Re: [DNG] Ceres broke (/lib/lsb/init-functions missing)

2022-09-13 Thread Mark Hindley
Alexander, On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 10:12:12AM +, Alexander Brüning via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > my Devuan Ceres (unstable) broke after updating today because the file > /lib/lsb/init-functions went missing. Downgrading lsb-base and lsb-release > brought it back. > > It seems like Debian is movin

Re: [DNG] Openvpn CVE fix in devuan chimaera

2022-07-24 Thread Mark Hindley
Tom, On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 02:09:34AM +1000, wirelessd...@gmail.com wrote: > > I have just had a quick look and the commit seems to backport easily. New > > version for chimaera-security is en route. > > > > Mark > > Thanks for the quick update! 2.5.1-3+devuan2 is now in chimaera-security and

Re: [DNG] Openvpn CVE fix in devuan chimaera

2022-07-24 Thread Mark Hindley
On Sun, Jul 24, 2022 at 04:19:39PM +0100, Mark Hindley wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 12:46:09AM +1000, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: > >I saw https://bugs.debian.org/1008015 on the Debian BTS which mentions > >it was found in openvpn/2.5.1-3, openvpn

Re: [DNG] Openvpn CVE fix in devuan chimaera

2022-07-24 Thread Mark Hindley
Hi, On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 12:46:09AM +1000, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: >I saw https://bugs.debian.org/1008015 on the Debian BTS which mentions >it was found in openvpn/2.5.1-3, openvpn/2.5.5-1 and fixed in >openvpn/2.5.6-1. > >Devuan chimaera still has openvpn/2.5.1-3+devuan

Re: [DNG] chimaera to daedalus upgrade

2022-07-12 Thread Mark Hindley
On Tue, Jul 12, 2022 at 02:06:08PM +0100, fraser kendall wrote: > Hello, > > In the middle of a dist-upgrade and got this error: > > Preparing to unpack .../nodejs_16.15.1+dfsg-1_amd64.deb ... > Unpacking nodejs (16.15.1+dfsg-1) over (12.22.12~dfsg-1~deb11u1) ... > dpkg: error processing archive

Re: [DNG] Newer version of libelogind0 not getting installed

2022-05-04 Thread Mark Hindley
Olaf, On Wed, May 04, 2022 at 08:38:06AM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > and do not have a desktop installed in case that matters. > Instead I rely on startx to start i3 for me when I need a GUI. Ah, so, no libpam-elogind? Yes that probably makes a difference. The new dependency chains libpam-

Re: [DNG] Newer version of libelogind0 not getting installed

2022-04-26 Thread Mark Hindley
Olaf, On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 01:44:44PM +0100, Mark Hindley wrote: > I have had a look at the dependencies again and I think I see the (my!) bug. > libelogind-compat has > > Breaks: libelogind (<< 246.10-4~) > > which, I think should be > > Breaks: libelogin

Re: [DNG] Newer version of libelogind0 not getting installed

2022-04-26 Thread Mark Hindley
Olaf On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 07:36:48PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > so yes, installing it will fix it. Good. > It's just that I think there should > be no need to install run-time library dependencies explicitly, even if > one decides that Recommends: are just that ;-) Yes, I agree. I have

Re: [DNG] Newer version of libelogind0 not getting installed

2022-04-26 Thread Mark Hindley
Olaf, On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 06:14:26PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > Ah! Looking at the currently installed libelogind0=246.10-3, I see it > Provides: libsystemd0 whereas libelogind0=246.10-4 no longer does. > > Any reason that was dropped? The Provides was moved into the new libelo

Re: [DNG] devuan chimaera and NUT shutdown failure

2022-04-10 Thread Mark Hindley
Nate, On Sat, Apr 09, 2022 at 09:55:45AM -0700, nate wrote: > My Beowulf system has sysvinit (which shutdown appears to come from) version > 2.93-8+devuan1 and my Chimeara system has 2.96-7+devuan1. Nothing stands > out in the changelog for sysvinit to explain this kind of behavioral > change. You

[DNG] Change to Devuan package version policy

2022-02-04 Thread Mark Hindley
Hello, At the Devuan Dev meeting on Thursday 3rd February at 2030 UTC, it was agreed to change the Devuan package version numbering policy. The Devuan version that is appended to forked packages will change from '+devuanN' to 'devuanN'. For the full rationale behind this decision see below. If yo

Re: [DNG] PHP 8.1 depends on systemd?

