Re: [DNG] Redhat EEEs CentOS?

2020-12-10 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting vmlinux (vmli...@charter.net): > Embrace, Extend, Extinguish? Shocking but not surprising. Even more reason > for Devuan to exist. > > https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/12/centos-shifts-from-red-hat-unbranded-to-red-hat-beta/ From: Rick Moen via Sb Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2020 23:41:46

Re: [DNG] What I learned at Distrowatch

2020-12-10 Thread Mason Loring Bliss
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 10:31:38PM -0500, Mason Loring Bliss wrote: > Also, for laughs, in Beowulf, the xdm binary consumes 117K on disk, There's a pandemic on, so I'll forgive myself a little OCD. Sorted by RSS: $ ps uq 21538 USER PID %CPU %MEMVSZ RSS TTY STAT START TIME COM

Re: [DNG] What I learned at Distrowatch

2020-12-10 Thread Mason Loring Bliss
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 02:42:30PM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > Wait a minute. When you say "without GUI", do you mean no X installed, > or do you mean it lacks the display manager to boot directly into X? > The former precludes desktop use; the latter is how I use my computer > every day, because s

Re: [DNG] What I learned at Distrowatch

2020-12-10 Thread Adrian Zaugg
On 10.12.20 20:42, Steve Litt wrote: > On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 01:40:39 +0100 > Adrian Zaugg wrote: > > Wait a minute. When you say "without GUI", do you mean no X installed, I just mean no GUI, because with a GUI I don't know exactly. I know there are some Desktop environments that need it, it se

Re: [DNG] What I learned at Distrowatch

2020-12-10 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 10 Dec 2020 01:40:39 +0100 Adrian Zaugg wrote: > On 01.12.20 15:16, Mason Loring Bliss wrote: > > This brings us to the other thing worthy of note. Try sometime to > > install Devuan (not Debian, Devuan) without systemd and you'll be > > in for a rude shock. It's installed by default, and

[DNG] Redhat EEEs CentOS?

2020-12-10 Thread vmlinux
Embrace, Extend, Extinguish? Shocking but not surprising. Even more reason for Devuan to exist. https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2020/12/centos-shifts-from-red-hat-unbranded-to-red-hat-beta/ ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dy

Re: [DNG] What I learned at Distrowatch

2020-12-10 Thread aitor
Hi Adrian, On 12/10/20 12:46 PM, Adrian Zaugg wrote: Hi aitor $ apt-rdepends openssh-server Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done openssh-server Depends: adduser (>= 3.9) Depends: debconf (>= 0.5) Depends: debconf-2.0 Depends: dpkg

Re: [DNG] What I learned at Distrowatch

2020-12-10 Thread Adrian Zaugg
Hi aitor $ apt-rdepends openssh-server Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done openssh-server Depends: adduser (>= 3.9) Depends: debconf (>= 0.5) Depends: debconf-2.0 Depends: dpkg (>= 1.9.0) Depends: libaudit1 (>= 1:2.2.1) Depends: libc

Re: [DNG] What I learned at Distrowatch

2020-12-10 Thread aitor
Hi again, On 12/10/20 11:31 AM, aitor wrote: Hi Adrian On 12/10/20 1:40 AM, Adrian Zaugg wrote: libsystemd0 gets pulled in by openssh-server and thus is present on many of my systems – unfortunately. This is for the ssh-agent service, used by systemd, which should be optional. This is i

Re: [DNG] What I learned at Distrowatch

2020-12-10 Thread aitor
Hi Adrian On 12/10/20 1:40 AM, Adrian Zaugg wrote: libsystemd0 gets pulled in by openssh-server and thus is present on many of my systems – unfortunately. This is for the ssh-agent service, used by systemd, which should be optional. Cheers, Aitor.