Re: [DNG] fdisk SD card partitioning question

2022-06-14 Thread Jim Jackson
On Mon, 13 Jun 2022, Andreas Messer wrote: > > Created a new partition 1 of type 'Linux' and of size 27.5 GiB. > > You shouldn't do that. Although its possible to "partition" SD-Cards, > this is not recommended. This is since SD-Cards have some kind of > knowledge about "how FATFS works" to op

Re: [DNG] ntp setup

2022-01-20 Thread Jim Jackson
On Thu, 20 Jan 2022, Steve Litt wrote: > Rick Moen said on Tue, 22 Jun 2021 01:51:35 -0700 > > >Quoting Olaf Meeuwissen (paddy-h...@member.fsf.org): > > > >> I think it's fair to point out that systemd-timesyncd only promises > >> Simple NTP (SNTP). How good a job it does of that is another m

Re: [DNG] Qt, KDE, unbelievable

2022-01-20 Thread Jim Jackson
On Thu, 20 Jan 2022, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > Read this: > > https://www.neowin.net/news/ads-may-be-coming-to-kde-the-popular-linux-desktop/ > Yes read it. Qt adding support for ADS. Any Open Source KDE/Qt program that did that would have the code that did it removed by debian strai

[DNG] Problem Updating firmware for Raspiberry Pi 4

2021-10-03 Thread Jim Jackson
Hi, I've just attempted to update the firmware on my Raspberry Pi4 I installed Beowulf Lite 64 bit for the Pi4 back in May this year and have just attempted to update the firmware ... # apt-get install raspi-firmware Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state i

Re: [DNG] Starting outline for the DNG Safe Programmer Certificate

2021-08-01 Thread Jim Jackson
On Fri, 30 Jul 2021, Steve Litt wrote: > idea, although one screenfull sounds a little too short for prose, to "one screenfull" what's that. When I started interactive programming it was on an teletype with continuous scroll of paper - you tended to print one or teo lines at a time - just t6

Re: [DNG] problem with apt after restore after crashed disk...

2021-07-01 Thread Jim Jackson
or downloading > the deb files, and it also presents all the meta information for > following up all dependencies. > > Ralph. > > On Thu, 1 Jul 2021 12:18:31 +0100 (BST) > Jim Jackson wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Thanks for the various comments on my pro

Re: [DNG] problem with apt after restore after crashed disk...

2021-07-01 Thread Jim Jackson
Hi all, Thanks for the various comments on my problem ... On Mon, 28 Jun 2021, Jim Jackson wrote: > Hi all, > > My Beowulf amd64 system hard drive crashed, and after I'd restored my > backup I've had problems with apt-get etc. > > apt-cache: relocation error:

Re: [DNG] problem with apt after restore after crashed disk...

2021-07-01 Thread Jim Jackson
On Thu, 1 Jul 2021, terryc wrote: > On Thu, 1 Jul 2021 09:46:02 +0100 (BST) > Jim Jackson wrote: > > > On Wed, 30 Jun 2021, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 28 Jun 2021 23:12:28 +0100 (BST), Jim wrote in message > > > : > > >

Re: [DNG] problem with apt after restore after crashed disk...

2021-07-01 Thread Jim Jackson
On Wed, 30 Jun 2021, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jun 2021 23:12:28 +0100 (BST), Jim wrote in message > : > > > On Mon, 28 Jun 2021, tempforever wrote: > > > > > Jim Jackson wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 28 Ju

Re: [DNG] problem with apt after restore after crashed disk...

2021-06-28 Thread Jim Jackson
On Mon, 28 Jun 2021, tempforever wrote: > Jim Jackson wrote: > > > > On Mon, 28 Jun 2021, ael wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 01:11:20PM +0100, Jim Jackson wrote: > > If not, can anyone tell where I can get the devuan libapt-pkg5.0 package > file?

Re: [DNG] problem with apt after restore after crashed disk... (fwd)

2021-06-28 Thread Jim Jackson
Sorry Ludovic for finger trouble and replying to you personally. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 18:12:30 From: Jim Jackson To: Ludovic Belli?re Cc: dng@lists.dyne.org Subject: Re: [DNG] problem with apt after restore after crashed disk... On Mon, 28 Jun 2021

Re: [DNG] problem with apt after restore after crashed disk...