2022-01-29 Thread Mark Hindley
On Sat, Jan 29, 2022 at 12:47:14PM +0100, Mathieu ROY via Dng wrote: > Hello, > > Trying to upgrade to PHP 8.1, I found out it now depends on systemd or > systemd-tmpfiles (no package available). systemd-tmpfiles is a virtual package that is satisfied by systemd-standalone-tmpfiles which is avail

Re: [DNG] libfluidsynth-dev requires libsystemd0, fails to install

2021-12-05 Thread Mark Hindley
Nicola, On Sun, Dec 05, 2021 at 03:04:20PM +, Nicola Orrù via Dng wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm trying to build a LV2 plugin from source. > > The plugin requires libfluidsynth-dev. > > Attempting to install libfluidsynth-dev produces the following error: > > > nico@lenovo-devuan:~/Projects/3rd

Re: [DNG] rdiff-backup compatibility

2021-11-01 Thread Mark Hindley
Hendrick, On Mon, Nov 01, 2021 at 08:42:01AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > What is not mentioned is whether the backup archive format has changed > incompatibly. > > That's what I was asking. Sorry. My misunderstanding. Mark ___ Dng mailing list Dng

Re: [DNG] rdiff-backup compatibility

2021-11-01 Thread Mark Hindley
This is documented in Debian's Bullseye Release Notes and referenced from Devuan's Chimaera Release Notes. Mark ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Warning about Wicd in Chimaera

2021-10-18 Thread Mark Hindley
On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 05:47:06PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > There's no wicd in Chimaera. > If you need it to access the internet, you must replace it with another > network manager *before* you upgrade to chimaera, otherwise you'll not be > able to access the internet to download the replacem

Re: [DNG] Some questions to update the debian to devuan migration script

2021-09-22 Thread Mark Hindley
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 12:38:09AM +0200, tito via Dng wrote: > Hi, > some questions I hope somebody on the list can answer: > > 1) is debian-pulseaudio-config-override still needed in chimaera? > Found out myself: seems not. > > 2) are other config-override packages needed (for standard de

Re: [DNG] Only a few packages now still on hold

2021-08-02 Thread Mark Hindley
On Mon, Aug 02, 2021 at 10:15:31PM +1000, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: > Is seatd likely to get anywhere in the next Debian development cycle after > bullseye/chimaera? Would this allow us to just need only one option for users > to install? It is already packaged in Devuan and is also waiting

Re: [DNG] Only a few packages now still on hold

2021-08-02 Thread Mark Hindley
Hendrik, As suggested by Rod, I also prefer plain apt to aptitude. In general it is a very good package manager and is pretty successful at resolving dependencies and not breaking your system. On Sun, Aug 01, 2021 at 09:58:47PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > And today I did aptitude update and ap

Re: [DNG] Cockpit removal might make sense

2021-05-26 Thread Mark Hindley
On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 04:23:56PM +0900, Simon Walter wrote: > On 5/26/21 12:37 AM, Mark Hindley wrote: > > This is actually a Debian bug and should be fixed there. > > > > If cockpit requires systemd, is should declare that dependency. > > AFAICT, it requires a

Re: [DNG] Cockpit removal might make sense

2021-05-25 Thread Mark Hindley
On Tue, May 25, 2021 at 07:03:16PM +, g4sra via Dng wrote: > Is this the rule for all packages that have dependency on SystemD for some > functionality ? My personal opinion on this is yes. Non systemd init is still possible in Debian. So it appears some current versions of cockpit will not w

Re: [DNG] Cockpit removal might make sense

2021-05-25 Thread Mark Hindley
This is actually a Debian bug and should be fixed there. If cockpit requires systemd, is should declare that dependency. If the dependency were present, amprolla would exclude cockpit from the Devuan archives. So I suggest you submit a bug to Debian's BTS asking for the explicit systemd dependen

[DNG] Testing for beowulf 3.1 point release

2020-12-04 Thread Mark Hindley
Hello, The Devuan Developers are preparing for a beowulf point release (3.1). It would be very helpful to have the new versions of packages tested more widely. If you feel able to help with that and are prepared to debug any breakage with us, please - add beowulf-proposed-updates to apt sources.

