd-shim and sysvinit, Jessie should work > more or less as e

Re: [DNG] Interesting comment from a kernel developer

2015-07-22 Thread T.J. Duchene
From: Dng [mailto:dng-boun...@lists.dyne.org] On Behalf Of Michelle Konzack Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 3:17 PM Cc: dng@lists.dyne.org Subject: Re: [DNG] Interesting comment from a kernel developer No, I have made the distupgrade release by release and checked, whether anything was working

Re: [DNG] Interesting comment from a kernel developer

2015-07-22 Thread Michelle Konzack
uesday, July 21, 2015 11:55 PM > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Subject: Re: [DNG] Interesting comment from a kernel developer > > Hello *, > > 2015-07-22 3:07 GMT+02:00 Go Linux : > What is this about 'baroque init scripts' and wanting to have only ONE > option?

Re: [DNG] Interesting comment from a kernel developer

2015-07-22 Thread T.J. Duchene
From: Dng [mailto:dng-boun...@lists.dyne.org] On Behalf Of Michelle Konzack Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 11:55 PM To: dng@lists.dyne.org Subject: Re: [DNG] Interesting comment from a kernel developer Hello *, 2015-07-22 3:07 GMT+02:00 Go Linux : What is this about 'baroque init scripts

Re: [DNG] Interesting comment from a kernel developer

2015-07-21 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello *, 2015-07-22 3:07 GMT+02:00 Go Linux : > What is this about 'baroque init scripts' and wanting to have only ONE > option? Rather prescient in light of where we are now . . . > This mean, Debian has droped anything and now users AND developers have to bother with crappy "systemd". Some

[DNG] Interesting comment from a kernel developer

2015-07-21 Thread Go Linux
Just ran across this interview from 2011: https://raphaelhertzog.com/2011/12/13/people-behind-debian-ben-hutchings-member-of-the-kernel-team/ Tucked away at the end was this quote: Raphael: What’s the biggest problem of Debian? Ben: I think we try too hard to accommodate every possible option,