Re: [DNG] double negative

2020-12-25 Thread Simon Walter
On 12/26/20 2:31 AM, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 10:07:57AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 00:18:55 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: Quoting Didier Kryn (k...@in2p3.fr):     Just to remind, if you forgot it.     There's one known case where double positive means negat

Re: [DNG] Historical note on double negation.

2020-12-25 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 08:47:50PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com): > > > I've been told that was the case in a long-gonne ancestor of modern > > English, possible Old English or the language of Beowulf. > > It's not quite the same thing, but I am suddenly

Re: [DNG] Vdev [ was Re: if2mac init.d service for persistent network interface names]

2020-12-25 Thread terryc
On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 12:18:10 -0500 Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 08:53:53AM -0800, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > On 2020-12-25 10:21, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > Hearing this thread's perplexity, I long for the days of mknod. > > > > But that wouldn't have helped with the network

Re: [DNG] if2mac init.d service for persistent network interface names

2020-12-25 Thread aitor
Hi, On 25/12/20 22:41, aitor wrote: Hi, On 23/12/20 21:56, aitor wrote: Another way might be the use of vdev actions, but vdev is a work in progress. Indeed, vdev already has a helper for that: https://github.com/jcnelson/vdev/blob/master/vdevd/helpers/LINUX/ifname.sh

Re: [DNG] if2mac init.d service for persistent network interface names

2020-12-25 Thread aitor
Hi, On 23/12/20 21:56, aitor wrote: Another way might be the use of vdev actions, but vdev is a work in progress. Indeed, vdev already has a helper for  that: https://github.com/jcnelson/vdev/blob/master/vdevd/helpers/LINUX/ifname.sh

Re: [DNG] if2mac init.d service for persistent network interface names

2020-12-25 Thread aitor
Hi, On 23/12/20 21:56, aitor wrote: Another way might be the use of vdev actions, but vdev is a work in progress. Indeed, vdev already has a helper for that: https://github.com/jcnelson/vdev/blob/master/vdevd/helpers/LINUX/ifname.sh

Re: [DNG] Overlay filesystems and readonly partition mounts.

2020-12-25 Thread Edward Bartolo via Dng
Dear All, I read the suggested shell script to provide an overlay filesystem in Raspbian and found nothing that can damage my setup. I will use that script. All file writes will directed to RAM. Edward -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) If

Re: [DNG] double negative

2020-12-25 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 10:07:57AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 00:18:55 -0800 > Rick Moen wrote: > > > Quoting Didier Kryn (k...@in2p3.fr): > > > > >     Just to remind, if you forgot it. > > > > > >     There's one known case where double positive means negative: > > > C++

Re: [DNG] Vdev [ was Re: if2mac init.d service for persistent network interface names]

2020-12-25 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 08:53:53AM -0800, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2020-12-25 10:21, Steve Litt wrote: > > > Hearing this thread's perplexity, I long for the days of mknod. > > But that wouldn't have helped with the network interfaces, because (in > an un-Unixy way) their names have never been f

Re: [DNG] Historical note on double negation.

2020-12-25 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Dec 24, 2020 at 08:53:01PM -0800, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Ian Zimmerman (i...@very.loosely.org): > > > But if "and" is a conjunction in this sentence pattern, the nouns or > > pronouns it joins together form the subject, and so they ought to be in > > the nominative, i.e. "John and I".

[DNG] Overlay filesystems and readonly partition mounts.

2020-12-25 Thread Edward Bartolo via Dng
Dear All, I would like to harden my Raspberry Pi music player to prevent filesystem damage on power failures. Reading about how to boot the Pi in readonly mode, I found there is a script which can do the job without much bothering on my part. However, it is better to find a custom solution rather

Re: [DNG] Vdev [ was Re: if2mac init.d service for persistent network interface names]

2020-12-25 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2020-12-25 10:21, Steve Litt wrote: > Hearing this thread's perplexity, I long for the days of mknod. But that wouldn't have helped with the network interfaces, because (in an un-Unixy way) their names have never been file names on the systems we're discussing now. -- Ian ___

Re: [DNG] if2mac init.d service for persistent network interface names

2020-12-25 Thread tito via Dng
On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 10:09:18 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 09:57:43 +0100 > tito via Dng wrote: > > > On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 21:11:49 -0500 > > Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 16:32:18 +0100 > > > tito via Dng wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 10:10:07

Re: [DNG] Vdev [ was Re: if2mac init.d service for persistent network interface names]

2020-12-25 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 08:33:47 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: >     Aitor I think you are the only person who knows vdev in depth. > Therefore only you can decide what the best approach is, keeping in > mind the amount of work is implied by the maintenance. I also agree > that a tool to compile the data

Re: [DNG] double negative

2020-12-25 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 05:19:06 -0600 o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 2:22 AM aitor wrote: > > > > On 25/12/20 9:18, Rick Moen wrote: > > > > Just to remind, if you forgot it. > > > > There's one known case where double positive means negative: C++ > > > >"Yeah, yeah

Re: [DNG] if2mac init.d service for persistent network interface names

2020-12-25 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 09:57:43 +0100 tito via Dng wrote: > On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 21:11:49 -0500 > Steve Litt wrote: > > > On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 16:32:18 +0100 > > tito via Dng wrote: > > > > > On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 10:10:07 -0500 > > > Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > > > On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 23:41:5

Re: [DNG] double negative

2020-12-25 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 00:18:55 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Didier Kryn (k...@in2p3.fr): > > >     Just to remind, if you forgot it. > > > >     There's one known case where double positive means negative: > > C++ > >"Yeah, yeah." > > (The gag may not travel well, so: At least in som

Re: [DNG] Historical note on double negation.

2020-12-25 Thread Harald Arnesen via Dng
Rick Moen [25.12.2020 05:47]: > Here, my gift to thee and thee, for the Jul holiday (and let us remember > Poul and his wife Karen fondly): He was one of the great SF writers, sorely missed. -- Hilsen Harald ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org http

Re: [DNG] double negative

2020-12-25 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
On Fri, Dec 25, 2020 at 2:22 AM aitor wrote: > > On 25/12/20 9:18, Rick Moen wrote: > > Just to remind, if you forgot it. > > There's one known case where double positive means negative: C++ > >"Yeah, yeah." > > (The gag may not travel well, so: At least in some USA regions, > the phr

Re: [DNG] if2mac init.d service for persistent network interface names

2020-12-25 Thread tito via Dng
On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 21:11:49 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 16:32:18 +0100 > tito via Dng wrote: > > > On Thu, 24 Dec 2020 10:10:07 -0500 > > Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 23:41:58 +0100 > > > Didier Kryn wrote: > > > > > > > Le 23/12/2020 à 22:03, Antony

Re: [DNG] double negative

2020-12-25 Thread aitor
On 25/12/20 9:18, Rick Moen wrote:     Just to remind, if you forgot it.     There's one known case where double positive means negative: C++ "Yeah, yeah." (The gag may not travel well, so: At least in some USA regions, the phrase "Yeah, yeah" is something of a dismissive phrase with me

Re: [DNG] double negative

2020-12-25 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Didier Kryn (k...@in2p3.fr): >     Just to remind, if you forgot it. > >     There's one known case where double positive means negative: C++ "Yeah, yeah." (The gag may not travel well, so: At least in some USA regions, the phrase "Yeah, yeah" is something of a dismissive phrase wi