Re: [DNG] Fearsome rumblings from GNU

2016-08-08 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Jack L. Frost (f...@fleshless.org): > No. The way you use ls in scripts is you don't. > http://mywiki.wooledge.org/ParsingLs Amen to that. That's why this entire thread's more than a bit silly. Use file(1) for that purpose, for heaven's sake. -- Cheers, Grossman's Law: "In

Re: [DNG] Fearsome rumblings from GNU

2016-08-08 Thread Brian Nash
Personally, I only need to use `for f in /dir/*`. Failing that, `echo /dir/*` (possibly piped through xargs) works too. `ls` seems to be more for human eyes than scripting anyway. All the modes, etc. should really be read through `stat`. But when you're just starting out, you probably don't kno

Re: [DNG] Fearsome rumblings from GNU

2016-08-08 Thread Brian Nash
On Sun, Aug 07, 2016 at 08:00:17PM +0200, Tomasz Torcz wrote: Debian was dilligent enough to revert the patch (half a year ago). Half a year ago? If that's true, then this must be old news, and I apologize. However, the messages concerning coreutils changes only appeared in my inbox recently

Re: [DNG] Fearsome rumblings from GNU

2016-08-08 Thread Jack L. Frost
On Sun, Aug 07, 2016 at 01:22:25PM -0400, Brian Nash wrote: > I'm not sure on the specifics of the change, but for most scripted uses > you would probably pass it the `-1` flag anyway. > > If it doesn't list one file per line anymore, that could be quite > serious: we would need to use `dir` inste

Re: [DNG] Fearsome rumblings from GNU

2016-08-07 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, Aug 07, 2016 at 04:26:59PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Sun, 7 Aug 2016 20:00:17 +0200 > > I guess this is about weird, superflous quoting in “ls”: > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=813164 > > > > Debian was dilligent enough to revert the patch (half a year ago). >

Re: [DNG] Fearsome rumblings from GNU

2016-08-07 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 7 Aug 2016 20:00:17 +0200 Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Sun, Aug 07, 2016 at 01:33:32PM -0400, Peter Olson wrote: > > > On August 7, 2016 at 1:22 PM Brian Nash wrote: > > > > > > Greetings everyone. > > > > > > This is just a heads up, GNU has had a few changes floating > > > around for a w

Re: [DNG] Fearsome rumblings from GNU

2016-08-07 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Sun, Aug 07, 2016 at 01:33:32PM -0400, Peter Olson wrote: > > On August 7, 2016 at 1:22 PM Brian Nash wrote: > > > > Greetings everyone. > > > > This is just a heads up, GNU has had a few changes floating around for a > > while, and it looks like they are finally making it into distributions.

Re: [DNG] Fearsome rumblings from GNU

2016-08-07 Thread Peter Olson
> On August 7, 2016 at 1:22 PM Brian Nash wrote: > > Greetings everyone. > > This is just a heads up, GNU has had a few changes floating around for a > while, and it looks like they are finally making it into distributions. > > Currently, only Fedora is affected (which I doubt anyone here uses)

[DNG] Fearsome rumblings from GNU

2016-08-07 Thread Brian Nash
Greetings everyone. This is just a heads up, GNU has had a few changes floating around for a while, and it looks like they are finally making it into distributions. Currently, only Fedora is affected (which I doubt anyone here uses), but it is possible that these changes will make it to Debian a