On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 11:31:58AM -0800, spiralofhope wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 03:01:22 -0500
> Steve Litt wrote:
>
> > Predatory Interdependency
>
> This language reminds me of the old Microsoft "Embrace, extend, and
> extinguish"[1] topic.
>
Another phrase I like is "strategic incompete
On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 03:01:22 -0500
Steve Litt wrote:
> Predatory Interdependency
This language reminds me of the old Microsoft "Embrace, extend, and
extinguish"[1] topic.
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[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish
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Dn
Quoting freemedia via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> gee rick, ive read this over and over to try to find something useful
> in it,
I'm dreadfully sorry my comments fell short of your needs. (You may
return them under warranty.)
> and i suspect what you were trying to say is "less is more"
Not ev
> Since you mention that, I'm really surprised you managed to write a
long, long screed on that subject that nowhere even mentions
Montesquieu.
> (Of course, your concern wasn't about government structure but rather,
er, some highly abstract, yet very verbose, ideological point.)
gee rick, ive
Quoting freemedia via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org):
> ive written about this in more detail here:
> http://techrights.org/2019/12/15/us-constitution-fsd-usc/ it uses the
> american constitution as an example, though everybody knows the
> american one borrows a LOT of ideas from across the pond.
Since
g4sra wrote:
> FOSS and the FSF have not lived up to my expectations, my fault for expecting
> too much.
> I am now pinning my hopes on the future growth of FFS (Five Freedoms
> Software).
glad to have you aboard, g4sra.
i believe jaromil likes this as well, i certainly dont expect him to pr
On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 07:03:13 +0100 (CET)
freemedia via Dng wrote:
> Steve Litt wrote:
>
> > Not Gentoo --- they're slowly sliding toward systemd.
>
> this is important to me, and ive looked for more information on the
> gentoo forums and website, and i cant find the trend.
>
> ive admired yo
On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 07:03:13 +0100 (CET)
freemedia via Dng wrote:
> ive admired your criticism of systemd for a long time:
> http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Librethreat_Database#Gratuitous_interdependency
The preceding is a very cool web page. I agree with everything on it
except (well cra
Steve Litt wrote:
> Not Gentoo --- they're slowly sliding toward systemd.
this is important to me, and ive looked for more information on the gentoo
forums and website, and i cant find the trend.
ive admired your criticism of systemd for a long time:
http://techrights.org/wiki/index.php/Libret
On Sun, 15 Dec 2019 11:00:28 +0100
Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Hi Steve.
>
> Steve Litt - 14.12.19, 02:55:26 CET:
> > According to this message on the Debian-User email message, Debian
> > is working on dumping non-systemd inits. The Debian vote methods
> > are so arcane I can't tell whether tha
Hi Steve.
Steve Litt - 14.12.19, 02:55:26 CET:
> According to this message on the Debian-User email message, Debian is
> working on dumping non-systemd inits. The Debian vote methods are so
> arcane I can't tell whether that's true or false, or whether the
> quoted vote is early or partial informa
On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 12:18:33 +0100
Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 14/12/2019 à 11:55, Arnt Karlsen a écrit :
> >> The problem is: where do you run,
> >> when there's no place to hide (in linux world)?
> > ..we drop Debian as the un-viable upstream it has become, and
> > move on with Slackware and Gent
On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 10:10:56 +0100
"Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" wrote:
> It's just politics. Or religion. The problem is: where do you run,
> when there's no place to hide (in linux world)?
Devuan, *BSD, Funtoo, any distro using musl. Probably several others.
As I remember, it was always the plan for D
More talk is the last thing they want.
Debating is hard, and requires many human qualities, like empathy,
selflessness, lust for common good, long-term intuition & thinking,
"self-rigorousness".
It becomes increasingly & especially difficult when other people do not
share your views.
It is
On 12/13/19 8:55 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
=
Begin forwarded message:
- - -=-=-=-=-=- Don't Delete Anything Between These Lines
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 7b77e0f2-4ff9-4adb-85e4-af249191f27a
[ 3 ] Choice 1: F: Focus on systemd
[ 1 ] Choice 2:
Le 14/12/2019 à 11:55, Arnt Karlsen a écrit :
The problem is: where do you run,
when there's no place to hide (in linux world)?
..we drop Debian as the un-viable upstream it has become, and
move on with Slackware and Gentoo etc and the *BSD unices.
Void, Adélie ...
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On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 10:10:56 +0100, Dr. wrote in message
<201912141010.56327.dr.kl...@gmx.at>:
> Anno domini 2019 Fri, 13 Dec 23:49:42 -0600
> goli...@devuan.org scripsit:
> > On 2019-12-13 23:31, Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm really disgusted the way that Debian is going.
Anno domini 2019 Fri, 13 Dec 23:49:42 -0600
goli...@devuan.org scripsit:
> On 2019-12-13 23:31, Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote:
> >
> > I'm really disgusted the way that Debian is going. What happened to
> > the
> > "universal Linux"
> >
> > Cheers
> > A.
> >
>
> And what happened to th
On 2019-12-13 23:31, Andrew McGlashan via Dng wrote:
I'm really disgusted the way that Debian is going. What happened to
the
"universal Linux"
Cheers
A.
And what happened to the priorities of the "Debian Social Contract"?
Here is a pertinent excerpt:
"Our priorities are our users
Hi,
On 14/12/19 2:30 pm, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
>
>> According to this message on the Debian-User email message, Debian is
>> working on dumping non-systemd inits.
>
> I continue to be unimpressed by the debian-user mailing list as a source
> of reliab
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
> According to this message on the Debian-User email message, Debian is
> working on dumping non-systemd inits.
I continue to be unimpressed by the debian-user mailing list as a source
of reliable information.
> The Debian vote methods are so
> ar
Hi all,
According to this message on the Debian-User email message, Debian is
working on dumping non-systemd inits. The Debian vote methods are so
arcane I can't tell whether that's true or false, or whether the quoted
vote is early or partial information.
SteveT
Steve Litt
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