Re: [DNG] GNOME3 and Co.

2016-01-05 Thread Mitt Green
>I'm sure M$ has a good answer to this question. >And GNOME has a registry, too, which is a very good thing to have, I was told >;-) Xfce has it as well but it is far from Windows' registry (though I am not familiar with Windows at all), it is simply a programme to manage XML configuration files

Re: [DNG] GNOME3 and Co.

2016-01-04 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Am Montag, 4. Januar 2016 schrieb Mitt Green: > I don't really understand, why a desktop environment > depends on a initialisation system. I'm sure M$ has a good answer to this question. And GNOME has a registry, too, which is a very good thing to have, I was told ;-) > GNOME3 is by the way a

Re: [DNG] GNOME3 and Co.

2016-01-04 Thread Mitt Green
Bryan Baldwin wrote: >...does have dependencies on Gentoo's default init >system, OpenRC, and some other bits and >pieces. I don't really understand, why a desktop environment depends on a initialisation system. >But, if there were a desire within Devuan >to package GNOME 3, this could be a good

Re: [DNG] GNOME3 and Co.

2016-01-04 Thread Bryan Baldwin
On 01/05/2016 06:26 AM, Mitt Green wrote: > Yours truly wrote: > > >I think that Gentoo people (and Funtoo) don't experience problems we > have, like > >patches, messed and missed dependencies that change over and over; > >I mean, their packaging system is simpler. > > Most of the time the problem

Re: [DNG] GNOME3 and Co.

2016-01-04 Thread Mitt Green
Yours truly wrote: >I think that Gentoo people (and Funtoo) don't experience problems we have, like >patches, messed and missed dependencies that change over and over; >I mean, their packaging system is simpler. Most of the time the problem is package maintainers that use horrible dependencies,

Re: [DNG] GNOME3 and Co.

2016-01-04 Thread Mitt Green
Bryan Baldwin wrote: >Gentoo lovers have already been using this patchset to keep GNOME 3 >systemd-less. >It would be great to get an even larger part of the systemd-free community >behind this project. >I'd love to see Devuan GNOME 3 packages :) I think that Gentoo people (and Funtoo) don't exp

Re: [DNG] GNOME3 and Co.

2016-01-03 Thread Bryan Baldwin
On 01/04/2016 08:39 AM, Mitt Green wrote: > Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > >I want to point out, that TDE is very configurable (which cannot be said > >from GNOME 2/3), > >and kmail is the best mail client with maildir support available. > > My personal problems with TDE: > - it's a Qt DE; > - it's

Re: [DNG] GNOME3 and Co.

2016-01-03 Thread Mitt Green
Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: >I want to point out, that TDE is very configurable (which cannot be said from >GNOME 2/3), >and kmail is the best mail client with maildir support available. My personal problems with TDE: - it's a Qt DE; - it's ugly; - it's waaay too configurable, with own settings di

Re: [DNG] GNOME3 and Co.

2016-01-03 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Am Sonntag, 3. Januar 2016 schrieb Mitt Green: > [...] > By the way, TDE (trinitydesktop.org) does not > need systemd to run, and was working > great in my installation, they have builds for > Stable and Testing/Unstable. And even complete > and bloated setup has much less packages > comparing to G

[DNG] GNOME3 and Co.

2016-01-03 Thread Mitt Green
Well, the list is named Debian (Devuan?) is Not GNOME, still, what are the plans towards it? I have been playing with Debian GNOME3 installation but upgrading from Stable to Unstable was a disaster, APT wanted to remove everything from the system, including systemd, even though it didn't know Devu