Am Dienstag, 15. August 2017 schrieb Arnt Karlsen:
> On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 10:45:54 +0200, Svante wrote in message
> <1502786754.3090.22.ca...@gmail.com>:
>
> > On Thu, 2016-04-21 at 19:57 +0200, Rob van der Putten wrote:
> > > Hi there
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > > Which desktops work without systemd?
>
On 16/08/17 00:39, Joel Roth wrote:
Further, I don't have libsystemd0 installed on my system at
all, although there are some config files hanging around in /etc.
dpkg -l libsystemd0
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Tri
Thanks for the link. Might check it out when I can find some spare hardware
lying around.
> Sorry, i didn't attach the link:
>
> http://gnuinos.org/Gnuinos%20Ascii%20Beta/
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El 16/08/17 a les 03:49, Hendrik Boom ha escrit:
> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 12:42:50AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
>> On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 21:27:13 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message
>> <20170815012713.ga7...@topoi.pooq.com>:
>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 03:45:08PM +0200, Evilham wrote:
>>>
El 15/08/17 a les 21:33, Simon Hobson ha escrit:
> Narcis Garcia wrote:
>
>> As Far As I Know, CPU makes what software asks to do.
>> If software doesn't call some CPU functions, those functions will not work.
>
> Well, maybe, but these days you can't take that on trust. Your OS no longer
> run
On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 12:42:50AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 21:27:13 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message
> <20170815012713.ga7...@topoi.pooq.com>:
>
> > On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 03:45:08PM +0200, Evilham wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I'd recommend taking a look at this:
> > > https:
Further, I don't have libsystemd0 installed on my system at
all, although there are some config files hanging around in /etc.
dpkg -l libsystemd0
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required
Dave Turner wrote:
> I'm running a very minimal install of devuan ascii on my old Apple iMac.
>
> I have never been able to get sound working on the iMac using any
> linux distro unless pulseaudio was installed.
Hi Dave,
AFAIK pulseaudio uses ALSA and ALSA drivers to communicate
with the so
On 08/15/2017 11:07 PM, aitor wrote:
Hi Tom,
On 08/15/2017 07:18 PM, Tom Cassidy wrote:
There's no release for ascii yet. You'll just have to dist-upgrade from jessie
if you want to try it.
I've been running ascii + experimental/eudev on my work desktop and laptop for
a few months without
Hi Tom,
On 08/15/2017 07:18 PM, Tom Cassidy wrote:
There's no release for ascii yet. You'll just have to dist-upgrade from jessie
if you want to try it.
I've been running ascii + experimental/eudev on my work desktop and laptop for
a few months without trouble.
-- Tomas
I might just settl
On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 13:48:37 -0400, Haines wrote in message
<20170815174837.gf32...@engels.historicalmaterialism.info>:
> It would be naive to think that CPU producers don't build in a
> backdoor. This is why I take an interest in Chinese CPUs. At this
> point they are only RISC processors, but b
On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 21:27:13 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message
<20170815012713.ga7...@topoi.pooq.com>:
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 03:45:08PM +0200, Evilham wrote:
>
> >
> > I'd recommend taking a look at this:
> > https://www.slideshare.net/opennebula/opennebulaconf2015-112-the-status-of-devuan-pr
On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 16:29:50 +0200, Alessandro wrote in message
<33ad4565-eb5d-f434-cb8d-0bbd8a8a3...@linux.com>:
> On 15/08/2017 at 05:13, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
> > FYI Many big companies get intel to include classified instruction
> > sets to give them some kind of competitive edge.
> >
> > I
On Sun, 13 Aug 2017 07:45:11 -0400, zap wrote in message
<733bb945-c664-c361-2690-17402dbdb...@posteo.de>:
>
> > Was X working before you tried the nvidia driver?
> > Does /etc/xorg.conf exist now? If so, rename it so you can revert
> > to a working X.
> >
> > Maybe try 'apt-get -f install' (wit
On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 16:45:05 +1000, Erik wrote in message
<20170815064505.GA3443@ratatosk>:
> Finding Devuan, and subscribing last night, I'm keen to replace my
> Debian 9.0 "Systemdix"¹, even at the cost of reverting to older
> packages. But I don't much like Gnome either, and have become quite
On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 10:45:54 +0200, Svante wrote in message
<1502786754.3090.22.ca...@gmail.com>:
> On Thu, 2016-04-21 at 19:57 +0200, Rob van der Putten wrote:
> > Hi there
>
> Hi
>
> > Which desktops work without systemd?
> > A list would be nice.
>
> I'm running mate on an upgraded to ascii
I'm running a very minimal install of devuan ascii on my old Apple iMac.
Using xdm to login, twm as the window manager, and xfe for file
management. Then dillo and Firefox for web-browsing.