2021-06-28 Thread Jim Jackson
e ping. That was because my rsync backup didn't use the -X options for extended attributes. I googled the magic setcap invocation and that was fixed. > too which warrant, as I said, a full reinstall of your system. This isn't windows, thank diety-of-choice :-) Jim > Cheers, &

Re: [DNG] problem with apt after restore after crashed disk...

2021-06-28 Thread Jim Jackson
On Mon, 28 Jun 2021, ael wrote: > On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 01:11:20PM +0100, Jim Jackson wrote: > > > > If not, can anyone tell where I can get the devuan libapt-pkg5.0 package > > file? > > # apt-file search libapt-private.so.0.0 > apt: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-g

[DNG] problem with apt after restore after crashed disk...

2021-06-28 Thread Jim Jackson
Hi all, My Beowulf amd64 system hard drive crashed, and after I'd restored my backup I've had problems with apt-get etc. apt-cache: relocation error: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libapt-private.so.0.0: symbol _ZN3URIcvNSt7__cxx1112basic_stringIcSt11char_traitsIcESaIcEEEB5cxx11Ev version APTPKG_

Re: [DNG] Netiquette

2021-03-21 Thread Jim Jackson
On Wed, 17 Mar 2021, Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > On Wed, 17 Mar 2021 12:53:58 + (GMT) > Jim Jackson wrote: > > > for the record alpine is broken in that area. As far as I can make > > out it just uses the subject line to "thread" emails (mo

Re: [DNG] Netiquette

2021-03-17 Thread Jim Jackson
On Wed, 3 Mar 2021, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting g4sra via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > > > What is the netiquette on this list for changing subject lines. > > I hate hijacking threads but I also hate breaking them. > > Which is the lesser of the two evils ? > > Standards-compliant mailers' thre

Re: [DNG] Jessie to Ascii upgrade

2020-11-20 Thread Jim Jackson
On Fri, 20 Nov 2020, Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: > > I'll second that - doing exactly the same - openbox and lxpanel, not > > even a filemanager. > > I do run a little file manager -- xfe. Lightweight. Make things so > much easier. I'd dread having to use the commandline instead. :) Comes

Re: [DNG] Jessie to Ascii upgrade

2020-11-20 Thread Jim Jackson
> > Some question(s) on that. > > It would seem that gnome is important to Beowulf - - -yes? > > I have been running light weight desktops like LXMT (I think it was) > > and now LXQT > > after I found the KDE was just too weighty. > > So I'll start with that one question - - - - does Beowulf mean

Re: [DNG] Zoom via Firefox

2020-10-28 Thread Jim Jackson
On Wed, 28 Oct 2020, ael wrote: > On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 at 11:10:18AM +0000, Jim Jackson wrote: > > > > Firefox sound works for showing videos etc. I have set mixer values so that > > I can record > > > > arecord -vvv -f dat -d 4 /tmp/a.wav > >

[DNG] Zoom via Firefox

2020-10-28 Thread Jim Jackson
Hi, I'm on Devuan Beowulf, running lightdm, openbox and lxpanel. I don't run pulseaudio, I just use ALSA for sound. Firefox sound works for showing videos etc. I have set mixer values so that I can record arecord -vvv -f dat -d 4 /tmp/a.wav and it plays back. So speakers and microphone wor

Re: [DNG] ..devuan to the rescue? Easiest possible newbie email server setup, ideas?

2020-09-24 Thread Jim Jackson
On Thu, 24 Sep 2020, Mark Rousell wrote: > On 24/09/2020 07:30, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > > > > in my opinion a home connection server smtp+imap/pop will not be very > > usable. most rbl's block dynamic addresses so you won't be able to > > deliver much... > > In some areas (e.g. the UK), the b

Re: [DNG] terminology

2020-08-24 Thread Jim Jackson
On Mon, 24 Aug 2020, Curtis Maurand via Dng wrote: > > On Aug 24, 2020, at 9:16 AM, Luciano Mannucci > > wrote: > > On Mon, 24 Aug 2020 08:52:55 -0400 > > fsmithred via Dng wrote: > >> I was told that everything in linux is a file, even your hardware. > > No,no, this is plan9... > > > it?s

