Re: [DNG] Runit for Devuan: was Debian testing drop redis

2017-10-27 Thread John Hughes
On 28/10/17 03:45, Steve Litt wrote: I'm the original poster of the thread renamed "Runit for Devuan", and I don't understand this email at all. What does a debian bug about s6 have to do with my offer to be one of a two person team to bring a runit package to Devuan? You said > s6's main

Re: [DNG] Debian testing drop redis

2017-10-27 Thread John Hughes
On 28/10/17 01:39, zap wrote: On 10/27/2017 04:51 AM, John Hughes wrote: On 27/10/17 07:21, Steve Litt wrote: No Debian fan, Chris Lamb or otherwise, Debian fan? He's one of the people who build the distribution Devuan is  based on.  He's not a "fan". That is very impressive indeed. I wou

Re: [DNG] Debian testing drop redis

2017-10-27 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting zap (calmst...@posteo.de): > I still have a mixture of irritation and amazement, that systemd is > considered libre software yet causes so many issues and > security/stability flaws. amazing yet terrifying... Nothing at all prevents libre software from being absolutely wretched. The term

Re: [DNG] ID Quantique "Quantum" PCI-e RNG's - does anyone have more info?

2017-10-27 Thread taii...@gmx.com
On 10/27/2017 10:35 AM, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: Olaf Meeuwissen writes: I have used the `haveged` package to keep my /dev/urandom "topped up" when randomizing disks. Greatly shortened the time needed to fill my disks. No idea about the quality of randomness, though. I looked at it now. It s

Re: [DNG] gpg 2.2.x devuan jessie no TOFU TLS

2017-10-27 Thread Werner Koch
On Thu, 26 Oct 2017 16:00, fulanope...@cryptolab.net said: > checking for LIBGNUTLS... no The minimal requirement is GNUTLS 3.0 - please check that you have the 3.x -dev package installed. You should also consult config.log to check why GNUTLS was not found. Salam-Shalom, Werner -- Die G

Re: [DNG] Debian testing drop redis

2017-10-27 Thread zap
On 10/27/2017 10:34 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 19:39:53 -0400 > zap wrote: > >> On 10/27/2017 04:51 AM, John Hughes wrote: >>> On 27/10/17 07:21, Steve Litt wrote: No Debian fan, Chris Lamb or otherwise, >>> Debian fan? He's one of the people who build the distribution

Re: [DNG] Debian testing drop redis

2017-10-27 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 19:39:53 -0400 zap wrote: > On 10/27/2017 04:51 AM, John Hughes wrote: > > On 27/10/17 07:21, Steve Litt wrote: > >> No Debian fan, Chris Lamb or otherwise, > > > > Debian fan? He's one of the people who build the distribution Devuan > > is  based on.  He's not a "fan". I

Re: [DNG] Runit for Devuan: was Debian testing drop redis

2017-10-27 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 27 Oct 2017 19:34:52 -0400 zap wrote: > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=733915 > > > > Only a RFP, not an ITP. > > > > Everyone wants somebody else to do the work. > Truthfully, some don't know how to do to the work... also. I'm the original poster of the thread ren

Re: [DNG] Debian testing drop redis

2017-10-27 Thread zap
On 10/27/2017 04:51 AM, John Hughes wrote: > On 27/10/17 07:21, Steve Litt wrote: >> No Debian fan, Chris Lamb or otherwise, > > Debian fan? He's one of the people who build the distribution Devuan > is  based on.  He's not a "fan". > That is very impressive indeed. I would have never guessed tha

Re: [DNG] Runit for Devuan: was Debian testing drop redis

2017-10-27 Thread zap
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=733915 > > Only a RFP, not an ITP. > > Everyone wants somebody else to do the work. Truthfully, some don't know how to do to the work... also. > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mai

Re: [DNG] Chris Lamb = Good Maintainer (Was: Debian testing drop redis)

2017-10-27 Thread Jaromil
thanks Patrick, your reports have been most precious to this thread IMHO On Thu, 26 Oct 2017, Patrick Meade wrote: > On 10/26/2017 09:36 AM, John Hughes wrote: > > Frankly it seems that some people have been rather fast to assume bad > > faith and very few people who commented either knew what

