On Mon, 19 Nov 2018 00:34:58 +, Daniel wrote in message
<5a3caca3-ebb2-9ab9-014d-0fe49f6f1...@danielabrecht.ch>:
> On 18/11/2018 00.45, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > ..you want to do a separate "make repo" and a "make clean-repo-too",
> > and possibly move the repo out of the build/ tree, say, to r
On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 20:52:26 +, Simon wrote in message
<3a91e5c4-1603-40b5-b560-3f8bc8945...@thehobsons.co.uk>:
> goli...@dyne.org wrote:
>
> > So . . . if the choice to avoid the merge is only available
> > with debian-installer what does that mean for the live isos? Will
> > they be c
Sorry to disappoint you, but it Just Doesn't Work.
On 18/11/18 at 10:18, aitor_czr wrote:
>
> Hendrik, you can uncompress the content of the initrd.img by the
> following way:
>
> 1) Rename it to initrd.gz and use gunzip:
>
> # mv initrd.img initrd.gz
> # gunzip initrd.gz
1) You assume the i
On 18/11/2018 00.45, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
..you want to do a separate "make repo" and a "make clean-repo-too",
and possibly move the repo out of the build/ tree, say, to repo/ or
repos/ if you have multiple repos now or later.
Ok, all git repos are now cloned into the repo/ folder. I've also add
On 18/11/18 01:24, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 09:14:06PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
>>
>> # Those are a non-serious suggestion and a rethorical question, in case
>> # that didn't come across.
>>
>> So, I'm against a *forced* /usr merge. I hope Debian does the right
>
On 2018年11月17日 20:57:23 JST, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>On 16/11/18 at 11:43, KatolaZ wrote:
>> On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 10:19:30AM +, Rowland Penny wrote:
>>
>> [cut]
>>
>>> So, after reading Steve's enlightening description, I am with him,
>the
>>> merge is only needed by systemd and seems to b
On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 02:29:43PM -0600, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> So . . . if the choice to avoid the merge is only available with
> debian-installer what does that mean for the live isos? Will they be
> configured with or without the merge as default? That's a decision that
> needs to be d
On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 10:11:50AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> Changed the subject to a more appropriate one.
You should have split the thread too, assuming your MUA supports
that. Doing so starting with this post. It would be appreciated if we
can please keep the replies in a thread properly spl
goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> So . . . if the choice to avoid the merge is only available with
> debian-installer what does that mean for the live isos? Will they be
> configured with or without the merge as default?
Does it make any difference at all on a live ISO ? If it's setup merged, then
Aitor:
...
> Hendrik, you can uncompress the content of the initrd.img by the
> following way:
>
> 1) Rename it to initrd.gz and use gunzip:
>
> # mv initrd.img initrd.gz
> # gunzip initrd.gz
>
> 2) After that, you can extract the files using cpio:
>
> # mkdir tmp
> # cd tmp
> # cpio -id < ../
On 2018-11-18 02:32, KatolaZ wrote:
Besides the drama: we built yesterday a preliminary version of the
debian-installer for beowulf which has an explicit opt-in question for
usrmerge:
https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dists/unstable/main/installer-amd64/current/
and defaults to the classica
On 18/11/18 at 17:11, Rowland Penny wrote:
> No it isn't, 'has been' means in the past 'to be' means in the the
> future, as in 'has been seen' and 'to be seen'.
>
> But what do I know, I have only been speaking English for the last 62
> years, ever since I moved on from 'goo-goo-gaga' baby talk ;-
On 18/11/18 at 16:11, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> 'has been' is a perfect tense for 'to be'. Combined with the *past*
> participle of "cheered", it makes a passive verb.
And I thought Perl was a mess... 😀
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On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 16:11:38 +, Rowland wrote in message
<20181118161138.22cb1...@devstation.samdom.example.com>:
> On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 10:11:50 -0500
> Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> > Changed the subject to a more appropriate one.
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 01:52:01PM +0100, Alessandro Sel
Hi,
On Fri, 16 Nov 2018 at 12:11, Daniel Reurich
wrote:
> Hi Devuan followers, fans and friends,
>
> Debian as of the upcoming Buster release looks to be implementing a
> merged /usr by default. At this stage there is no plan to make it
> forced... but you never know what happens when their Tec
On 11/18/2018 11:11 AM, Rowland Penny wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 10:11:50 -0500
Hendrik Boom wrote:
Changed the subject to a more appropriate one.
On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 01:52:01PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
On 18/11/18 at 13:36, Rowland Penny wrote:
On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 13:24:51 +0100
On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 10:11:50 -0500
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> Changed the subject to a more appropriate one.