Re: [DNG] OT: mpv drops GNOME support

2020-07-10 Thread Jim Jackson
On Thu, 9 Jul 2020, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > On 7/8/20 9:57 PM, Jim Jackson wrote: > > > > https://linuxreviews.org/Mpv_drops_GNOME_support > > > > the change was reverted, few hours later. > (just read commit comments.. ) what? No spoiler alert? Actually,

[DNG] OT: mpv drops GNOME support

2020-07-08 Thread Jim Jackson
https://linuxreviews.org/Mpv_drops_GNOME_support ... am I the only one to see similarities with the systemd situation? And both out of the same stable! Jim ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/

Re: [DNG] Upgrade problem [ ascii -> beowulf ] failed to boot, left at initramfs shell -- with fix and query

2020-07-07 Thread Jim Jackson
Forget it - you have Thank you. On Tue, 7 Jul 2020, Jim Jackson wrote: > > > > On Tue, 7 Jul 2020, Steve Litt wrote: > > > On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 18:58:48 -0400 > > Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > > > > > Doesn't systemd require a merged

Re: [DNG] Upgrade problem [ ascii -> beowulf ] failed to boot, left at initramfs shell -- with fix and query

2020-07-07 Thread Jim Jackson
On Tue, 7 Jul 2020, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 6 Jul 2020 18:58:48 -0400 > Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > > Doesn't systemd require a merged /usr partition? It sounds as if a > > systemd-ism has crept into our boot process. > > > > Fortunately I haven't upgraded my server to beowulf yet. > >

Re: [DNG] repository status problem?

2020-06-01 Thread Jim Jackson
On Mon, 1 Jun 2020, al3xu5 / dotcommon wrote: > Hi > > I am using Beowulf coming as upgrade from ASCII, with my sources.list pointing > to (using codenames): > > deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged beowulf main > > After Beowulf has become stable, I can't update anymore doing > > $ sudo apt-

[DNG] beowulf-stable-announce 404

2020-06-01 Thread Jim Jackson
On the devuan welcome page it says the current stable release is Beowulf 3.0.0 with a link to https://devuan.org/os/announce/beowulf-stable-announce which takes you to a 404! Do we have a problem? Jim ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org htt

Re: [DNG] Beowulf, and Apparmor's effect on bind9

2020-05-24 Thread Jim Jackson
> > > Any recommendations for a better panel? > > If you weren't on the list about 6 months ago, there was some > wonderfully enlightening discussion about de's and wm's that long ago > or more. I can find the exact dates if you want so you can find it in > the archives. Ah now you say that, i

Re: [DNG] Beowulf, and Apparmor's effect on bind9

2020-05-24 Thread Jim Jackson
On Sat, 23 May 2020, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Where does LXQt keep ist panel config? > ~/.config/lxqt/panel.conf Jim ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Beowulf, and Apparmor's effect on bind9

2020-05-23 Thread Jim Jackson
Generally, why does apparmor get installed on a dist-upgrade, when it wasn't there initially? It isn't as if it's a new "thing". I got it on my ascii -> beowulf upgrade, and removed it. My desktop was LXQt and the upgrade ignored some customisations. Among other minor iritants the LXQt-panel de

Re: [DNG] Device naming: was Felker Init: was without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-20 Thread Jim Jackson
[gets reply recipient right this time, sorry for the personal email last time Rick] On Tue, 19 May 2020, Rick Moen via Dng wrote: > You did, of course, say _unique_ partition labels, which avoids that > gentleman's quite perplexing problem. The uniqueness problem is easier to manage when it's

Re: [DNG] Device naming: was Felker Init: was without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-19 Thread Jim Jackson
On Mon, 18 May 2020, Rick Moen via Dng wrote: > (I do detachable backups to external USB hard drives, and make a point of > doing 'dmesg | tail' before mounting, to make sure it really is > /dev/sdc1 this time.) My detachable backups devices have unique partitions labels and I place a specifi

Re: [DNG] Upto date copy of QGIS ...

2020-05-06 Thread Jim Jackson
Many thanks to you and Gastón for the info. Very useful. Installing version 3 on ascii didn't work as you predicted. So update time. All the best and sorry for top posting. Jim On Wed, 6 May 2020, al3xu5 / dotcommon wrote: > Tue, 5 May 2020 22:32:34 +0100 (BST) - Jim Jackson : >

[DNG] Upto date copy of QGIS ...