Re: [DNG] OT: Patching De*an based systems at scale

2017-10-27 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Oct 27, 2017 at 10:50:36AM -0500, dev wrote: > On 10/26/2017 04:53 PM, Adam Borowski wrote: > > You may additionally install apt-listchanges and configure it to show > > changelogs, that will fetch relevant (and only those!) changelog entries of > > packages you're about to install. > > Th

Re: [DNG] OT: Patching De*an based systems at scale

2017-10-27 Thread dev
On 10/26/2017 04:53 PM, Adam Borowski wrote: > You're not insane enough to run an unreleased version on a production > server, right? I would never do that! ;) Seriously though, I might do it in a test environment, so good to know. > You may additionally install apt-listchanges and configur

Re: [DNG] gpg 2.2.x devuan jessie no TOFU TLS

2017-10-27 Thread Fulano Diego Perez
Werner Koch: > On Thu, 26 Oct 2017 16:00, fulanope...@cryptolab.net said: > >> checking for LIBGNUTLS... no > > The minimal requirement is GNUTLS 3.0 - please check that you have the > 3.x -dev package installed. You should also consult config.log to check > why GNUTLS was not found. > > > S

Re: [DNG] ID Quantique "Quantum" PCI-e RNG's - does anyone have more info?

2017-10-27 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Olaf Meeuwissen writes: I have used the `haveged` package to keep my /dev/urandom "topped up" when randomizing disks. Greatly shortened the time needed to fill my disks. No idea about the quality of randomness, though. I looked at it now. It seems to observe some real entropy, but I think the

Re: [DNG] Converting srpms to debs

2017-10-27 Thread John Crisp
On 26/10/17 20:30, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote: >> >> I need to be able to hack some of the source files due to different >> file paths, and then build as debs. >> > According to the man page from alien > > > -g, --generate >    Generate a temporary directory suitable for build

[DNG] regressions in gnome applications after upgrade from jessie to ascii

2017-10-27 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Hi all! I upgraded my testsystem from jessie to ascii. Everything went smooth, TDE + devuan running fine. But I oberserved some regressions in GNOME applications, espeially "terminator": - The applications set the working directory to the "~". This is quite a bad surprise, as it breaks compati

Re: [DNG] UEFI and Secure Boot

2017-10-27 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Am Donnerstag, 26. Oktober 2017 schrieb John Morris: > On Tue, 2017-10-24 at 09:01 +0200, marc wrote: > > > Secureboot is designed for them, not for you. You might come > > up with a really exotic use case, where it might help you. But > > if you look at it carefully enough, it relies on secureboo

Re: [DNG] Runit for Devuan: was Debian testing drop redis

2017-10-27 Thread John Hughes
Oh, yes, the last thing in the runit changelog is: runit (2.1.2-9.2) unstable; urgency=medium * non-maintainer upload * re-add /sbin/runit{,-init} to runit package so it remains possible to use runit as PID 1 -- Daniel Kahn Gillmor Wed, 31 May 2017 12:44:38 -0400 So the runit-init

Re: [DNG] Runit for Devuan: was Debian testing drop redis

2017-10-27 Thread John Hughes
On 27/10/17 07:29, Steve Litt wrote: U mean runit's author/upstream maintainer, or do you mean Debian's maintainer for runit? Where does this information come from? Debian's runit maintainer, Dmitry Bogatov, was arrested, accused of "preparing to organize mass disorder" and making "public call

Re: [DNG] Debian testing drop redis

2017-10-27 Thread John Hughes
On 27/10/17 07:21, Steve Litt wrote: No Debian fan, Chris Lamb or otherwise, Debian fan? He's one of the people who build the distribution Devuan is  based on.  He's not a "fan". They're not stupid: They know how much they hurt Linux interchangeable parts with their rush to judgment on syst

Re: [DNG] Error after upgrade debian wheezy to devuan jessie...

2017-10-27 Thread Thomas Besser
Am 25.10.2017 um 13:19 schrieb Thomas Besser: > Am 25.10.2017 um 12:41 schrieb Olaf Meeuwissen: >> The trigger definition for libc-bin is in >> >> /var/lib/dpkg/info/libc-bin.triggers >> >> On my machine it says >> >> $ cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/libc-bin.triggers >> interest ldconfig The same h