On Wed, 15 Jun 2016 02:25:45 +0200
wrote:
> But now there is another problem: Seems there are lost all the shadow
> passwords, both, for root and user. Is there a way to re-establish
> them?
Hallo Emninger,
if you have the installer-disk handy, boot to rescue mode (chroot) and
just use 'passwd'
In python you can definitely fork/wait as I have done it, and I have also
made an init entirely in Python 3 :P.
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On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 06:21:36AM +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Before I give up writing Felker's C code in bash, can I use another
> interpreted language that has more probability of having wait(int*)
> and fork()?
Perl will do it. There excellent introductory books
available for free
Hi,
Before I give up writing Felker's C code in bash, can I use another
interpreted language that has more probability of having wait(int*)
and fork()?
Edward
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On 06/15/2016 10:26 AM, Greg Olsen wrote:
On 2016-06-14 09:22, Simon Walter wrote:
> I think that maybe you read my email too fast. So I will try to be
verbose.
Hi Simon,
If I misread then I apologize.
No need to!
...
>
> Also I notice gcc-4.8-base is being removed towards the end. I a
On 2016-06-14 09:22, Simon Walter wrote:
> I think that maybe you read my email too fast. So I will try to be
verbose.
Hi Simon,
If I misread then I apologize.
> I install Devuan on my hardware from an iso CD-ROM image file copied to
> a USB memory device.
>
> Next I install LXC.
>
> Next I
Am Tue, 14 Jun 2016 14:22:41 +
schrieb Florian Zieboll :
> From tty 2 or 3, you can wget that missing library, then move the deb
> to /target and chroot there to install it manually.
>
> libre Grüße,
>
> Florian
Hi Florian! I tried it that way but it did not work. I was prompted by
the msg
Am Tue, 14 Jun 2016 18:08:50 +
schrieb Paweł Cholewiński :
> Hi,
> could You reproduce this error with another install? If yes, are there
> any other errors before package dependency problem with libjson-c2 on
> console4?
>
> Regards,
> Paweł
I can reproduce this error with any install from
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 14:50:55 +0200
wrote:
> Hi all.
>
> I have an urgent problem with the Devuan Jessie 1.0 installer:
>
> When it comes to install the basic system at a certain point the
> installation stops with an error. On console 4 i see the following
> error msg:
>
> .
> dpkg: error pro
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 22:21:00 +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Irrwahn wrote:
> << apparently simply content with
> writing bad code >>
>
> Bad code is not good for anyone let alone as an init. What I am doing
> it experimenting so that I further understand which lines of the code
> play the central
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 22:12:21 +0200
Florian Zieboll wrote:
[--8<-- snip sources.list --8<--]
> You might want to choose another mirror, or the redirector:
> auto.mirror.devuan.org
Yep, I think that might be better
> Depending on your configuration and personal preferences, some ideas
> for your
Hi,
Irrwahn wrote:
<< apparently simply content with
writing bad code >>
Bad code is not good for anyone let alone as an init. What I am doing
it experimenting so that I further understand which lines of the code
play the central roles and which lines play auxiliary roles. In my
almost fifty year
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 21:27:00 +0200
richard lucassen wrote:
> 1) IIRC there used to be a "sources.list" somewhere to migrate from
> Debian Jessie to Devuan Jessie. Does someone have a URL?
I had thought that it's part of the devuan-baseconf package, but
apparently it's not. So here my sources.lis
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 16:00:10 -0400
etech3 wrote:
Ok, thnx!
> Here's what I have so far:
>
> most from the 64 bit install. added non-free and contrib so far so
> good
>
> # deb http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie main
>
> deb http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie main non-free cont
Here's what I have so far:
most from the 64 bit install. added non-free and contrib so far so good
# deb http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie main
deb http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie main non-free contrib
deb-src http://us.mirror.devuan.org/merged/ jessie main non-free contrib
[Afer the fact I notice this has become a rather wordy
message, mainly due to my difficulties to express myself
clearly in plain English; please ignore at at will.]
