[DNG] devuan from scratch?

2018-06-16 Thread Edward Bartolo
I do not use debootstrap for educational purposes but to bypass installer misbehaviour.For instance, I remember using it when the installer obstinately wanted to force me to use LVM (Logical Volume Management). This happened both under Debian and Devuan. On other occasions, the installer came to a

Re: [DNG] Refracta no-dbus experiment

2018-06-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 16 Jun 2018 22:39:51 -0400, Steve wrote in message <20180616223951.23a1c...@mydesk.domain.cxm>: > > Linus has been critical of the protocol design. At the time > > the kdbus kernel module was proposed, He said that flaws in > > in the protocol are to blame for poor performance rather > >

Re: [DNG] what happened to usbmount?

2018-06-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 16 Jun 2018 18:29:27 -0400, Haines wrote in message <20180616222927.gk1...@engels.historicalmaterialism.info>: > I go to install usbmount on ascii 2.0.0 and I get "E: Unable to locate > package usbmount". ..you have 'dpkg -l |grep usbmount ' and 'apt-cache search usbmount' turn out noth

Re: [DNG] Refracta no-dbus experiment

2018-06-16 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 16 Jun 2018 12:32:53 -1000 Joel Roth wrote: > Svante Signell wrote: > > This is a really good initiative :) Let's get rid of that dbus > > bloat! > > I'm reading a little more about dbus, and find it was > developed by Havoc Pennington, one of the important kernel > contributors, IIRC.

Re: [DNG] Refracta no-dbus experiment

2018-06-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 16 Jun 2018 12:32:53 -1000, Joel wrote in message <20180616223253.5y7ppwimthm3qidz@sprite>: > Svante Signell wrote: > > This is a really good initiative :) Let's get rid of that dbus > > bloat! > > I'm reading a little more about dbus, and find it was > developed by Havoc Pennington, o

Re: [DNG] Refracta no-dbus experiment

2018-06-16 Thread Joel Roth
Svante Signell wrote: > This is a really good initiative :) Let's get rid of that dbus bloat! I'm reading a little more about dbus, and find it was developed by Havoc Pennington, one of the important kernel contributors, IIRC. I'm not sure *I* need it, but he makes a good case for it and explai

[DNG] what happened to usbmount?

2018-06-16 Thread Haines Brown
I go to install usbmount on ascii 2.0.0 and I get "E: Unable to locate package usbmount". Has an alternative been developed without the problems associated with usbmount? Haines Brown ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.or

Re: [DNG] Refracta no-dbus experiment

2018-06-16 Thread Svante Signell
On Fri, 2018-06-15 at 15:34 -0400, fsmithred wrote: > Refracta no-dbus build (experiment) > > The subject of running without dbus comes up from time to time in > various places. I decided to try it and see how far I could get. I > started with a debootstrap install of devuan ascii, pinned dbus to

Re: [DNG] Ascii LVM Encrypted Issue

2018-06-16 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 16 Jun 2018 08:19:43 +0200, Didier wrote in message : > Le 16/06/2018 à 05:15, Michael McConnell a écrit : > > I’ve know been through the Graphic and Text based installs and did > > not see any such prompt. I’ve even done what was suggested and did > > the install from a USB key and still

Re: [DNG] Devuan ascii installer netinstall iso UPDATE

2018-06-16 Thread Stefan Krusche
Hi Dan, Am Samstag 02 Juni 2018 schrieb Dan Purgert: On 05/31/2018 04:42 PM, Stefan Krusche wrote: > > My older version can't seem to process option "-o FingerprintHash=sha" as > > suggested in the posting on superuser.com to get the SHA256 key fingerprint > > which is shown on the screen of th

Re: [DNG] elogind and startx

2018-06-16 Thread Haines Brown
On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 11:27:31AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Install > > xserver-xorg-input-libinput > > and a graphics driver, unless you like to use the in-built modesettings > driver which is usually just about fine for Intel integrated graphics. > For AMD or NVidia you may like or

Re: [DNG] Ascii LVM Encrypted Issue

2018-06-16 Thread Stefan Krusche
Am Samstag 16 Juni 2018 schrieb Michael McConnell: > Thanks, > > I’ve know been through the Graphic and Text based installs and did not see > any such prompt. I’ve even done what was suggested and did the install from a > USB key and still the issue persists - installing Devuan ASCII and using L

Re: [DNG] elogind and startx

2018-06-16 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi Haines. Haines Brown - 15.06.18, 22:12: > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 07:41:52PM +0100, Dave Turner wrote: > > You must install the xserver files to get X working. > > > > More precisely, they MUST be installed. Whether elogind and > > libpam-elogind drag them in as dependencies I do not know. >