Re: [DNG] vdev - udev is a dead end

2016-08-17 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Simon Hobson (li...@thehobsons.co.uk): > Sorry, I wasn't clear. > > As you allude to later, if ExampleCo have got contributors to assign > copyright to them, then they (ExampleCo) are free to change the > licensing terms as they wish - delete all historical "free" stuff* and > make it a c

Re: [DNG] lilo development has ended

2016-08-17 Thread Simon Hobson
And also see http://lilo.alioth.debian.org/olddoc/html/tech_21-5.html ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] lilo development has ended

2016-08-17 Thread Simon Hobson
Hendrik Boom wrote: >> I don't understand this. My understanding of lilo is that is just finds >> the blocks where the kernel is, and usually the kernel file is not placed >> in any superblock or signature; shouldn't the file system driver ensure >> that ? > > It has to find the partition with

Re: [DNG] GRUB shell

2016-08-17 Thread fsmithred
On 08/17/2016 07:09 AM, aitor_czr wrote: > > Hi Peter, > > On 08/17/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Olson wrote: >> What does "e" plus tab key twice do? >> > > >> > >Is there some way I could try this on a system which boots >> successfully to find out about this? >> > > >> > >Peter Olson > > Refracta use

Re: [DNG] lilo development has ended

2016-08-17 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 02:09:02PM +0200, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Henrik Boom: > > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:05:12PM +0200, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > ... > > > Next scenario is if you have the bootloader on a different media, say > > > e.g. a floppy. Then, will lilo load the kernel from disk 2 w

Re: [DNG] lilo development has ended

2016-08-17 Thread karl
Henrik Boom: > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:05:12PM +0200, k...@aspodata.se wrote: ... > > Next scenario is if you have the bootloader on a different media, say > > e.g. a floppy. Then, will lilo load the kernel from disk 2 when disk 1 > > fails (assuming mirrored /boot) ? Do grub handle that ? > >

Re: [DNG] systemd greybeards

2016-08-17 Thread Simon Hobson
Brian Nash wrote: > It's the same with operating systems: > > Windows agressively claws it's way to the top, doing all it can to > destroy competition, while Linux minds it's own, content to let it's own > merits speak for it. There's more to it than that. Windows, like Linux/SystemD is trying

Re: [DNG] GRUB shell (was: vdev)

2016-08-17 Thread aitor_czr
Hi Peter, On 08/17/2016 12:32 PM, Peter Olson wrote: What does "e" plus tab key twice do? > > > >Is there some way I could try this on a system which boots successfully to find out about this? > > > >Peter Olson Refracta uses grub in live mode, as he said in the IRC Channel. But ask him...

Re: [DNG] vdev - udev is a dead end

2016-08-17 Thread Simon Hobson
Rick Moen wrote: > And this is because too many people are just relying on it continuing to > be there. They really ought to stop thinking that way. I'll admit that I haven't given too much thought to who owns what when it comes to the likes of SF - but I do frequently wonder if some of the pe

Re: [DNG] lilo development has ended

2016-08-17 Thread Simon Hobson
k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Next scenario is if you have the bootloader on a different media, say > e.g. a floppy. Then, will lilo load the kernel from disk 2 when disk 1 > fails (assuming mirrored /boot) ? Do grub handle that ? With Grub you can specify the disk/partition by system device name (eg