Re: [DNG] Devuan compared to AntiX

2015-08-12 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 09:48:54AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 06:19:00 -0700 > Go Linux wrote: > > > > It's unlikely I would ever install Plop but I found your DIY tut > > quite informative. Helped to demystify some things about chroot etc. > > which I now understand much be

Re: [DNG] Devuan compared to AntiX

2015-08-12 Thread Steve Litt
On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 06:19:00 -0700 Go Linux wrote: > It's unlikely I would ever install Plop but I found your DIY tut > quite informative. Helped to demystify some things about chroot etc. > which I now understand much better. Thanks. > > golinux Hi golinux, I'm glad it demystified some thi

Re: [DNG] Devuan compared to AntiX

2015-08-12 Thread Go Linux
On Tue, 8/11/15, Steve Litt wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Devuan compared to AntiX To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2015, 1:11 PM [cut] > > If you're not yet familiar with the procedure and philosophy of chroot > installation and configuration and Grubbing, I'

Re: [DNG] Devuan compared to AntiX

2015-08-11 Thread Rob Owens
- Original Message - > From: "Steve Litt" > Rob is right about the difficulty of installing Funtoo. As a matter of > fact, I'd say he's understated it. > > I'd go so far as to say Funtoo is only for technically proficient > people, and unlike *buntu, Debian, Devuan, OpenSuSE and Manjaro >

Re: [DNG] Devuan compared to AntiX

2015-08-11 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 13:35:54 -0400 (EDT) Rob Owens wrote: > - Original Message - > > From: "Robert Storey" > > > Other suggestions for non-systemd software are welcome. The main > > criteria is that it actually has to be something useful, something > > that I might install and use daily

Re: [DNG] Devuan compared to AntiX

2015-08-11 Thread Rob Owens
- Original Message - > From: "Robert Storey" > Other suggestions for non-systemd software are welcome. The main criteria is > that it actually has to be something useful, something that I might install > and > use daily. Thus, far-out stuff like Minix is not a consideration, even if it's

Re: [DNG] Devuan compared to AntiX

2015-08-09 Thread T.J. Duchene
On 08/09/2015 06:47 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: Doesn't that machine hae teh processor for which Microsoft said that all its Windowses would be totally locked down? Or have things changed for Windows 10? Hello, Hendrik! Assuming you mean "safe boot", that is only mandated for devices specif

Re: [DNG] Devuan compared to AntiX

2015-08-09 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Sun, Aug 09, 2015 at 07:47:39PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sat, Aug 08, 2015 at 08:16:51PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 09, 2015 at 10:13:45AM +0800, Robert Storey wrote: > > > Since > > > I'm a fan of the Raspberry Pi, I definitely want to see another distro > > > available

Re: [DNG] Devuan compared to AntiX

2015-08-09 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Aug 08, 2015 at 08:16:51PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > On Sun, Aug 09, 2015 at 10:13:45AM +0800, Robert Storey wrote: > > Since > > I'm a fan of the Raspberry Pi, I definitely want to see another distro > > available for it that is systemd-free. There is also FreeBSD for the Pi, > > thoug

Re: [DNG] Devuan compared to AntiX

2015-08-09 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Aug 08, 2015 at 07:42:04AM -0400, Renaud OLGIATI wrote: > On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 22:44:41 +1200 > Daniel Reurich wrote: > > > Devuan may have been born out of anger at the decisions of the TC, but > > already it is shaping up to be more then just Debian with sysvinit. > > Vdev is certainly

Re: [DNG] Devuan compared to AntiX

2015-08-08 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Sun, Aug 09, 2015 at 01:43:36AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 22:10:13 -0700 > Isaac Dunham wrote: > > > Try Alpine Linux (alpinelinux.org). > > Install docs are here: > > http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Installation > > [snip] > > > > > -init is Busybox init, with OpenRC o

Re: [DNG] Devuan compared to AntiX

2015-08-08 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 22:10:13 -0700 Isaac Dunham wrote: > Try Alpine Linux (alpinelinux.org). > Install docs are here: > http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Installation [snip] > > -init is Busybox init, with OpenRC on top. Fascinating! The Busybox PID1 with the OpenRC process adminstration is eno

Re: [DNG] Devuan compared to AntiX

2015-08-08 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Sun, Aug 09, 2015 at 10:13:45AM +0800, Robert Storey wrote: [snip] > My next review will probably be about Void Linux. Jesse wrote a very brief > review of Void a few months ago, in which he basically said it didn't run > on his machine, so he dismissed it as "not ready." That was actually a > p

Re: [DNG] Devuan compared to AntiX

2015-08-08 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Sun, Aug 09, 2015 at 10:13:45AM +0800, Robert Storey wrote: > Since > I'm a fan of the Raspberry Pi, I definitely want to see another distro > available for it that is systemd-free. There is also FreeBSD for the Pi, > though I understand it is very much a work in progress, but I'm interested > i

Re: [DNG] Devuan compared to AntiX

2015-08-08 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 9 Aug 2015 10:13:45 +0800 Robert Storey wrote: > My next review will probably be about Void Linux. Excellent choice! > Jesse wrote a very > brief review of Void a few months ago, in which he basically said it > didn't run on his machine, so he dismissed it as "not ready." You mean

Re: [DNG] Devuan compared to AntiX

2015-08-08 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, Aug 09, 2015 at 10:13:45AM +0800, Robert Storey wrote: > what exactly does systemd-shim do? Is it just > a package to trick other packages with dependencies on systemd, without > actually installing systemd? It allows running parts of systemd (logind, some power management functions, etc)

Re: [DNG] Devuan compared to AntiX

2015-08-08 Thread Robert Storey
As (bad) luck would have it, I just received an email from Jesse Smith (who writes the DistroWatch Weekly Review) informing me that he already wrote a review of antiX and it will be published this Monday. It would be too late to withdraw it now, since that would leave him without a review for this

Re: [DNG] Devuan compared to AntiX

2015-08-08 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 06:26:40 -0500 Thaddeus Nielsen wrote: > On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 15:02:07 +0800 > Robert Storey wrote: > > > Hi everyone. It's been a little while since I last posted. > > > > Some of you might remember that I occasionally write reviews for > > DistroWatch. Not too often, because

Re: [DNG] Devuan compared to AntiX

2015-08-08 Thread Ron
On Sat, 08 Aug 2015 22:44:41 +1200 Daniel Reurich wrote: > Devuan may have been born out of anger at the decisions of the TC, but > already it is shaping up to be more then just Debian with sysvinit. > Vdev is certainly a step away from systemd ties, but the discussions on > the mailinglist an

Re: [DNG] Devuan compared to AntiX

2015-08-08 Thread Thaddeus Nielsen
On Sat, 8 Aug 2015 15:02:07 +0800 Robert Storey wrote: > Hi everyone. It's been a little while since I last posted. > > Some of you might remember that I occasionally write reviews for > DistroWatch. Not too often, because it's my policy to only write about a > distro that I actually use (or wou

Re: [DNG] Devuan compared to AntiX

2015-08-08 Thread Daniel Reurich
Hi Robert, So my big question here: in what ways will Devuan differ from AntiX? To be honest, I've not looked at AntiX, and thus can't comment on differences and similarities. I'm guessing that vdev will be part of the answer, but surely there is more. My perspective is that Devuan aims

[DNG] Devuan compared to AntiX

2015-08-08 Thread Robert Storey
Hi everyone. It's been a little while since I last posted. Some of you might remember that I occasionally write reviews for DistroWatch. Not too often, because it's my policy to only write about a distro that I actually use (or would use) in everyday life. Ever since systemd starting contaminating