Re: [DNG] Why did it take Devuan 2 years to replace systemd?

2017-07-09 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Sat, Jul 08, 2017 at 09:35:06PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > Rather than argue the exact amount of time, I took his question at face > value and answered why it's so dam hard to alt-init a systemd-infested > system. You can see my answer here: > > http://troubleshooters.com/linux/systemd/bikebrak

Re: [DNG] Why did it take Devuan 2 years to replace systemd?

2017-07-09 Thread Bruce Perens
Geez. I had a Debian system go belly-up last night because /var got messed up. No journal, so you can't boot out of emergency mode. Can't mount a damned USB stick in emergency mode because udev isn't running. Got to boot a rescue disk to get anything done. We really have gone wrong...

Re: [DNG] Why did it take Devuan 2 years to replace systemd?

2017-07-09 Thread Joachim Fahrner
Am 2017-07-09 17:10, schrieb Edward Bartolo: I have been running Devuan since August of two years ago, and I do not regret it. Being forced to do Linux the way seen from above, would have definitely killed my motivation to use a different OS completely. Devuan is giving me freedom; Devuan is not

Re: [DNG] Why did it take Devuan 2 years to replace systemd?

2017-07-09 Thread golinux
On 2017-07-09 03:37, KatolaZ wrote: On Sat, Jul 08, 2017 at 09:35:06PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: Hi all, I recently got an email that asked me the question (among others) "Why did it take Devuan 2 years to replace systemd?" Rather than argue the exact amount of time, I took his question at fac

Re: [DNG] Why did it take Devuan 2 years to replace systemd?

2017-07-09 Thread Edward Bartolo
Like the majority of users of Devuan, at first, when Debian was forked and Devuan established, it was considered by the rest as a joke that cannot be taken seriously. The argument was Debian was too big a distribution to fork and systemd was 'the way to go'. Determination and perseverance have pro

Re: [DNG] Why did it take Devuan 2 years to replace systemd?

2017-07-09 Thread golinux
On 2017-07-09 09:22, Evilham wrote: Hello Douglas, Am 09/07/2017 um 14:42 schrieb Douglas Guptill: On Sat, Jul 08, 2017 at 11:13:16PM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: Here are some ideas: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=589 Eventually something will light your fire. :) OK, thanks f

Re: [DNG] Why did it take Devuan 2 years to replace systemd?

2017-07-09 Thread Evilham
Hello Douglas, Am 09/07/2017 um 14:42 schrieb Douglas Guptill: > On Sat, Jul 08, 2017 at 11:13:16PM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > >> Here are some ideas: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=589 Eventually >> something will light your fire. :) > > OK, thanks for that. > >> Remember that

Re: [DNG] wpa_supplicant - wlan0: No suitable network found

2017-07-09 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 09/07/2017 à 12:18, Ralph Ronnquist a écrit : KatolaZ wrote on 09/07/17 19:18: On Sun, Jul 09, 2017 at 12:09:01PM +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: I'm having an intermittent wireless problem on Ascii. On occasion I lose connection to an existing 802.11 5GHz wireless network or cannot reconnect af

Re: [DNG] Why did it take Devuan 2 years to replace systemd?

2017-07-09 Thread Douglas Guptill
On Sat, Jul 08, 2017 at 11:13:16PM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > Here are some ideas: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=589 Eventually > something will light your fire. :) OK, thanks for that. > Remember that a lot happens on irc too. I have installed irssi, and fired it up. But hav

Re: [DNG] wpa_supplicant - wlan0: No suitable network found

2017-07-09 Thread Ralph Ronnquist
KatolaZ wrote on 09/07/17 19:18: On Sun, Jul 09, 2017 at 12:09:01PM +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: I'm having an intermittent wireless problem on Ascii. On occasion I lose connection to an existing 802.11 5GHz wireless network or cannot reconnect after resuming suspend. It happens only occasionall

Re: [DNG] wpa_supplicant - wlan0: No suitable network found

2017-07-09 Thread KatolaZ
On Sun, Jul 09, 2017 at 12:09:01PM +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: > I'm having an intermittent wireless problem on Ascii. On occasion I > lose connection to an existing 802.11 5GHz wireless network or cannot > reconnect after resuming suspend. It happens only occasionally and I > can't yet get it to c

[DNG] wpa_supplicant - wlan0: No suitable network found

2017-07-09 Thread Lars Noodén
I'm having an intermittent wireless problem on Ascii. On occasion I lose connection to an existing 802.11 5GHz wireless network or cannot reconnect after resuming suspend. It happens only occasionally and I can't yet get it to consistently fail or fail on demand. When this happens, the ongoing o

Re: [DNG] Why did it take Devuan 2 years to replace systemd?

2017-07-09 Thread KatolaZ
On Sat, Jul 08, 2017 at 09:35:06PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > I recently got an email that asked me the question (among others) "Why > did it take Devuan 2 years to replace systemd?" > > Rather than argue the exact amount of time, I took his question at face > value and answered why i

Re: [DNG] Why did it take Devuan 2 years to replace systemd?

2017-07-09 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi Steve. Steve Litt - 08.07.17, 21:35: > I recently got an email that asked me the question (among others) "Why > did it take Devuan 2 years to replace systemd?" > > Rather than argue the exact amount of time, I took his question at face > value and answered why it's so dam hard to alt-init a sy