Re: [DNG] Please keep 32-bits alive

2017-07-25 Thread Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
On 26.07.2017 04:47, Christopher Clements wrote: My high-school programming class was advertised as teaching people how to program in C and do all sorts of low-level stuff. I signed up thinking I might finally meet a "computer expert" that actually knew what they were talking about... The teac

Re: [DNG] Please keep 32-bits alive

2017-07-25 Thread Christopher Clements
On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 12:49:17PM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: Am Dienstag, 25. Juli 2017 schrieb Didier Kryn: > https://around.com/ariane.html Even with a high level language carefully designed to discourage loose programming and dirty low-level tricks, it is still possible, although

Re: [DNG] Please keep 32-bits alive

2017-07-25 Thread Christopher Clements
On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 04:56:56AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 11:26:56PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 06:50:19AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > you might probably want to have a look at: > > http://popcon.devuan.org/ > > Whatever the statistical signifi

Re: [DNG] Please keep 32-bits alive

2017-07-25 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 25/07/2017 à 12:49, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp a écrit : Am Dienstag, 25. Juli 2017 schrieb Didier Kryn: https://around.com/ariane.html Even with a high level language carefully designed to discourage loose programming and dirty low-level tricks, it is still possible, although with strong effo

Re: [DNG] Please keep 32-bits alive

2017-07-25 Thread Dr. Nikolaus Klepp
Am Dienstag, 25. Juli 2017 schrieb Didier Kryn: > > https://around.com/ariane.html > > Even with a high level language carefully designed to discourage > loose programming and dirty low-level tricks, it is still possible, > although with strong efforts, to fuck the compiler and keep program

Re: [DNG] Please keep 32-bits alive

2017-07-25 Thread m712
Sometimes, though, you *need* to keep doing low-level things. It's not much of a necessity in the current state of technology anymore, but if you recall back in the 90s people used to hand-tune assembly code because the C code generated by the compiler was not efficient enough. The hardware was

Re: [DNG] Please keep 32-bits alive

2017-07-25 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 25/07/2017 à 00:34, Alessandro Selli a écrit : On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 at 21:52:23 +0200 Ruediger Meier wrote: On Monday 24 July 2017, Joachim Fahrner wrote: Am 2017-07-24 20:34, schrieb Hendrik Boom: How much source code actually cares whether pointers are 32 or 64 bits? Clean written code

Re: [DNG] Why am I being stonewalled (GRSecurity discussion)?

2017-07-25 Thread aconcernedfossdev
I was responding to this by Bradley M. Kuhn: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/07/msg00811.html Rather, the giant worldwide queue of known GPL violations should be prioritized by figuring out which ones, if solved, will do the most to maximize software freedom for all users. Explainin