2020-05-05 Thread Jim Jackson
Hi, I'm seeking advice. I need a more upto date version of QGIS, geographical information system, than is in ASCII - I need a version 3. On the QGIS downloads site ... https://qgis.org/en/site/forusers/alldownloads.html#linux It gives info for adding to sources.list for debian/ubuntu systems.

Re: [DNG] Which DE?

2020-02-25 Thread Jim Jackson
On Tue, 25 Feb 2020, al3xu5 / dotcommon wrote: > Hi all > > I am using Devuan (2.1) + MATE DE since 08/2016... > Now I wish to change DE but I am in doubt: XFCE or LXDE or LXQt??? You've had lots of comments, but nobody has asked you WHY you wish to change. What is wrong with MATE, for you?

[DNG] you've got to smile ...

2020-01-23 Thread Jim Jackson
systemE A lightweight systemd replacement written in Emacs lisp https://github.com/a-schaefers/systemE ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] raspberry pi build - missing lines in /proc/cpuinfo

2019-12-15 Thread Jim Jackson
On Sun, 15 Dec 2019, s@po wrote: > For me, the Most valuable information is: > CPU implementer : 0x41 > CPU part: 0xc07 > > > CPU implementer : 0x41 > > In this case the Implementer is ARM Itself( so.. its a ARM stock design.. ), > even tough that the chip has its own name and compa

Re: [DNG] Insane defaults on Raspberry Pi images - How to fix corruption/dataloss

2019-12-06 Thread Jim Jackson
On Thu, 28 Nov 2019, Adrian Zaugg wrote: > > On 08.11.19 17:13, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > PS: Being Raspberry Pi specific, I do not know why Raspbian does not use > > F2FS, but that does not exclude Devuan from using it. > > There are some alternatives to F2FS like UBIFS and a few others. As

Re: [DNG] Insane defaults on Raspberry Pi images - How to fix corruption/dataloss

2019-11-12 Thread Jim Jackson
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019, Simon Hobson wrote: > Ah yes, to think that many of us routinely carry around in our pockets > more storage, RAM, and CPU capacity than we could have dreamed of having > access to back when I got into IT. Cue obligatory Four Yorkshiremen > sketch :D > https://www.youtub

Re: [DNG] Insane defaults on Raspberry Pi images - How to fix corruption/dataloss

2019-11-12 Thread Jim Jackson
On Tue, 12 Nov 2019, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote: > Needless to state, although it seems, it is actually needed for some > people, the Raspberry Pi is not a full blown server, although it can > be used by the hobbyist adolescent who wants to experiment and learn. :-) Like everything, it depe

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid from scratch

2019-06-11 Thread Jim Jackson
On Tue, 11 Jun 2019, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 15:01:53 +0100 > s@po wrote: > > > On Mon, 10 Jun 2019 13:34:54 +0100 (BST) > > Jim Jackson wrote: > > > > > > > > sizeof() is calculated by the compiler, not at run time

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid from scratch

2019-06-10 Thread Jim Jackson
On Sat, 8 Jun 2019, s@po wrote: > On Sat, 1 Jun 2019 08:31:49 + > aitor_czr wrote: > > Hello aitor, > > > > > Look at the "netstat.c" file again. I'm using > > > > status = fgets ( buffer, sizeof(buffer), fp ); > > > > instead :) > > > > Aitor. > > > > > > I understood that, from

Re: [DNG] Way forward

2019-04-14 Thread Jim Jackson
On Sun, 14 Apr 2019, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote: > After all what happened i cannot take Devuan seriously any longer. And I > absolutely do not want my systems depending on a distro with such a > uncertain future. I find this somewhat amusing. Have you ever followed the linux kernel

Re: [DNG] [SOLVED] Error building vdev in devuan beowulf

2019-02-15 Thread Jim Jackson
On Fri, 15 Feb 2019, aitor_czr wrote: > > > Sorry for the typing and size changes throughout some of my emails, it happens > to me using thunderbird. I'll switch to clawsmail :) > > Aitor. Set thunderbird to text email NOT html. Any way I didn't see any "typing and size changes" as I use a t