Re: [DNG] bug#228: Long description truncated from packages when using 'apt cache search'

2020-09-07 Thread Mark Hindley
Thanks for your patience. This issue is now resolved in the amprolla instance serving pkgmaster.devuan.org and the round-robin mirrors (deb.devuan.org) which derive from it. packages.devuan.org is deprecated and will be decommissioned very soon so its amprolla instance has not been updated. Ensu

Re: [DNG] latest wireshark-common/ceres depends on libsystemd0

2020-08-26 Thread Mark Hindley
On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 12:42:33AM +0300, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > was -rarely- using wifite, that depends on tshark+wireshark-common, but > can live without it.. > > but was wondering.., > should i file a bug report in debian or a new RFP in devuan? > > debian seems to ignore/discard any non-sy

Re: [DNG] Can't get graphic output from qemu

2020-07-13 Thread Mark Hindley
On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 05:42:12PM -1000, Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > Hi list, > > Since upgrading to ascii, I don't get a graphic window by default > as before. Instead, qemu tries (and fails) to make a VNC connection. > > I can run qemu-system-x86_64 -display curses for text only. > The sdl and

[DNG] Devuan Jessie End of Life (EOL) archiving

2020-07-01 Thread Mark Hindley
ed for compatibility with Devuan Jessie. They will be decommissioned very shortly. We kindly ask all users of Devuan ASCII and Beowulf to ensure that they are using http://deb.devuan.org in their APT sources lists. Yours Mark Hindley On behalf of the Devuan Dev Team _ [1] https://wiki

Re: [DNG] no shutdown by pressing power button

2020-06-20 Thread Mark Hindley
On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 08:16:30AM +0200, J. Fahrner via Dng wrote: > Am 2020-06-17 23:49, schrieb ippaket via Dng: > > after the upgrade from ascii to beowulf I can't shutdown my machine > > (64bit intel atom) by pressing the power button anymore. > > > > Any ideas what to do ? If you have upowe

[DNG] Devuan Git Migration

2020-06-12 Thread Mark Hindley
Friends, The Devuan project is changing its git repository manager from GitLab to Gitea[1]. The main motivation for this change is to avoid the excessive server resource consumption of the GitLab instance. It has also become increasingly difficult to incorporate necessary security fixes without en

Re: [DNG] Devuan Beowulf 3.0.0 released.

2020-06-03 Thread Mark Hindley
On Wed, Jun 03, 2020 at 10:56:50AM +0200, Dario Niedermann wrote: > Il 02/06/2020 alle 19:30, Mark Hindley ha scritto: > > > Devuan Developers are delighted to announce the release of Devuan > > Beowulf 3.0.0 as the project's new stable release. [...] > > Hi! Couple

[DNG] Devuan Beowulf 3.0.0 released.

2020-06-02 Thread Mark Hindley
Dear Friends and Software Freedom Lovers, Devuan Developers are delighted to announce the release of Devuan Beowulf 3.0.0 as the project's new stable release. This is the result of many months of painstaking work by the Team and detailed testing by the wider Devuan community. What's n

Re: [DNG] Small issues after upgrading to Beowulf

2020-05-22 Thread Mark Hindley
David, On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 08:06:06AM +0200, David Kuehling via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > in March I upgraded from Devuan Ascii to Beowulf, using the > documentation provided here: > > https://beta.devuan.org/os/documentation/dev1fanboy/en/upgrade-to-beowulf > > Only three small problems poppe

Re: [DNG] perl Setting locale failed on Beowulf PPC64

2020-04-27 Thread Mark Hindley
On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 06:43:57PM +0200, Luciano Mannucci wrote: > > Beowulf on PowerPC seems jolly good! Great! > The only strange thing I get is this: > > #service postgresql start > perl: warning: Setting locale failed. > perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: Try 'dpkg-rec

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-04-20 Thread Mark Hindley
Alexis, On Mon, Apr 20, 2020 at 01:03:47PM +, Alexis PM via Dng wrote: >* libsystemd0 is installed. Note: it is a minimal installation (I >didn't select anything in installation tasksel). Unfortunately Debian's apt in buster depends on libsystemd0. See https://bugs.devuan.org/355 We

