Re: [DNG] Has anybody else experienced Raspberry Pi breakage ?

2020-05-17 Thread g4sra via Dng
On 17/05/2020 20:26, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Anno domini 2020 Sun, 17 May 13:20:13 +0100 > g4sra via Dng scripsit: >> I have an old Rpi 2B that will boot its original Raspbian fine but panics >> 'killing init' on Devuan. >> Has anybody else experienced this ? >> >> The only difference I can

Re: [DNG] Has anybody else experienced Raspberry Pi breakage ?

2020-05-17 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Anno domini 2020 Sun, 17 May 13:20:13 +0100 g4sra via Dng scripsit: > I have an old Rpi 2B that will boot its original Raspbian fine but panics > 'killing init' on Devuan. > Has anybody else experienced this ? > > The only difference I can discern is that the Devuan repository executables > (i

Re: [DNG] Felker Init: was without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-17 Thread Steve Litt
On Sun, 17 May 2020 13:46:28 +0200 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 16/05/2020 à 11:30, Steve Litt a écrit : > > On Fri, 15 May 2020 14:44:06 -1000 > > Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > > > > > >> Reminds me to revisit https://ewontfix.com/14/ > >> for Felker's Broken by Design article on systemd. > > That

Re: [DNG] Has anybody else experienced Raspberry Pi breakage ?

2020-05-17 Thread tom
On Sun, 17 May 2020 13:20:13 +0100 g4sra via Dng wrote: > I have an old Rpi 2B that will boot its original Raspbian fine but > panics 'killing init' on Devuan. Has anybody else experienced this ? > > The only difference I can discern is that the Devuan repository > executables (init) are compil

Re: [DNG] Felker Init: was without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-17 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 16 May 2020 22:04:51 +0100 tux...@sapo.pt wrote: > Hello, > > Citando Steve Litt : > > > It's such a shame. Runit and s6 were both there, waiting to be > > picked up and used. Both were 10 times easier than sysvinit. But > > n. > > All init systems that want to be taken seriou

Re: [DNG] Device naming: was Felker Init: was without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-17 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 16 May 2020 13:10:23 -0700 Rick Moen via Dng wrote: > Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > > > If you're referring to the ethernet device being eno1 or > > enWhichUSB22 instead of eth0, or wxbd3 or wl21Poettering423 instead > > of wlan0, I prefer the new way. Here's why: >

Re: [DNG] Device naming: was Felker Init: was without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-17 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 16/05/2020 à 22:10, Rick Moen via Dng a écrit : Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): If you're referring to the ethernet device being eno1 or enWhichUSB22 instead of eth0, or wxbd3 or wl21Poettering423 instead of wlan0, I prefer the new way. Here's why: No, that's not what I mean

[DNG] Has anybody else experienced Raspberry Pi breakage ?

2020-05-17 Thread g4sra via Dng
I have an old Rpi 2B that will boot its original Raspbian fine but panics 'killing init' on Devuan. Has anybody else experienced this ? The only difference I can discern is that the Devuan repository executables (init) are compiled as PIE. Any suggestions to further the diagnosis of this issue

Re: [DNG] Felker Init: was without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-17 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 16/05/2020 à 11:30, Steve Litt a écrit : On Fri, 15 May 2020 14:44:06 -1000 Joel Roth via Dng wrote: Reminds me to revisit https://ewontfix.com/14/ for Felker's Broken by Design article on systemd. That web page changed my life. When I saw, on that page, how simple PID1 could really be, t

Re: [DNG] Check default_transport if you can't send email through Postfix

2020-05-17 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 5/16/20 11:49 PM, tux...@sapo.pt wrote: > The only thing it has in favor( we could join to that a simpler way of > configuration, no m4 needed like Sendmail), > it consumes horrendous amounts of resources.. with no explanation for > such hog resources behavior.. but it lacks a ton of features fr

Re: [DNG] Felker Init: was without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-17 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 5/17/20 12:04 AM, tux...@sapo.pt wrote: > But is a major flaw, being it a init system for a operating system, and > not beign able to run shell scripts( systemd has also this limitation.. ).. you're right about s6, but wrong about systemd. you can run shell scripts with that bloated beast. s

Re: [DNG] Felker Init: was without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-17 Thread dal
Hello Steve, > This enraged me: > The fact that a Troubleshooting Trainer could make an init in a couple > weeks, yet the Redhat/Freedesktop/Poettering axis was telling us what a > complex thing an init was. They have in mind their own, different from yours and mine, idea of how the computers ar

Re: [DNG] tobacco patch?

2020-05-17 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, Ian Zimmerman writes: > On 2020-05-16 16:51, Hendrik Boom wrote: > >> What do you mean by "tobacco patch"? > > It's an analogy with a medical device used to help smokers with quitting. I think in Europe it's better known as a nicotine patch. Hope this helps, -- Olaf Meeuwissen, LPIC-2

Re: [DNG] tobacco patch? (OT)

2020-05-17 Thread spiralofhope
On Sat, 16 May 2020 18:13:58 -0700 Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2020-05-16 16:51, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > What do you mean by "tobacco patch"? > > It's an analogy with a medical device used to help smokers with > quitting. Aah. I would say "nicotine patch". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nico