Hi,
System initialisation is NO religiously enshrined mystery that is
highly claimed to be beyond human comprehension. I can understand the
position help by anyone that an init is so central to an OS that it
must be coded scrupulously. And, given time, I think, I will
eventually come back with som
On 06/18/2016 10:31 AM, Greg Olsen wrote:
...
In the meantime, I added Simon Walter as a Developer for lxc-devuan.
Simon,
As a developer you can push directly to the main development branch. I
added a "draft" Contribution guide, and I'll be following the same
process myself as outlined.
Hi
Am Sat, 18 Jun 2016 17:32:49 +
schrieb "Ismael L. Donis Garcia" :
Hi Ismael!
> I have not looked openerp version in debian, but should be well
> behind using Manjaro, that could also influence since Manjaro version
> should be much more current.
i don't think so; i ran a very old manjaro ope
I don't use debian menu anywhere I don't like what it does to the menus.
I built my jwm menu by hand and modelled it on the xfce menu structure.
I think it's quite reasonable to make package requests as I don't think
devuan currently have backports.
On Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 11:08 AM, wrote:
> A
As for package requests i have a question:
Is it acceptable to make proposals or would feel innecesserily stressed?
(I'd like to have several small tools, which are available on git but
not in the repositories, having in mind to put together the stuff for a
jwm desktop as an option in tasksel. On
Am Sun, 19 Jun 2016 09:17:26 +1000
schrieb Ozi Traveller :
Hi Ozi!
> Hi emninger
>
> I have ceni_2015.07.06+nmu1_all.deb installed in devuan stable.
>
> Ozi
That's great, thankyou very much. May be you can put it also to ascii?
As for this, just a question: On one machine i have running devua
Hi emninger
I have ceni_2015.07.06+nmu1_all.deb installed in devuan stable.
Ozi
On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 7:48 PM, wrote:
> I would like to have ceni in the devuan packages. Ceni can be found
> here (the amd_64 version):
> http://packages.siduction.org/?Repositories:extra_amd64
>
> In the practi
On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 03:27:23AM +0200, emnin...@riseup.net wrote:
> Sometime ago i asked here about zram - and got good advice. On one
> laptop i have it running and all is fine. But on this unfortunate Sony
> i have problems:
>
> When i tried to install zram as on the other machine i discovere
Lars Noodén writes:
> On 06/17/2016 09:36 PM, KatolaZ wrote:
> [snip]
>> Unfortunately, system initialisation is really a bit more complicated
>> than that, whether you like it or not.
> [snip]
>
> Is there a concise summary somewhere of what system initialization
> entails? Or is it dependent on
On Sat, 18 Jun 2016 09:57:42 -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm running devuan jessie. I wanted to try 'apt-get build-dep vlc'.
> For that I need to put the source URIs in /etc/apt/sources.list.
>
> These are not listed on devuan.org. Are they available?
Yes. Simply duplicate the lines you h
Hi,
I'm running devuan jessie. I wanted to try 'apt-get build-dep vlc'.
For that I need to put the source URIs in /etc/apt/sources.list.
These are not listed on devuan.org. Are they available?
My immediate interest is to compile vlc without --enable-dbus.
Devuan is a flavor of debian without s
Hi,
Looking at what /etc/init.d/rc does it should become clear that
/sbin/init does not itself load the OS. This is why I delegated the
loading task to a script and since rc does exactly that function I
used its functionality. This means, there is no need for PID 1 to have
rc's functionality built
On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 02:50:04PM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On DNG I was suggested a book or two about unix. The aim was to read
> about how processes are handled by the OS and what is important to
> understand to properly write code for unix. However, when I checked
> the prices I w
Le 18/06/2016 13:12, emnin...@riseup.net a écrit :
Am Sat, 18 Jun 2016 08:49:39 +
schrieb Didier Kryn :
Salut Didier!
Hallo Emninger :-)
I'm using xfce4 DE on Devuan Jessie and have removed all
policy-kit* packages and package-kit. The halt and reboot buttons of
the logout menu
I have not looked *openrc* version in debian, but should be well behind
using
Manjaro, that could also influence since Manjaro version should be much more
*new*.