Re: [DNG] Fwd: ceres policykit

2020-03-26 Thread Mark Hindley
On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 04:35:57PM +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > is this safe to proceed and remove? > should i wait for newer versions of these "obsolete" packages into ceres? It is fine. If you look in the changelog you will see it documented. The backend libraries have been removed in 0.105-

Re: [DNG] couldn't register with accessibility bus in Beowulf (workaround)

2020-03-25 Thread Mark Hindley
There are also the most recent comments[1] in Debian bug #911362 which relates to Buster and lightdm. Does installing libatk-adaptor help? Mark [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=911362#27 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org ht

Re: [DNG] couldn't register with accessibility bus in Beowulf (workaround)

2020-03-25 Thread Mark Hindley
Daniel and Gregory, I have had a look at this. I can conform that slim seems to do the right thing at the AT_SPI_BUS is set and available. On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 08:06:22AM +, Daniel Abrecht via Dng wrote: > Hi > > I've had that problem as well. It also prevents the auto-show feature of th

Re: [DNG] ASCII 2.1 to Beowulf: Report + questions

2020-03-23 Thread Mark Hindley
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 10:32:44AM +0100, al3xu5 / dotcommon wrote: > > Does `apt install libpam-elogind' fix it? > > Hum... that's what I have: > > ~~~ > $ sudo apt-get install libpam-elogind > Lettura elenco dei pacchetti... Fatto > Generazione albero delle dipendenze > Lettura informazi

Re: [DNG] ASCII 2.1 to Beowulf: Report + questions

2020-03-22 Thread Mark Hindley
On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 05:53:17PM +0100, al3xu5 / dotcommon wrote: > Hi all > > Yesterday I dist-upgrade ASCII 2.1 (MATE DM) to Beowulf, following [1]. > > Overall, the upgrade appears to have gone well; the process has completed and > the system is fully functional. But there are some details (

Re: [DNG] Chromium on Beowulf

2020-03-22 Thread Mark Hindley
On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 12:44:35PM +0100, J. Fahrner via Dng wrote: > On Beowulf Chromium does not start because of missing sandbox. > > ERROR:zygote_host_impl_linux.cc(116)] No usable sandbox! If this is a Debian > system, please install the chromium-sandbox package to solve this problem. > If yo

Re: [DNG] network-manager on Beowulf

2020-03-22 Thread Mark Hindley
On Sun, Mar 22, 2020 at 12:40:23PM +0100, J. Fahrner via Dng wrote: > Hi, > after upgrading from Ascii to Beowulf network-manager ist broken. > > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > network-manager : Depends: libpam-systemd Install libpam-elogind Mark _

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-03-20 Thread Mark Hindley
On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 10:05:18AM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > goli...@devuan.org writes: > > > Dear dev1ers, > > > > The Devuan 3 Beowulf Beta release is now ready for review. The > > installer isos, desktop-live and minimal-live isos can be downloaded > > from: > > > > https

Re: [DNG] Is there a netboot.tar.gz ?

2020-02-08 Thread Mark Hindley
On Sun Feb  9 00:19:31 2020 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Hi all! > > Is there something like debians netboot.tar.gz for devuan? Should be available this week along with mini.iso when I build debian-installer. Mark ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.

Re: [DNG] "chimeara/ceres" in lsb_release output causes failure to compile kernel

2020-02-05 Thread Mark Hindley
On Tue, Feb 04, 2020 at 09:48:24PM +, mat...@danwin1210.me wrote: > On 200202-11:17+0000, Mark Hindley wrote: > ... > > Actually, I think we might just need to merge in Debian's base-files 11.0. > > It > > has dropped all the VERSION, VERSION_ID and CODENAME hea

Re: [DNG] "chimeara/ceres" in lsb_release output causes failure to compile kernel

2020-02-02 Thread Mark Hindley
Matheu, Thanks for this. On Sat, Feb 01, 2020 at 09:40:31PM +, mat...@danwin1210.me wrote: > 127c127 > < elif distribution=$(lsb_release -cs |cut -d/ -f2 2>/dev/null) && [ -n > "$distribution" ] && [ "$distribution" != "n/a" ]; then > --- > > elif distribution=$(lsb_release -cs 2>/dev/null)

Re: [DNG] "chimeara/ceres" in lsb_release output causes failure to compile kernel

2020-01-28 Thread Mark Hindley
On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 09:46:38PM -, matheu--- via Dng wrote: > Hi! > > I tried to see how to report this bug on bugs.devuan.org, or on > dev1galaxy.org but couldn't magage with Tor. Matheu, Thanks. This looks as if it might well be related to #379. So please could you resend this informat

Re: [DNG] buster to beowulf

2020-01-16 Thread Mark Hindley
On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 06:45:44PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > I'd like to pretend to be a former Debian user who wants to try out > Devuan, > and perform the cross-grade as a former Debian user might. > > The point of course, is for find out if there are any glitches before > beowulf goes stabl

Re: [DNG] Alternatives to synaptic?

