On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 11:29:36PM +0100, Vincent Bentley wrote:
> Intel are not the only x86 cpu manufacturer.
>
> I use a lot of VIA Eden equipped devices (thin-clients) 32-bit, 1+ GHz,
> 1GB RAM usually. They run fine on 12v batteries charged by solar, have
> no problems being mounted in vehicl
On Sun, 23 Jul 2017 01:12:52 +0200
Dragan FOSS wrote:
> On 07/23/2017 12:57 AM, Adam Borowski wrote:
> > And, as this thread goes, you're not going to run a bloated DE on
> > such an underpowered machine, are you?
>
> Traditional Amish buggy is undoubtedly efficient and usable
> transportatio
Quoting Gregory Nowak (g...@gregn.net):
> Guess in that case we should point that out also to the people who
> still own and use historic cars from the last century for example.
The people who still own and use historic cars do so in the knowledge
that, over time, it tends to be an expensive hobb
Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com):
> lscpu
[...]
> Model name: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.40GHz
[...]
> dmidecode --string bios-release-date
> 12/21/2007
Thank you for that, Allesandro. Wikipedia's article on the Pentium 4
says this stepping was the _final_ Pentium 4
On 22/07/17 05:26 PM, Adam Borowski wrote:
On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 06:50:19AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
you might probably want to have a look at:
http://popcon.devuan.org/
Whatever the statistical significance of those data, it seems that
between 15% and 20% of Devuan installations are on i38
On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 03:51:54PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org):
> > All those users are being left without any other choice than throwing
> > their hw away by many distributions, without a concrete motivation
> > (well, except the usual "it's old so it must be t
On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 11:26:56PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> Then this looks like a problem that needs to be looked at. There's no way
> that many people use gear from ≤ 2004 (or a brief throwback of early Atoms
> from 2008).
For the record, I have two i386 boxes here from 2002, and they stil
On 23/07/2017 at 00:51, Rick Moen wrote:
[...]
> to the
> best of my recollection everyone moved to a x86_64 flavour around
> 2003-ish (or exited the market). So, I estimate that these computers
> are at least 14 years old.
lscpu
Architecture:i686
CPU op-mode(s): 32-bit
Byte Order:
On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 03:51:54PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org):
>
> > Strange as it may sound to you, yes, there are still many users who
> > are using i386 hw, and the only reasonable way for them to continue
> > use those hw is by having Linux.
>
> While I'm
On 07/23/2017 12:57 AM, Adam Borowski wrote:
And, as this thread goes, you're not going to run a bloated DE on such an
underpowered machine, are you?
Traditional Amish buggy is undoubtedly efficient and usable
transportation...for some people ;>
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons
On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 11:29:36PM +0100, Vincent Bentley wrote:
> Intel are not the only x86 cpu manufacturer.
>
> I use a lot of VIA Eden equipped devices (thin-clients) 32-bit, 1+ GHz,
> 1GB RAM usually. They run fine on 12v batteries charged by solar, have
> no problems being mounted in vehicl
Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org):
> Strange as it may sound to you, yes, there are still many users who
> are using i386 hw, and the only reasonable way for them to continue
> use those hw is by having Linux.
While I'm sure this is true for some number of people, aren't these now
incredibly
Intel are not the only x86 cpu manufacturer.
I use a lot of VIA Eden equipped devices (thin-clients) 32-bit, 1+ GHz,
1GB RAM usually. They run fine on 12v batteries charged by solar, have
no problems being mounted in vehicles (land or marine) and are fully
featured with IDE/SATA and network boot R
On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 11:26:56PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
[cut]
> > Whatever the statistical significance of those data, it seems that
> > between 15% and 20% of Devuan installations are on i386. So apparently
> > there is no reason at all to drop it, rather the opposite.
>
> Then this look
Quoting Arnt Gulbrandsen (a...@gulbrandsen.priv.no):
> Juergen Moebius writes:
> >No, not only Devuan. You forgot the great "Slackware",
> >the mother of Linux distributions.
>
> If we're going to go into ancient history — Slackware was
> (simplifying) a fork of SLS, but SLS wasn't the first eith
On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 05:39:44PM -0400, Renaud OLGIATI wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 23:26:56 +0200
> Adam Borowski wrote:
>
> > Then this looks like a problem that needs to be looked at. There's no way
> > that many people use gear from ≤ 2004 (or a brief throwback of early Atoms
> > from 2008
On Sat, 22 Jul 2017 23:26:56 +0200
Adam Borowski wrote:
> Then this looks like a problem that needs to be looked at. There's no way
> that many people use gear from ≤ 2004 (or a brief throwback of early Atoms
> from 2008).
Dont we have stats on how many download the 386 version, against how man
On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 06:50:19AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> you might probably want to have a look at:
>
> http://popcon.devuan.org/
>
> Whatever the statistical significance of those data, it seems that
> between 15% and 20% of Devuan installations are on i386. So apparently
> there is no reas
Juergen Moebius writes:
No, not only Devuan. You forgot the great "Slackware",
the mother of Linux distributions.
If we're going to go into ancient history — Slackware was (simplifying) a
fork of SLS, but SLS wasn't the first either. Either ABC or H. J. Lu's
nameless microdistribution might b
On Fri, 21 Jul 2017 22:21:53 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message
<20170722022153.gb8...@topoi.pooq.com>:
> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 11:45:23AM -0400, Boruch Baum wrote:
>
> > The bad news is that if this is the only step I take, "apt-get" will
> > want to upgrade 1248 packages (it looks more impressi
On Fri, 21 Jul 2017 22:17:09 -0400, Hendrik wrote in message
<20170722021709.ga8...@topoi.pooq.com>:
> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 08:14:43PM -0500, John Morris wrote:
> > On Fri, 2017-07-21 at 16:25 -0500, Don Wright wrote:
> > > Dragan FOSS wrote:
> > > >I think it's best to drop 32-bit support at
On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 09:26:55AM +0200, Joachim Fahrner wrote:
> Am 2017-07-22 09:09, schrieb Joachim Fahrner:
> > On new devuan Jessie installs there is a nice looking lightdm greeter
> > (Devuan theme). How can I install this greeter on old installations?
>
> I found it myown. It is not lightd
Am 2017-07-22 09:09, schrieb Joachim Fahrner:
On new devuan Jessie installs there is a nice looking lightdm greeter
(Devuan theme). How can I install this greeter on old installations?
I found it myown. It is not lightdm, it is slim with theme
devuan-curve-purpy.
Jochen
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On new devuan Jessie installs there is a nice looking lightdm greeter
(Devuan theme). How can I install this greeter on old installations?
Jochen
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