Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-11-06 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Simon Walter (si...@gikaku.com): > Thanks for the bits of wisdom. > > Do you know any papers/articles/sites that discuss and explain this more? As Steve says, the crusty enfant-terrible of software, Prof. D.J. Bernstein, had some useful things to say about this, so, sure, start there. I

Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-11-06 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Dimitris via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > depends on the role... > bind as a local caching dns for PCs might be overhead. some people > would want something minimal/light for recursion, not the whole bind > "beast"... > unbound is very light in that perspective, and also found dqcache > (pa

Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-11-06 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Olaf Meeuwissen (paddy-h...@member.fsf.org): > I have a dnsmasq instance that does *authorative* resolution for an > internal domain. Well, pseudo-authoritative. > Anything not in that domain is forwarded to the corporate DNS servers. > Works fine for me so I think dnsmasq can be more th

Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-11-05 Thread Simon Walter
On 11/3/20 8:44 PM, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: Hi Rick, Rick Moen writes: Quoting g4sra via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): Can anybody suggest a suitable authoritative/recursive DNSSEC supporting name server for SOHO domain use on embedded systems. What I am looking for is something like dns

Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-11-05 Thread Simon Walter
On 11/3/20 4:36 PM, Steve Litt wrote: On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 09:08:50 +0900 Simon Walter wrote: On 10/30/20 7:29 AM, Rick Moen wrote: ... FWIW, I am no longer comfortable with the idea of a combined authoritative/recursive server on a publicly exposed static IP. That has been deprecated for long

Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-11-04 Thread Bernard Rosset via Dng
*sighs* PIDfiles are not the right way to communicate with daemons. I stopped there. Bernard (Beer) Rosset https://rosset.net/ ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-11-04 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 3 Nov 2020 14:55:40 -0500 Mason Loring Bliss wrote: > On Tue, Nov 03, 2020 at 12:24:35PM +0900, Simon Walter wrote: > But yes. I'd found an issue where Unbound wasn't obeying service > management in Devuan, and then that spiraled out into it being > CVE-worthy. But for our purposes, unbo

Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-11-04 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 11/3/20 9:55 PM, Mason Loring Bliss wrote: For my part, I've stopped using unbound at all. I've been using BIND for many years, and it works just fine in this role too. depends on the role... bind as a local caching dns for PCs might be overhead. some people would want something minimal/li

Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-11-03 Thread Mason Loring Bliss
On Tue, Nov 03, 2020 at 12:24:35PM +0900, Simon Walter wrote: > > Could it be related to this? > > > > https://github.com/NLnetLabs/unbound/issues/303 > > I don't think so - unless you are paranoid about anything that RH employees > contribute to. Hah, if you're paranoid about projects RH emplo

Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-11-03 Thread fraser kendall
On Tue, 3 Nov 2020 02:50:37 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 16:53:43 + > g4sra via Dng wrote: > > > On 29/10/2020 13:44, Michael Neuffer wrote: > > > On 10/29/20 2:27 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote: > > --snip-- > > >> To ease the maintenance of those servers i intend to migra

Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-11-03 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi Rick, Rick Moen writes: > Quoting g4sra via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > >> Can anybody suggest a suitable authoritative/recursive DNSSEC >> supporting name server for SOHO domain use on embedded systems. What >> I am looking for is something like dnsmasq. > > dnsmasq, it should be noted, is _

Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-11-02 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 29 Oct 2020 16:53:43 + g4sra via Dng wrote: > On 29/10/2020 13:44, Michael Neuffer wrote: > > On 10/29/20 2:27 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote: > --snip-- > >> To ease the maintenance of those servers i intend to migrate them > >> to docker containers. I wonder people on this list have exper

Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-11-02 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 13:18:56 +1100 wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: > > On 31 Oct 2020, at 10:52, Simon Walter wrote: > > > > On 10/30/20 3:19 AM, Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote: > >>> That said, I've stopped using unbound and I'm using straight BIND > >>> as my local resolver lately. It's pleas

Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-11-02 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 31 Oct 2020 09:08:50 +0900 Simon Walter wrote: > On 10/30/20 7:29 AM, Rick Moen wrote: > ... > > FWIW, I am no longer comfortable with the idea of a combined > > authoritative/recursive server on a publicly exposed static IP. > > That has been deprecated for long decades as bad security,

Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-11-02 Thread Simon Walter
On 10/31/20 11:18 AM, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: On 31 Oct 2020, at 10:52, Simon Walter wrote: On 10/30/20 3:19 AM, Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote: That said, I've stopped using unbound and I'm using straight BIND as my local resolver lately. It's pleasant. From what we discovered about

Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-10-31 Thread Dimitris T. via Dng
Simon Walter wrote: > On 10/30/20 3:19 AM, Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote: >>> That said, I've stopped using unbound and I'm using straight BIND as my >>> local resolver lately. It's pleasant. >> >>  From what we discovered about unbound during one of the meetings, I >> clearly do not trust that tech

Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-10-30 Thread wirelessduck--- via Dng
> On 31 Oct 2020, at 10:52, Simon Walter wrote: > > On 10/30/20 3:19 AM, Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote: >>> That said, I've stopped using unbound and I'm using straight BIND as my >>> local resolver lately. It's pleasant. >> From what we discovered about unbound during one of the meetings, I cl

Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-10-30 Thread Simon Walter
On 10/30/20 7:29 AM, Rick Moen wrote: ... FWIW, I am no longer comfortable with the idea of a combined authoritative/recursive server on a publicly exposed static IP. That has been deprecated for long decades as bad security, particularly because it increases the risk of cache poisoning of the re

Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-10-30 Thread Simon Walter
On 10/30/20 3:19 AM, Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote: That said, I've stopped using unbound and I'm using straight BIND as my local resolver lately. It's pleasant. From what we discovered about unbound during one of the meetings, I clearly do not trust that technology. What meetings? Is it pos

Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-10-30 Thread Curtis Maurand via Dng
my vote is for pdns-recursor. i’ve been using it for all sorts of different types of networks since version 1.n days. it can handle thousands of queries per second. it’s the first thing i install on any new system. coupled with dns-dist, it can handle recursive dns-over-https queries as well.

Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-10-30 Thread Michael Neuffer
On 10/29/20 5:53 PM, g4sra via Dng wrote: On 29/10/2020 13:44, Michael Neuffer wrote: On 10/29/20 2:27 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote: --snip-- To ease the maintenance of those servers i intend to migrate them to docker containers. I wonder people on this list have experience on this subject? You

Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-10-29 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting g4sra via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > Can anybody suggest a suitable authoritative/recursive DNSSEC > supporting name server for SOHO domain use on embedded systems. What > I am looking for is something like dnsmasq. dnsmasq, it should be noted, is _just_ a forwarder. It forwards outbou

Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-10-29 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 29/10/2020 18:19, Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote: >> That said, I've stopped using unbound and I'm using straight BIND as my >> local resolver lately. It's pleasant. > > From what we discovered about unbound during one of the meetings, I clearly > do not trust that technology. Too bad: it was on

Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-10-29 Thread Bernard Rosset via Dng
That said, I've stopped using unbound and I'm using straight BIND as my local resolver lately. It's pleasant. From what we discovered about unbound during one of the meetings, I clearly do not trust that technology. Too bad: it was on my to-test list. However, unbound is recursive-only IIRC.

Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-10-29 Thread Mason Loring Bliss
On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 04:53:43PM +, g4sra via Dng wrote: > Please correct me if I am mistaken, I thought 'unbound' was tied to > 'systemd creep' nowadays and have been avoiding it for that reason alone. No, that's systemd-resolved. Unbound is unrelated. That said, I've stopped using unboun

Re: [DNG] Clarification please

2020-10-29 Thread Dimitris T. via Dng
You're wrong, unbound worked and still works fine without systemd. Στις 29 Οκτωβρίου 2020 6:53:43 μ.μ. EET, ο/η g4sra via Dng έγραψε: >On 29/10/2020 13:44, Michael Neuffer wrote: >> On 10/29/20 2:27 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote: >--snip-- >>> To ease the maintenance of those servers i intend to migrat

[DNG] Clarification please

2020-10-29 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 29/10/2020 13:44, Michael Neuffer wrote: > On 10/29/20 2:27 PM, d...@d404.nl wrote: --snip-- >> To ease the maintenance of those servers i intend to migrate them to >> docker containers. I wonder people on this list have experience on this >> subject? > > > You might want to take a look at thi