On Thu, 11 Aug 2016 08:48:47 +0200, Arnt wrote in message
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> On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 18:45:18 -0400, Steve wrote in message
> <20160810184518.2c014...@mydesk.domain.cxm>:
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> > Sometimes a good, prophylactic fresh install is just what's needed.
>
> ..aye, todays E
On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 18:45:18 -0400, Steve wrote in message
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> Sometimes a good, prophylactic fresh install is just what's needed.
..aye, todays El Reg:
* Bungling Microsoft singlehandedly proves that golden backdoor
keys are a terri
Quoting Peter Olson (pe...@peabo.com):
> Turns out, I had managed to screw up my partition table. So Grub
> would never in a million years be able to boot anything off that disk.
> I found this out during reinstallation when I was presented with a
> partition table different from what I expected.
> On August 10, 2016 at 3:01 AM Simon Hobson wrote:
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> Peter Olson wrote:
>
> > I have a machine in that state right now, and rather than try to debug it
> > at the Grub prompt, I am just going to reinstall the system.
>
> That's a bit like the old "I'm buying a new car because the ashtray i
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
> Sometimes a good, prophylactic fresh install is just what's needed.
There's something to that.
At $FIRM, a big shop where I was Senior Sysadmin for six years in the
Operations department, we tried to make every machine auto-buildable
using confir
On Wed, 10 Aug 2016 08:01:07 +0100
Simon Hobson wrote:
> Peter Olson wrote:
>
> > I have a machine in that state right now, and rather than try to
> > debug it at the Grub prompt, I am just going to reinstall the
> > system.
>
> That's a bit like the old "I'm buying a new car because the ash
Peter Olson wrote:
> I have a machine in that state right now, and rather than try to debug it at
> the Grub prompt, I am just going to reinstall the system.
That's a bit like the old "I'm buying a new car because the ashtray is full"
joke.
If you've managed to screw up your kernel and/or ini
Quoting Peter Olson (pe...@peabo.com):
> That would be a cool way to do it, but it's a machine where I work, so
> I would have to document it and support it (different from all our
> other machines).
>
> Thanks for the advice though. It could be helpful for others.
Well, if you'd _like_ to try
Quoting Robert Storey (robert.sto...@gmail.com):
> I'd probably be fine with extlinux, though at the moment my preferred
> bootloader is still Grub-Legacy. So easy to configure, and it "Just Works"™
> every time. I'm only forced to mess with it when I install a new distro
> that rams Grub2 down yo
> On August 9, 2016 at 11:06 PM Rick Moen wrote:
>
> Quoting Peter Olson (pe...@peabo.com):
>
> > Of course, it is difficult to shoot yourself in the foot with GRUB ...
> >
> >
> > I have a machine in that state right now, and rather than try to debug
> > it at the Grub prompt, I am just going
Quoting Peter Olson (pe...@peabo.com):
> > On August 9, 2016 at 1:52 PM Rick Moen wrote:
> >
> > GRUB is a capable and flexible bootloader, but practically all of the
> > reasons commonly cited for it being preferable to LILO boil down to "I
> > once messed with my boot files before readin
> On August 9, 2016 at 1:52 PM Rick Moen wrote:
>
> GRUB is a capable and flexible bootloader, but practically all of the
> reasons commonly cited for it being preferable to LILO boil down to "I
> once messed with my boot files before reading LILO documentation, shot
> myself in the foot,
Like many of my fellow Devuaners, I tend to favor simple solutions over
complex ones.
I'd probably be fine with extlinux, though at the moment my preferred
bootloader is still Grub-Legacy. So easy to configure, and it "Just Works"™
every time. I'm only forced to mess with it when I install a new d
Rick Moen wrote:
> ... before reading ... documentation
You expect people to do what ? :-)
As you point out, there's a lot going for LILO - really simple as long as you
don't break it. And if it is working, it shouldn't break itself.
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Quoting Simon Hobson (li...@thehobsons.co.uk):
> But didn't LILO have similar (or worse) problems ? It's a long time
> since I've used it, but didn't break any time up updated anything -
> and you had to remember to re-install it so it could update the block
> list (because it just had a list of b
On Tue, Aug 09, 2016 at 12:46:26PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 09, 2016 at 12:04:17AM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
> >
> > In recent years, as I got progressively more irritated with byzantinely
> > overengineered distro-packaged software barging onto my Linux systems, I
> > actually check
On Tue, Aug 09, 2016 at 12:04:17AM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
>
> In recent years, as I got progressively more irritated with byzantinely
> overengineered distro-packaged software barging onto my Linux systems, I
> actually checked to see about just, y'know, switching back to lilo. Two
> problems:
>
Peter Olson wrote:
> My principal complaint about GRUB is that it works very well until one day
> when it doesn't, when it now provides the minimal help conceivable to boot
> your machine.
INdeed, and IMO the use of UIDs is something of a PITA - great for working
around the "devices enumerate d
> On August 9, 2016 at 3:04 AM Rick Moen wrote:
>
> Quoting Peter Olson (pe...@peabo.com):
>
> > I apologize for top-posting, but I have no idea what you are talking about.
> >
> > For the record, I am not fond of GRUB2 either.
>
> For my next-generation server rebuild, I'm going to be using t
Quoting Peter Olson (pe...@peabo.com):
> I apologize for top-posting, but I have no idea what you are talking about.
>
> For the record, I am not fond of GRUB2 either.
For my next-generation server rebuild, I'm going to be using the
extlinux bootloader, part of the Syslinux project. (extlinux i
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