Re: [DNG] Which desktops work without systemd

2016-04-23 Thread Trond Arild Ydersbond
Jaromil : >> BTW, there is a new devuan-based exegnulinux ISO with >> TDE:http://www.exegnulinux.net/ >just tested with qemu, it doesn't boots (error -28 on /bin/sh execution) >I suspect they use Debian's live-cd scripts? that may be the problem >we had to fork that too, Frits did >https://git.

Re: [DNG] Devuan Web A11y

2016-04-19 Thread Trond Arild Ydersbond
19. april 2016 15.45 Jaromil : >thanks to Hellekin and Golinux. >I agree they have done an outstanding job! >the aim is really at consolidating short and sharp documentation. >one thing Debian really suffers from: the dispersion of its docs. >This is understandable since it is sedimented from

Re: [DNG] removing unwanted bluetooth

2016-04-14 Thread Trond Arild Ydersbond
14. april 2016 15.13 Alberto Senni : >>> On Thu, 14 Apr 2016, Boruch Baum wrote: >>> 1] The devuan installer shouldn't include bluetooth as a default kernel module. >>> >>> IMHO the devuan installer only should deviate from the debian >>> installer where absolutely necessary (i.e. necess

Re: [DNG] suspend

2016-04-13 Thread Trond Arild Ydersbond
+1 I wonder if two new lists could be helpful, in addition to what is planned: 1. dng-oppftopic - for the rants, systemd general stuff, debian-related, public discussions about Linux etc etc 2. dng-users- for support, discussion of more special issues, toy projects that are not

Re: [DNG] Another multi-user issue

2016-04-07 Thread Trond Arild Ydersbond
Jack L. Frost : >On Sun, Apr 03, 2016 at 08:17:32PM -0400, Boruch Baum wrote: >> Please consider setting the default /etc/fstab to include: >> >> proc/proc procdefaults,hidepid=2 >> >> This has the effect of keeping the specific activities, process ids, >> command l

Re: [DNG] ...and when trolling went too far

2016-04-06 Thread Trond Arild Ydersbond
Den Onsdag, 6. april 2016 14.20 skrev KatolaZ : >> So you think public interest is best served by leaving information cleanup >> after stupid vandalism to the Poettering squad. I don't. > What would you suggest as an alternative, that you or me go there and > do the clean-up instead? If w

Re: [DNG] ...and when trolling went too far

2016-04-06 Thread Trond Arild Ydersbond
Rainer Weikusat : >Every propaganda lie is useful to someone. But the invalid reasoning (or >rather, complete lack of reasoning) remains invalid nevertheless. Mr P >certainly earns enough money to have his own staff of Wikipedia cleaners >so let them worry about that. End of this story. So

[DNG] Booting from newly created squashfs image with legacy grub?

2016-04-06 Thread Trond Arild Ydersbond
I have just started using Devuan, downloading (wget) the alpha4 qcow2 image and running that in kvm under Debian 8.3. Works well, have installed xfce and diverse tools. Running that image, last Sunday I was able to create a new squashfs image, using ozitraveller's DIY method (https://forums.b

Re: [DNG] ...and when trolling went too far

2016-04-06 Thread Trond Arild Ydersbond
Simon Hobson : >Boruch Baum wrote: >> Sorry to ruin the party, but I'll object to it because its just not a >> nice thing to do, and its an awful thing to mess up content on the fine >> site that is wikipedia. >+1 for that >Regardless of what people think of him, it's not a grown up or pleasant

Re: [DNG] ...and when trolling went too far

2016-04-04 Thread Trond Arild Ydersbond
Den Mandag, 4. april 2016 8.09 skrev Mitt Green : https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Lennart_Poettering&oldid=703955376 Representing him as an ass and bloatware generator is definitely not in the interest of those challenging his actions as a developer. Why the heck give that guy a

Re: [DNG] icedove install-recommends

2016-04-03 Thread Trond Arild Ydersbond
4. april 2016 4.32 Simon Walter : >On 2016/04/04 13:27, Steve Litt wrote: >> Isn't Icedove a re-branded Thunderbird? Every time I try to use >> Thunderbird, it's an order of magnitude slower than Claws-Mail. >I think XUL shows it's weakness. I am not an expert, but AFAIR, this is >the reason

Re: [DNG] no downtime registered [was: Devuan mirror down]

2016-04-03 Thread Trond Arild Ydersbond
On 2016-03-26 20:23, aitor_czr wrote: On 03/26/2016 02:53 PM, Emiliano Marini g wrote: > Sorry, missed Jaromil message. I know understand files.devuan.org has no > HTTPS suppport at this time. > The problem is browsers default to HTTPS when opening a new URL. > Inspecting the HTML source co