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 14:14:15 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> You and I have a difference of beliefs concerning learning. You believe
>
1) IIRC there used to be a "sources.list" somewhere to migrate from
Debian Jessie to Devuan Jessie. Does someone have a URL?
2) I run a PXE server. For Debian I can download an "initrd.gz" and a
"vmlinuz" to start a net install. Each version has its own
vmlinuz/initrd.gz. The repository I use is a
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 17:35:52 +0200
Irrwahn wrote:
> At the moment, at least to me, it unfortunately looks like he
> refuses to learn _anything_ of what he's being told, up to the
> point I am beginning to have doubts he's not simply trolling.
I can assure you he's not trolling, because I do
Hi,
KatolaZ wrote:
<<
but when somebody writes to a ML asking for suggestions on a
topic I usually assume that s/he really wants to receive some
information on that topic
>>
Thanks to this mailing thread, I now understand what fork() actually
does. To me fork() looks much more than simply a funct
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 10:59:05AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> I think Edward's being sucked into a vortex of basics at lightning
> speed, and within a couple weeks will know as much about the basics
> necessary for Felker PID1 as you do (which would be twice what I know,
> I found your explanatio
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 10:59:05AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 15:50:37 +0200
> Irrwahn wrote:
>
> > We could play this game day in, day out for months or even
> > years, without having you grasp the basics necessary to
> > fully understand the implications of even moderately
W dniu 14.06.2016 o 14:50, emnin...@riseup.net pisze:
> Hi all.
>
> I have an urgent problem with the Devuan Jessie 1.0 installer:
>
> When it comes to install the basic system at a certain point the
> installation stops with an error. On console 4 i see the following
> error msg:
>
> .
> dp
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 11:37:46 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 04:59:55PM +0200, Irrwahn wrote:
>
>> BOOOM! I just halted your init by simply using #kill -TSTP 1.
>
> I'm trying to figure out what -TSTP means.
SIGTSTP is the stop signal sent from a terminal, usually by
press
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 10:59:05 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 15:50:37 +0200
> Irrwahn wrote:
>
>> We could play this game day in, day out for months or even
>> years, without having you grasp the basics necessary to
>> fully understand the implications of even moderately
>> soph
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 04:59:55PM +0200, Irrwahn wrote:
> BOOOM! I just halted your init by simply using #kill -TSTP 1.
I'm trying to figure out what -TSTP means.
The option(s) isn't listed in the man page.
The man page doesn't match the command. IN particular, the man page
tells me
kil
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 15:51:23 +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to implement a small shell script to serve as an init but
> I am failing to find C equivalent functions to wait(int) and
> fork(void). These two functions are essential to create an init as
> zombies have to be somehow
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 15:50:37 +0200
Irrwahn wrote:
> We could play this game day in, day out for months or even
> years, without having you grasp the basics necessary to
> fully understand the implications of even moderately
> sophisticated C programs.
This discussion is getting theoretical,
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 15:51:23 +0200
Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to implement a small shell script to serve as an init but
> I am failing to find C equivalent functions to wait(int) and
> fork(void). These two functions are essential to create an init as
> zombies have to be someho
Edward, please comment the daylights out of it. Your shellscript might
be used for education, proof of concept, and propaganda for years to
come. If your shellscript had existed in the fall of 2014, I would have
tried it before I tried Felker.
SteveT
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 13:16:03 +0200
Edward Bart
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 14:50:55 +0200
wrote:
> Hi all.
>
> I have an urgent problem with the Devuan Jessie 1.0 installer:
>
> When it comes to install the basic system at a certain point the
> installation stops with an error. On console 4 i see the following
> error msg:
>
> .
> dpkg: error
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 13:08:59 +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote:
[...]
> Now I would like to ask what is the need of the fork() call in
> Felker's code. Yes, I know, it creates a child that continues
> execution just after the fork call.