Best Regards
| ISMAEL |
- Original Message -
From: "Ismael L. Donis Garcia"
To: "Lista de Devuan"
Sent:
Edward:
...
> The question is, can I read some *reliable* free ebook to enhance my
> knowledge of both Unix OSs and C?
Doing a quick search I find:
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/C_Programming
http://www.computer-books.us/c.php
http://www.cs.cf.ac.uk/Dave/C/CE.html
http://publications.gbdirect.co.
Hi,
On DNG I was suggested a book or two about unix. The aim was to read
about how processes are handled by the OS and what is important to
understand to properly write code for unix. However, when I checked
the prices I was let down: they are too expensive for me considering I
am coding on a volu
Am Sat, 18 Jun 2016 08:49:39 +
schrieb Didier Kryn :
Salut Didier!
> I'm using xfce4 DE on Devuan Jessie and have removed all
> policy-kit* packages and package-kit. The halt and reboot buttons of
> the logout menu of Xfce do not work anymore. They certainly invoke
> some command to ask
Le 18/06/2016 10:41, Arnt Gulbrandsen a écrit :
Didier Kryn writes:
Did you try it? The documentation of Bash is not clear. I think
it says that a bash script can only wait the processes it has
launched. Does it mean it maintains a list of them, or is it just the
consequence of the fact th
I would like to have ceni in the devuan packages. Ceni can be found
here (the amd_64 version):
http://packages.siduction.org/?Repositories:extra_amd64
In the practical use, i think it's a robust and very easy to use
ncurses based tool. It's advantage is, once it is set up (practically
it uses wpas
Arnt:
...
> Processes cannot adopt children; the kernel foists processes on pid 1
> without asking either pid 1 or any other process.
??? I see no problems doing a wait() in a program to catch a childs
termination. There even is an example in wait()'s manpage.
> Bash's source code is very, very
I installed OpenRC in one Devuan machine - and it works just nicely.
But nevertheless i note some particularities.
- Just as an appearance: While in Manjaro/Arch Linux, running openrc
and not systemd, there is a nice clear order, when it comes to start
the processes/daemons/services managed
Edward Bartolo:
> So to replace my car's battery, I have to first have an understanding
> like that of a car engineer.
...
No, good engineering practice is to to modularize, to make parts
replacable, to make them more independent.
> What I am being repeatedly battered to
> accept, is the irratio
Am Sat, 18 Jun 2016 03:53:23 +
schrieb :
> The result is the same with the 3.16 kernel (which is my old kernel)
> and with the 4.6 kernel. How that? Und what can i do to enable that
> module?
Answering to myself: Seems that the kernel modules are disabled. I
installed a liquorix kernel (which
Didier Kryn writes:
Did you try it? The documentation of Bash is not clear. I
think it says that a bash script can only wait the processes it
has launched. Does it mean it maintains a list of them, or is it
just the consequence of the fact that any process but pid1
cannot adopt others' chi
Le 17/06/2016 21:44, Adam Borowski a écrit :
Why would you even need a separate process to spawn the shell? /bin/bash is
a perfectly capable init that can reap zombies, start processes, do any
interactive tasks, or be automated (.bashrc, trap EXIT, etc).
Did you try it? The documentation of
Didier Kryn writes:
BTW, I'm not sure what sysvinit does with gettys. Does it
launch them once for all or does it supervise them?
It acts as directed by /etc/inittab, which generally says to respawn.
Arnt
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Le 17/06/2016 20:06, Steve Litt a écrit :
So my personal, and obviously your mileages do vary, priority is the
simplicity of a do-one-thing PID1, because the "PID1 alone in the
forest" happens so rarely, and at least in my situation the results
aren't earth shaking.
My argument was a tentativ
You don't have to understand the universe. But you do have to
understand that to the professional programmers on the list, it is more
than possible to feel no awe at the sight of sysvinit. It is quite
reasonable. After all, it is a small, easily understood program. Modern
programs are a hundred
Le 17/06/2016 17:15, Irrwahn a écrit :
On Fri, 17 Jun 2016 16:21:35 +0200, Emninger wrote:
Thanks to my installation hassle i had an a bit close look to some
installed modules. So i saw, that with the basic install + X (i did not
install any specific desktop, but only with the --no-install-recom
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