2020-01-09 Thread Mark Hindley
I don't quite understand what you want. To use synaptic you need to accept policykit-1 and either elogind or consolekit. Mark ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Alternatives to synaptic?

2020-01-09 Thread Mark Hindley
On Thu, Jan 09, 2020 at 05:44:17PM +0100, Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > is there a recommended GUI package browser for Devuan? > > After migrating, synaptic isn't installed. If I try to install it, it says it > needs policykit-1. Since the latter seems to be akin to systemd, I repl

Re: [DNG] elogind and libelogind0

2020-01-06 Thread Mark Hindley
On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 04:04:43PM +, Mark Hindley wrote: > The choice is yours. For completeness, perhaps I should have mentioned that you can always forgo all of this complexity and try openbox. Mark ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org ht

Re: [DNG] elogind and libelogind0

2020-01-06 Thread Mark Hindley
On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 04:10:56PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ..which should we use, elogind or consolekit? It probably depends on which desktop you want to use. AFAIK in beowulf, xfce4 with slim or lightdm can use either consolekit or elogind. Most other destops (mate, cinnamon, lxqt, budgi

Re: [DNG] elogind and libelogind0

2020-01-06 Thread Mark Hindley
On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 09:10:44AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 01:53:09PM +0000, Mark Hindley wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 08:39:45AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > Just wondering -- did it refuse to boot or be otherwise seriously > >

Re: [DNG] elogind and libelogind0 (WAS: Re: We need upgrade reports

2020-01-06 Thread Mark Hindley
On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 08:39:45AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Just wondering -- did it refuse to boot or be otherwise seriously > unusable until you had installed elogind and libelogind0? Were your > text-only consoles affected? Or did it just interfere with desktops? > > And just curious --

Re: [DNG] Migrating from debian stretch/ openbox

2020-01-03 Thread Mark Hindley
On Fri, Jan 03, 2020 at 01:27:56PM +0100, Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: > Hi all, > > After the latest GR, it seems to be time to migrate. Is ASCII the right > planet > to go? I found migrate-to-ascii[*] but no equivalent guide for beowulf. Ascii is stable and derived from stretch. Beowulf

Re: [DNG] why is dist-upgrade trying to remove mate

2020-01-02 Thread Mark Hindley
On Thu, Jan 02, 2020 at 10:45:28PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: > Hi All, > I just did apt-get update followed by dist-upgrade on a Beowulf > system, and I get this: Hi, I just pushed a new verion of policykit to beowulf. It could be related to that. Do you gave elogind installed? What does apt

Re: [DNG] Clamav not installable??

2019-12-17 Thread Mark Hindley
On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 03:09:12PM +0100, Roel Wagenaar via Dng wrote: > Mark Hindley wrote: > > > On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 08:57:05AM +0100, Roel Wagenaar via Dng wrote: > > > > http://packagemaster.deb.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/libm/libmspack/libmspack0_0.5-1+d

Re: [DNG] Clamav not installable??

2019-12-17 Thread Mark Hindley
On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 08:57:05AM +0100, Roel Wagenaar via Dng wrote: > http://packagemaster.deb.devuan.org/merged/pool/DEBIAN/main/libm/libmspack/libmspack0_0.5-1+deb9u3_arm64.deb > is mislukt 404 Not Found I am sorry, I can't reporduce this at all. What does HEAD -S http://packagemaster.d

Re: [DNG] Clamav not installable??

2019-12-15 Thread Mark Hindley
On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 03:15:15PM +0100, Roel Wagenaar via Dng wrote: > L.S. > > When installing clamav on a Raspberrypi 3+ I get error for packages not > found. > > > Error:1 http://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii/main arm64 libmspack0 arm64 > 0.5-1+deb9u3 > 404 Not Found Are you using ascii?