>
> On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 01:52:01PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> > On 18/11/18 at 13:36, Rowland Penny wrote:
> > > On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 13:24:51 +0100
> > > Alessandro Selli wrote:
> >
Changed the subject to a more appropriate one.
On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 01:52:01PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On 18/11/18 at 13:36, Rowland Penny wrote:
> > On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 13:24:51 +0100
> > Alessandro Selli wrote:
> >
> >> On 18/11/18 at 10:46, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> >>
> >>> The
On 18/11/18 at 13:36, Rowland Penny wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 13:24:51 +0100
> Alessandro Selli wrote:
>
>> On 18/11/18 at 10:46, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
>>
>>> The most important aspect here is: "has been". Its in the past
>>> already and it does not determine the future.
>> Maybe not. If
On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 01:09:59PM +0100, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:
> On 18-11-18 09:36, KatolaZ wrote:
> > This is not gonna happen, given for instance the way our presence in
> > debian-devel has been "cheered up" (with aggressive posts and personal
> > insults). The truth is that to
On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 13:24:51 +0100
Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On 18/11/18 at 10:46, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
>
> > KatolaZ - 18.11.18, 09:36:
> >> This is not gonna happen, given for instance the way our presence
> >> in debian-devel has been "cheered up" (with aggressive posts and
> >> personal
On 18/11/18 at 13:09, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:
> Just my 2 cents.
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On 18/11/18 at 10:46, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> KatolaZ - 18.11.18, 09:36:
>> This is not gonna happen, given for instance the way our presence in
>> debian-devel has been "cheered up" (with aggressive posts and personal
> The most important aspect here is: "has been". Its in the past already
>
On 18-11-18 09:36, KatolaZ wrote:
> This is not gonna happen, given for instance the way our presence in
> debian-devel has been "cheered up" (with aggressive posts and personal
> insults). The truth is that too many people have a problem with other
> people not liking systemd and not wanting it ar
On 18/11/18 at 09:32, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 12:22:18AM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
>> Devuan was born to remedy a wrong turn taken by Debian's Technical
>> Committee, the VUAs who launched the project decided to take into their
>> hands the burden of reinstating
On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 10:40:47AM +0100, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> KatolaZ - 18.11.18, 09:40:
> > On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 04:51:43PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
> […]
> > > ACK. Just like to point out that Devuan might run into packages
> > > that
> > > have already moved programs that really
KatolaZ - 18.11.18, 09:36:
> On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 01:08:41AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 12:22:18AM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> > > I'm well aware of the present limitations that make it
> > > impossible to let Devuan be an indipendent distribution: too
> > > l
KatolaZ - 18.11.18, 09:40:
> On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 04:51:43PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
[…]
> > ACK. Just like to point out that Devuan might run into packages
> > that
> > have already moved programs that really ought to be in /bin or /sbin
> > over to /usr/bin and /usr/sbin.
> >
> > Image
hi Olaf!
Am Sonntag, 18. November 2018 schrieb Olaf Meeuwissen:
> > Just for the fun of applied paranoia: How do you ensure that nobody
> > tempered with your eeprom? Did you seal it propperly after you made
> > the chip readonly? If not, then you still have the same problem, just
> > a level high
Hi,
On 11/17/2018 02:45 PM, Alessandro Selli wrote:
On 16/11/18 at 21:01, Simon Hobson wrote:
Hendrik Boom wrote:
(1) Is initramfs so weird that only one or two people in the world can make one?
**AT THE MOMENT** no it isn't. AIUI (and I stand to be corrected) it's simply a
CPIO archive th
On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 04:51:43PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:
[cut]
>
> ACK. Just like to point out that Devuan might run into packages that
> have already moved programs that really ought to be in /bin or /sbin
> over to /usr/bin and /usr/sbin.
>
> Image bash getting installed in /usr/bin/
On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 01:08:41AM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 12:22:18AM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> > I'm well aware of the present limitations that make it impossible to
> > let Devuan be an indipendent distribution: too little manpower behind it
> > and too llit
On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 12:22:18AM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
[cut]
>
> Devuan was born to remedy a wrong turn taken by Debian's Technical
> Committee, the VUAs who launched the project decided to take into their
> hands the burden of reinstating to the fullest user's freedom of
> choice.
So, respondents essentially are writing what I wrote, but in more
grandiose writing styles. Instead of appealing to the general and
writing in abstruct ways, they choose to write giving endless concrete
describtions. Well, Pedagogy, the science of teaching methods,
strongly insists on using concret
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