Re: [DNG] mailing list software

2018-12-15 Thread Jim Jackson
On Wed, 12 Dec 2018, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Jim Jackson (j...@franjam.org.uk): > > > Just an aside - what are the alternatives to procmail? > > so far I've only found _maildrop_ as an in-line delivery filter. > > Most-often mentioned alternative LDA

Re: [DNG] mailing list software

2018-12-12 Thread Jim Jackson
On Wed, 12 Dec 2018, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Lars Nood??n via Dng (dng@lists.dyne.org): > > > It's probably a time that Procmail be retired, and thus anything based > > on it. There have been a lot of reports in recent years of serious, > > unsafe bugs in its processing. However, there is

Re: [DNG] RFC - Linux From Scratch

2018-12-09 Thread Jim Jackson
On Fri, 7 Dec 2018, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote: > > I have already hit issues in Devuan that have been inherited from > > Debian. The initramfs\initrd should (and used to) do one thing and do it > > well. It is now so convolutely complex you can do away with the root > > filesystem a

Re: [DNG] Speak now, or forever hold your peace

2018-10-25 Thread Jim Jackson
On Wed, 24 Oct 2018, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > Thank you Olaf, > > $ logger -h > > Now to study what this is all about. man logger will give more information ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/list

Re: [DNG] Devuan and the raspberry pi 3+

2018-08-22 Thread Jim Jackson
On Wed, 22 Aug 2018, Lars Noodén wrote: > On 08/21/2018 11:24 PM, Jim Jackson wrote: > > On Mon, 20 Aug 2018, Lars Noodén wrote: > >> I used devuan_ascii_2.0.0_arm64_raspi3 from the embedded sets running > >> on the 3B+ > >> You do have to resize the root

Re: [DNG] Devuan and the raspberry pi 3+

2018-08-21 Thread Jim Jackson
On Mon, 20 Aug 2018, Lars Noodén wrote: > On 8/20/18, Jim Jackson wrote: > > There are images of Devuan ASCII for the Raspberry Pi 3. Anyone know if > > these are ok for the 3+? Or would I need to run the image on a model 3 and > > update the firmware and kernel b

[DNG] Devuan and the raspberry pi 3+

2018-08-20 Thread Jim Jackson
There are images of Devuan ASCII for the Raspberry Pi 3. Anyone know if these are ok for the 3+? Or would I need to run the image on a model 3 and update the firmware and kernel before moving to the 3+? cheers Jim Jackson ___ Dng mailing list Dng

Re: [DNG] He's Baaaack! Re: A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-09 Thread Jim Jackson
a troll. Apologies to the list to causing more wasted resources. cheers Jim Jackson (not the other JJ - check my web site franjam.org.uk ) > OH fornication, its bck > Who's trolling. Your count so far; > 1. Provides no supporting evidence of its claims. > 2.

Re: [DNG] A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-09 Thread Jim Jackson
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 07/09/2018 03:53 AM, KatolaZ wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 03:42:40AM -0700, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > > > > [cut] > > > > > > > > > > > Well some of those kernel experts are saying you need to check your > > > kernel. > > > Also how you respo

Re: [Dng] Which package generates /lib/systemd and /etc/systemd files?

2015-05-06 Thread Jim Jackson
Apoligies for the finger trouble - I hit send instead of cancel. On Wed, 6 May 2015, Jim Jackson wrote: > > > > On Tue, 5 May 2015, Anto wrote: > > On 05/05/15 16:05, David Hare wrote: > > > > > > > The decision in Debian to default the init system t

Re: [Dng] Which package generates /lib/systemd and /etc/systemd files?

2015-05-06 Thread Jim Jackson
On Tue, 5 May 2015, Anto wrote: > On 05/05/15 16:05, David Hare wrote: > > > > > The decision in Debian to default the init system to systemd > > > is the main reason to fork Debian in the first place. > > > > Not exactly.. The reason is Debian's decision to *require* systemd with the > > only

Re: [Dng] Another reason of why I am considering Devuan

2015-04-03 Thread Jim Jackson
> > Where i come from ISP's dynamic IP lease times are *very* long, you > > need to reboot the home router to get a new IP and even then you may > > get the same IP. It's not that dynamic, at all. Add that with data > > your browser provides, your *.google.com in|direct usage, etc... it's > > easy