Re: [DNG] Error trying to update beowulf

2019-12-06 Thread Mark Hindley
On Fri, Dec 06, 2019 at 02:48:55PM -0500, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: > I have a local devaun repository > I updated it today and I get the following error: Thanks. This is caused by our migration yesterday to a new build pipeline and dak repository. I have changed the config to be as similar

Re: [DNG] How to change the action of the computer's power button?

2019-12-02 Thread Mark Hindley
On Mon, Dec 02, 2019 at 02:52:32PM +, Mark Hindley wrote: > On Mon, Dec 02, 2019 at 03:41:38PM +0100, Stephane Ascoet wrote: > > Le 02/12/2019 à 15:23, Mark Hindley a écrit : > > >Are you using elogind? If so you can change the defaults in > > >/etc/elogind/logind.co

Re: [DNG] How to change the action of the computer's power button?

2019-12-02 Thread Mark Hindley
On Mon, Dec 02, 2019 at 03:41:38PM +0100, Stephane Ascoet wrote: > Le 02/12/2019 à 15:23, Mark Hindley a écrit : > >Are you using elogind? If so you can change the defaults in > >/etc/elogind/logind.conf. > > Thanks for the answer but no, and it happens even in TTYs, so I ass

Re: [DNG] How to change the action of the computer's power button?

2019-12-02 Thread Mark Hindley
On Mon, Dec 02, 2019 at 03:04:08PM +0100, Stephane Ascoet wrote: > Hi, on the laptop of my work, pressing the power button while Devuan is > running executes a shutdown, the default setting. It's a probleme for me, > how can I change the command called? I've searched the Web and only found > answer

Re: [DNG] disable elogind messages?

2019-11-13 Thread Mark Hindley
Hal, On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 04:35:14AM -0600, hal wrote: > Hi, > Any way to disable elogind from filling up the message logs? I think all > these messages are happening because I have cron jobs running frequently. > > I could possibly tell rsyslog to file these in cron.log (if it is cron) but >

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-11 Thread Mark Hindley
On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 06:25:20PM +0200, José Marinho wrote: > Finally, I managed to get to Beowulf from Buster by doing what is indicated > in the text file I send as an attachment. > > Hope it would be helpful. Yes, thanks. On a quick look all of your difficulties look related to tasksel. I t

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-11 Thread Mark Hindley
On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 10:41:29AM +0200, José Marinho wrote: > For the first point, you are right, the final hyphen makes a big difference > and now I am free of the dbus delay and can reach a GUI through Lightdm. Great! > But the other issue persists: > root@dserver:~# apt install --purge polic

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-10 Thread Mark Hindley
José, Hello. Thanks for this. On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 09:40:42PM +0200, José Marinho wrote: > Hi all, > > >From a brand new debian server installation on Virtualbox I install desktop > >stuff by installing task-xfce-destop metapackage and try your instructions. I > >don't know if I miss or misun

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-10 Thread Mark Hindley
On Tue, Sep 10, 2019 at 10:09:12AM -0400, fsmithred via Dng wrote: > Would a transitional package that makes the edit to /var/lib/dpkg/status be > a sane solution? Yes I wondered about that. What would work is a libpam-systemd.deb with Debian #935304 fixed. But it would be a pain to maintain as we

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-10 Thread Mark Hindley
I have been further testing ways of migrating buster to beowulf. With a install of xfce4 and lightdm, the cleanest way I can come up with is: # Migrate from Debian buster to Devuan beowulf # Install devuan-keyring wget http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/pool/main/d/devuan-keyring/devuan-keyring

Re: [DNG] https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20190907.165012.d27df505.en.html

2019-09-08 Thread Mark Hindley
On Sat, Sep 07, 2019 at 11:16:20PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > This is the point we need a transitional package to temporarily satisfy > > > libpam-systemd's systemd-sysv dependency whilst the system is rebooted. > > It it there yet? If not, could you let us know when it arrives? I could >

Re: [DNG] https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20190907.165012.d27df505.en.html

2019-09-08 Thread Mark Hindley
On Sat, Sep 07, 2019 at 06:25:02PM +, NCW RC via Dng wrote: >I documented my test migration of a buster Xfce install at: > >https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=17716#p17716 Thanks. Yes, that mirrors my experience. I am hoping that I have a way to avoid the removal and reinstalla

