Re: [DNG] Debian blocks latest Intel microcode update

2018-08-23 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 08/22/2018 05:32 PM, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Don Wright - 22.08.18, 21:56: >> El Reg has [1]published a disagreement between a Debian maintainer and >> Intel over changes to license terms in the latest CPU microcode >> updates. The added terms (see comments) appear to attach liability to >>

Re: [DNG] Debian blocks latest Intel microcode update

2018-08-23 Thread Bruce Perens
They fixed it. New license text: *https://01.org/mcu-path-license-2018 * On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 8:44 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 09:31:01 +0200 > Jaromil wrote: > > > To start with, our Devuan project has always prioritised ARM support, > >

Re: [DNG] Debian blocks latest Intel microcode update

2018-08-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 09:31:01 +0200 Jaromil wrote: > To start with, our Devuan project has always prioritised ARM support, My understanding is that an ARM based computer is much more likely to have mandatory secure-boot. My understanding is you can't run Devuan on secure-boot without one of those

Re: [DNG] Debian blocks latest Intel microcode update

2018-08-23 Thread Jaromil
On Thu, 23 Aug 2018, KatolaZ wrote: > On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 09:31:01AM +0200, Jaromil wrote: > > My wish is that strong industrial players like ARM understand how > > valuable could be to ally with us and a few others in the open source > > world. > > > > I agree with most of the arguments, bu

Re: [DNG] Debian blocks latest Intel microcode update

2018-08-23 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Aug 23, 2018 at 09:31:01AM +0200, Jaromil wrote: [cut] > Me and many other Devuan developers agree with the good reasoning. I > also share Martin's optimism on what we can do. > > To start with, our Devuan project has always prioritised ARM support, > something visible from the many spec

Re: [DNG] Debian blocks latest Intel microcode update

2018-08-23 Thread Jaromil
On Thu, 23 Aug 2018, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Antony Stone - 23.08.18, 00:04: > > On Wednesday 22 August 2018 at 23:32:28, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > > Don Wright - 22.08.18, 21:56: > > > > El Reg has [1]published a disagreement between a Debian maintainer > > > > and Intel over changes to l

Re: [DNG] Debian blocks latest Intel microcode update

2018-08-22 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Antony Stone - 23.08.18, 00:04: > On Wednesday 22 August 2018 at 23:32:28, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > Don Wright - 22.08.18, 21:56: > > > El Reg has [1]published a disagreement between a Debian maintainer > > > and Intel over changes to license terms in the latest CPU > > > microcode updates. Th

Re: [DNG] Debian blocks latest Intel microcode update

2018-08-22 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Don Wright (wm...@dslextreme.com): > El Reg has [1]published a disagreement between a Debian maintainer and Intel > over changes to license terms in the latest CPU microcode updates. The added > terms (see comments) appear to attach liability to both Debian and mirror > sites if the end us

Re: [DNG] Debian blocks latest Intel microcode update

2018-08-22 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 22 August 2018 at 23:32:28, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Don Wright - 22.08.18, 21:56: > > El Reg has [1]published a disagreement between a Debian maintainer and > > Intel over changes to license terms in the latest CPU microcode > > updates. The added terms (see comments) appear to at

Re: [DNG] Debian blocks latest Intel microcode update

2018-08-22 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Don Wright - 22.08.18, 21:56: > El Reg has [1]published a disagreement between a Debian maintainer and > Intel over changes to license terms in the latest CPU microcode > updates. The added terms (see comments) appear to attach liability to > both Debian and mirror sites if the end user violates ce

[DNG] Debian blocks latest Intel microcode update

2018-08-22 Thread Don Wright
El Reg has [1]published a disagreement between a Debian maintainer and Intel over changes to license terms in the latest CPU microcode updates. The added terms (see comments) appear to attach liability to both Debian and mirror sites if the end user violates certain new restrictions regarding bench