Aptitude shows that libsystemd0 is still there but pulseaudio etc depend
on it and I have never been ab
Narcis Garcia wrote:
> As Far As I Know, CPU makes what software asks to do.
> If software doesn't call some CPU functions, those functions will not work.
Well, maybe, but these days you can't take that on trust. Your OS no longer
runs native on the processor - there's EFI as a shim between you
Narcis Garcia wrote:
>El 15/08/17 a les 17:04, Hendrik Boom ha escrit:
>> What implications does this have for security? Allow me to shudder.
>As Far As I Know, CPU makes what software asks to do.
>If software doesn't call some CPU functions, those functions will not work.
The counter-argumen
El 15/08/17 a les 17:04, Hendrik Boom ha escrit:
> On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 04:29:50PM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>> On 15/08/2017 at 05:13, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
>>> FYI Many big companies get intel to include classified instruction
>>> sets to give them some kind of competitive edge.
>>>
>>>
It would be naive to think that CPU producers don't build in a
backdoor. This is why I take an interest in Chinese CPUs. At this point
they are only RISC processors, but before long they should produce a
product competitive with Intel. I suppose it will also have a back door,
door, but China seems
On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 16:45:05 +1000
Erik Christiansen wrote:
> Finding Devuan, and subscribing last night, I'm keen to replace my
> Debian 9.0 "Systemdix"¹, even at the cost of reverting to older
> packages. But I don't much like Gnome either, and have become quite
> used to LXDE - especially the
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 04:29:50PM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On 15/08/2017 at 05:13, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
> > FYI Many big companies get intel to include classified instruction
> > sets to give them some kind of competitive edge.
> >
> > I can't find the link but it was in a bloomberg arti
On 15/08/2017 at 05:13, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
> FYI Many big companies get intel to include classified instruction
> sets to give them some kind of competitive edge.
>
> I can't find the link but it was in a bloomberg article about xeon CPU's.
Maybe it's this piece:
https://www.bloomberg.com/
There's no release for ascii yet. You'll just have to dist-upgrade from jessie
if you want to try it.
I've been running ascii + experimental/eudev on my work desktop and laptop for
a few months without trouble.
-- Tomas
> I might just settle for the default XFCE for a while, after all: Life is
On 15.08.17 20:03, Tom Cassidy wrote:
> Have you thought about LXQt? Upstream LXDE stopped development a while
> back and merged with Razor-qt into the new project running on Qt
> instead of GTK.
Oh, dear world, please slow down. I can't keep up.
> Unfortunately it's only in repositories for asci
Have you thought about LXQt? Upstream LXDE stopped development a while back and
merged with Razor-qt into the new project running on Qt instead of GTK.
Unfortunately it's only in repositories for ascii and later, so not available
on jessie.
-- Tomas
> I've downloaded the CD iso, and will try i
On 15.08.17 08:54, KatolaZ wrote:
> Hi Erik,
>
> you are welcome to ask technical questions on this ML. There is no
> stated prefrerence for the forum anywhere. ...
Many thanks, KatolaZ, for the clarification. It seems that Devuan is a
welcoming community, not averse to new members, after all.
On Thu, 2016-04-21 at 19:57 +0200, Rob van der Putten wrote:
> Hi there
Hi
> Which desktops work without systemd?
> A list would be nice.
I'm running mate on an upgraded to ascii VM.
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OK, so it is NOT a Devuan policy to direct people to use
dev1galaxy.org to ask their questions, notwithstanding such questions,
are unrelated to development.
Please, consider this a closed case.
If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.
(Albert Einstein)
If you can
My office desktop runs KDE on Devuan, without any problems.
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Den 2017-08-15 kl. 08:45, skrev Erik Christiansen:
Finding Devuan, and subscribing last night, I'm keen to replace my
Debian 9.0 "Systemdix"¹, even at the cost of reverting to older
packages. But I don't much like Gnome either, and have become quite used
to LXDE - especially the boot speed of the
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 05:32:04PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote:
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>
> Ah, that is very disappointing. After more than 30 years of using *nix,
> I have not transitioned to the use of fora. The login necessity offends
> nearly as much as systemd, but I find that several years go by between
On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 09:13:21AM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote:
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>
> P.S.
> For questions like these users are encouraged to use the forum:
> dev1galaxy.org
>
Uh?
Since when are people encouraged to do so? This ML is a technical and
social one. People are free to ask technical questions
On 15.08.17 09:13, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> As far as I can tell the default is XFCE. However, Linux is not MS
> Windows meaning you can start off from a base system with just a
> terminal. Then, you can install whatever graphical interface you want.
> Keep in mind some desktop might be unavailable
As far as I can tell the default is XFCE. However, Linux is not MS
Windows meaning you can start off from a base system with just a
terminal. Then, you can install whatever graphical interface you want.
Keep in mind some desktop might be unavailable as disentagling them
from systemd/libsystemd et a
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