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-06 Thread Mark Hindley
On Sat, Sep 07, 2019 at 11:04:00AM +1200, Daniel Reurich wrote: > On 07/09/19 07:30, Mark Hindley wrote: > But it should use libpam-elogind. Perhaps we need to ban libpam-systemd > to force the use of libpam-elogind instead. The only thing is we need > to check if their is a dep vers

Re: [DNG] Migrating from Buster to Beowulf - feedback needed

2019-09-06 Thread Mark Hindley
On Thu, Sep 05, 2019 at 11:27:03PM -0500, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > Dear Dev1ers, > > Many of you have asked how you can help Devuan. Well, here's an opportunity > - especially for those who keep asking when Beowulf will be released! I have just had a go in a couple of scenarios using a VM. T

Re: [DNG] Forced removal of 481 packages on ceres dist-upgrade

2019-04-05 Thread Mark Hindley
On Tue, Apr 02, 2019 at 11:24:42PM +0100, Nicola Orrù via Dng wrote: >Hi, all, >My first post to this list! >For the last couple of days I've been trying to keep up-to date on >Ceres, which I do quite regularly. >But now, If I run the usual >sudo apt-get -u dist-upgrade >

Re: [DNG] tried testing elogind and libelogind0 241.1-1

2019-03-12 Thread Mark Hindley
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 07:05:49PM +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > On 3/12/19 6:55 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > Let me hope those packages just have misdirected dependencies > > and that any I might use still work. > > packages complain because libsystemd0 is removed first during upgrade. > after

Re: [DNG] tried testing elogind and libelogind0 241.1-1

2019-03-12 Thread Mark Hindley
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 12:55:47PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 05:42:49PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 12:32:18PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > > [cut] > > > > > > > > Do I just have to do aptitude install elogind? > > > > > > > Just try: > > >

Re: [DNG] tried testing elogind and libelogind0 241.1-1

2019-03-12 Thread Mark Hindley
On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 12:32:18PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Tue, Mar 12, 2019 at 02:10:10PM +0000, Mark Hindley wrote: > > Hello all, > > > > We have just packaged a new upstream version of elogind (241.1) for Devuan. > > The > > packages have just hit c

[DNG] Request for testing of elogind and libelogind0 241.1-1

2019-03-12 Thread Mark Hindley
Hello all, We have just packaged a new upstream version of elogind (241.1) for Devuan. The packages have just hit ceres and beowulf and should be in mirrors within an hour. The Big News in this release is that, thanks to the persistence of CenturionDan and the excellent response of Sven upstream,

Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-12 Thread Mark Hindley
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 12:12:32PM +, Mark Hindley wrote: > > $ w > > 01:55:37 up 4 min, 1 user, load average: 0.21, 0.19, 0.09 > > USER TTY FROM LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT > > user :0.0 :0.0 01:51 ?xdm? 47.32s 0.2

Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-10 Thread Mark Hindley
On Sun, Mar 10, 2019 at 02:03:11AM +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > On 3/8/19 10:04 PM, Mark Hindley wrote: > > Would people who are experiencing missing slim utmp entries mind trying > > again > > with the following configuration added to /etc/slim.conf, please? > >

Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-08 Thread Mark Hindley
On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 08:31:33AM +1100, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > So, apparently 'slim' since long ago believes something else is > responsible for registring the session(s), but that something else > doesn't agree. Would people who are experiencing missing slim utmp entries mind trying a

Re: [DNG] new freedesktop "standard": /etc/machine-id

2019-03-08 Thread Mark Hindley
On Fri, Mar 08, 2019 at 02:23:20PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > Jaromil, > > this is currently managed by eudev in devuan and, IIRC, it is simply > regenerated as a random ID at each boot. I guess it's still there > because it is used by several things, including > session-management-related stuff. We

Re: [DNG] new freedesktop "standard": /etc/machine-id

2019-03-08 Thread Mark Hindley
On Fri, Mar 08, 2019 at 03:00:31PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > > Yes, elogind uses it. But I got upstream to take a patch which uses > > /var/lib/dbus/machine-id as an alternative to /etc/machine-id. > > > > and, IIRC, also /var/lib/dbus/machine-id is re-generated at boot > time. But we need to doubl

Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-07 Thread Mark Hindley
On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 11:07:41AM +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > On 3/7/19 2:00 AM, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: > > > > I get nothing listed when running 'w' and 'who'. Checking output of 'last' > > shows the reboot time correctly but my slim login doesn’t appear at all. > > same here. w u

Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-06 Thread Mark Hindley
On Wed, Mar 06, 2019 at 08:00:06PM +1100, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > Hmm .. a reboot sorted it(?) I had "0 users" before, but now I'm counted. Good! > I pulled in the updated slim (downgrade) into my ASCII laptop, and is > using consolekit (and xfce4), so maybe this is not a useful test at

Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-06 Thread Mark Hindley
On Wed, Mar 06, 2019 at 01:38:39PM +1100, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > slim doesn't seem to update /var/run/utmp and /var/log/wtmp anymore? > At least, I found 'sessreg' being commented out in /etc/slim.conf > Or is that me having done sleep-editing (again) maybe. > (My 'w' report is total nons

[DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-05 Thread Mark Hindley
Hello, We have a new version of slim in experimental (1.3.6-5+devuan6). It has been changed so that it now works with either elogind or consolekit2. It would be a great help to have it tested before it moves into ceres/beowulf. All reports of problems or success gratefully received. Thanks for y

Re: [DNG] [Solved] Help testing new policykit in Beowulf

2019-02-11 Thread Mark Hindley
On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 11:35:22PM +, stanz wrote: > > Could you make sure policykit-1-gnome is installed and then try again. > > Was Not Installed - installed, & after Reboot, IT WORKS! > > Would this fix make that package become a dependency(at install)? > > And would this justify a bug re

Re: [DNG] Help testing new policykit in Beowulf

2019-02-10 Thread Mark Hindley
On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 08:20:58PM +, stanz via Dng wrote: > Installed synaptic & bleachbit (as root) to test pkexec permissions...didn't > ask for password > or start programs. They do run as regular user and terminal with sudo. Could you make sure policykit-1-gnome is installed and then try

Re: [DNG] [cor...@debian.org: [SECURITY] [DSA 4371-1] apt security update]

2019-01-23 Thread Mark Hindley
On Tue, Jan 22, 2019 at 04:24:40PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > The full DSA is available below, and the corresponding CVE is at: > > https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2019-3462 > > The safest way would actually be to manually download the deb packages > of apt from the debian-security

Re: [DNG] Debian bug-squashing

2019-01-12 Thread Mark Hindley
On Sat, Jan 12, 2019 at 05:39:15PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > So I think you can just use your Devuan system. Yes, I now use Devuan installations for packaging for Debian without much trouble. I have separate Devuan and Debian pbuilder cow chroots and build inside whichever I need. Since li

Re: [DNG] Keep em coming

2018-10-21 Thread Mark Hindley
On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 06:54:25PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > Several of you emailed me with package name to add to the list I've > curated and the list G. Pape has curated. Here are the recent additions > from this mailing list: > > > acpid >

Re: [DNG] Upgrade from Devuan Jessie to ASCII fails with SIGILL on AMD K6

2018-09-29 Thread Mark Hindley
On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 01:48:01PM +0100, Mark Hindley wrote: > Hello, > > I have been migrating a venerable headless sytem from Debian Wheezy to Devuan. > > The migration from Debian Wheezy to Devuan Jessie was fine, however upgrading > to > Ascii has failed with Illeg

[DNG] Upgrade from Devuan Jessie to ASCII fails with SIGILL on AMD K6

2018-09-29 Thread Mark Hindley
Hello, I have been migrating a venerable headless sytem from Debian Wheezy to Devuan. The migration from Debian Wheezy to Devuan Jessie was fine, however upgrading to Ascii has failed with Illegal Instruction faults. I have managed to manually downgrade to Wheezy and the system seems stable agai

[DNG] Migrate from Debian Wheezy to Devuan ASCII

2018-08-31 Thread Mark Hindley
Hello, I have an old and venerable headless system that runs Debian Wheezy. Now Wheezy is EOL I need to upgrade without pulling in systemd and dbus. Devuan is the obvious choice. I can't find any specific instructions or report of Wheezy -> ASCII migration. Does anybody have experience of it? Ma