On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 00:03:45 -0400, Steve wrote in message
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> On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 12:10:04 +0200
> Didier Kryn wrote:
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> > > On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 11:55:40PM -0700, Bruce Perens wrote:
> > >
> > > [cut]
> > >
> > >> I support getting GNOME to be
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 19:36:11 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message
<20170424183611.gv14...@katolaz.homeunix.net>:
> Hi Greg,
>
> thanks for your patience. Your issue was already in bugs.devuan.org
> (since the 24th March):
>
> https://bugs.devuan.org/db/31/31.html
>
> and has been closed on April
On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 21:18:48 +0100, KatolaZ wrote in message
<20170424201848.gw14...@katolaz.homeunix.net>:
> On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 09:14:23PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
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> [cut]
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> >
> > ..in both cases we end users get tricked into bad things, the only
> > real difference is, systemd en
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 00:39:45 +, Bruce wrote in message
:
> I don't see any problem with a generic interface to the things that
> libsystemd does , if one could be arrived at, or if the current API is
> sufficiently generic.
..similar things was said a year back of Donald Trump's run for
pres
On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 12:10:04 +0200
Didier Kryn wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 11:55:40PM -0700, Bruce Perens wrote:
> >
> > [cut]
> >
> >> I support getting GNOME to be available out-of-the-box Devuan. The
> >> counter-arguments were not compelling.
> >>
> I'm allways surprised when
Jaromil writes:
> dear Joel,
>
> tl;dr : known bug since long. CenturionDan is working on it with a
> final strategy to solve it. Please use bugs.devuan.org next time!
>
>
> On Sun, 30 Apr 2017, Joel Roth wrote:
>
>> E: The cache is empty. You need to run 'apt-file update' first.
>> You
Because if jessie is stable still has in the release the Valid-Until line?
This creates problems for me in PCs that do not have access to the Internet.
In debian, they eliminate this line when they declare the distribution
stable.
How can I remove this line from the release without the reposi
> Like it or not (and I pretty much dislike it), the way systemd went
> down incorporating almost everything is a "natural" way to try to
> tackle complexity, i.e., by centralising things in the hands of a
> minimal number of actors and creating a whole lot of
> interdependencies.
Hi KatolaZ,
Thi
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 02:37:42PM +0200, Joachim Fahrner wrote:
> Am 2017-06-19 13:26, schrieb Haines Brown:
> >I found no gsettings in Devuan, but there is one in Debian:
> >/usr/share/bash-completion/completions/gsettings. It is a simple
> >non-executable script.
> I suspect a missing dependen
On 6/19/17, Tom Cassidy wrote:
> I'll try installing lightdm to see how that goes on Devuan compared to
> Ubuntu.
Devuan has lightdm from Debian, without any changes, but if you want
to use light-locker with it, then enable jessie-proposed repo.
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On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 22:38:54 +1000
Tom Cassidy wrote:
> FWIW, I've joined a Devuan machine to a Windows AD domain with
> samba/winbind and have no problems logging in with a domain user from
> slim when properly setup. I'll admit it's not as nice as lightdm in
> that it doesn't show a list of pre
FWIW, I've joined a Devuan machine to a Windows AD domain with samba/winbind
and have no problems logging in with a domain user from slim when properly
setup. I'll admit it's not as nice as lightdm in that it doesn't show a list of
previous login names, but it is basically functional as a GUI lo
On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 05:16:34AM -0700, Bruce Perens wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 3:19 AM, Joachim Fahrner wrote:
> >
> > systemd is not not only an init system, it is expanding to a whole eco
> > system around the linux kernel, creating apis for everything you can think
> > of.
>
>
> Syst
On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 12:08:47PM +0200, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:
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> >
> >In prior discussions in this space concerning libsystemd0, there was a
> >futile confrontation between people who (correctly) pointed out that it
> >does nothing if systemd isn't present, and others who
Hi Didier,
Am 2017-06-19 12:10, schrieb Didier Kryn:
I'm allways surprised when people seem to find Gnome is
compelling. I never found it compelling. A dozen years ago I moved to
KDE, because Gnome was so ugly. Later I turned back to Gnome when KDE
went crazy; then Gnome-3 went mental also
On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 08:34:49PM +1000, Tom wrote:
> Both slim and rsyslog are uninstallable on ascii. Thankfully I have
> rsyslog still installed from jessie, but I accidentally uninstalled slim
> and now can't re-install it. Wha'ts involved in updating package
> dependencies to get these (and
On Mon, 19 Jun 2017 20:34:49 +1000
Tom wrote:
> Both slim and rsyslog are uninstallable on ascii. Thankfully I have
> rsyslog still installed from jessie, but I accidentally uninstalled
> slim and now can't re-install it. Wha'ts involved in updating package
> dependencies to get these (and othe
Both slim and rsyslog are uninstallable on ascii. Thankfully I have
rsyslog still installed from jessie, but I accidentally uninstalled slim
and now can't re-install it. Wha'ts involved in updating package
dependencies to get these (and other packages) installable on ascii? Does
it require exten
On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 11:55:40PM -0700, Bruce Perens wrote:
[cut]
I support getting GNOME to be available out-of-the-box Devuan. The
counter-arguments were not compelling.
I'm allways surprised when people seem to find Gnome is compelling.
I never found it compelling. A dozen years ago
On Sat, Jun 17, 2017 at 11:55:40PM -0700, Bruce Perens wrote:
[cut]
>
> I support getting GNOME to be available out-of-the-box Devuan. The
> counter-arguments were not compelling.
>
I am not an expert in Desktop Environments, but my uninformed guess is
that getting GNOME available out-of-the-b
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