[...]
> I checked with XFCE4 loaded how many instances of felker2.b
Hi,
I am trying to implement a small shell script to serve as an init but
I am failing to find C equivalent functions to wait(int) and
fork(void). These two functions are essential to create an init as
zombies have to be somehow reaped. In a shell script I can append & to
a statement to make it ru
Hi all.
I have an urgent problem with the Devuan Jessie 1.0 installer:
When it comes to install the basic system at a certain point the
installation stops with an error. On console 4 i see the following
error msg:
.
dpkg: error processing package rsyslog (--configure):
dependency problems -
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016, KatolaZ wrote:
> Is there anything I can do to solve the problem? I relly need
> qemu-system-*, for several reasons, I would not like to have it
> compiled from scratch and installed without a prope .deb, and I
> would stay on ascii to help reporting issues like this :)
this
Hi all,
just to report that qemu-system-* is not installable in ascii, since
there are a few unmet dependencies, namely:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
qemu-system-x86 : Depends: libiscsi2 (>= 1.10.0) but it is not installable
Depends: libpng12-0 (>= 1.2
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On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 02:04:08 -0400 (EDT)
Peter Olson wrote:
> > On June 14, 2016 at 1:43 AM Irrwahn wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 00:37:59 -0400 (EDT), Peter Olson wrote:
> >
> > [About possible branding issues for a hypothetical
> > futur
Hi,
Since Felker's minimal init as coded in C works, I will now try to
implement it in /bin/sh script, hopefully.
If it works as intended, I will post the resulting script.
Edward
On 14/06/2016, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I wrote a small shell script, nothing special, mind you, that calls
Hi,
I wrote a small shell script, nothing special, mind you, that calls rc
S and then rc 2 if rc S is successful. With Felker's minimal init,
which I edited to call my script version, I was able to load a useable
XFCE4 session through which I am sending this email.
I am attaching both Felker's C
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 12:13:12PM +0200, Irrwahn wrote:
[cut]
>
> Well, I was thinking about being able to shutdown or
> reboot the machine by sending signals to PID1. I am
> however aware it's debatable if that can still be
> considered a sane concept in the 21st century.
>
> And TBH, sta
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 11:20:25 +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> On 14/06/2016, Irrwahn wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 10:47:02 +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote:
>>> With some code editing to load a shell using the command system(), I
>>> finally am using Felker's minimal init.
[...]
>> Now, for a little
Hi Greg,
I've read had a look and a test. Please see my ramblings below. I am in
no hurry. So please take your time. ;)
On 06/14/2016 10:02 AM, Greg Olsen wrote:
On 2016-06-14 00:39, Simon Walter wrote:
> Well, maybe I didn't say it correctly. Is there already a devuan-keyring
> package on
Hi,
On 14/06/2016, Irrwahn wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 10:47:02 +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> With some code editing to load a shell using the command system(), I
>> finally am using Felker's minimal init. In fact, I am posting this
>> through XFCE4 using Felker's minimal init.
>>
>
Hi Folks,
The lxc-devuan README is now updated to contain the LXC testing coverage
to this point:
Test Machine Specs / LXC Version Coverage
LXC versions tested:
* LXC 1.1.5 on my Workstation/Laptop
o Devuan Ceres
o Devuan Jessie
o Devuan Jessie (32-bit)
* Nested LXC 1.
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 04:15:00 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 08:37:29AM +0200, Irrwahn wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 02:04:08 -0400 (EDT), Peter Olson wrote:
>>> On June 14, 2016 at 1:43 AM Irrwahn wrote:
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 00:37:59 -0400 (EDT), Peter Olson wrote:
>
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 09:33:59 +0200, Irrwahn Grausewitz wrote:
[Sorry for piggy-backing on my own post here.]
Just for the fun of it, here's a more elaborate discussion
of Felker's minimal init code:
> #define _XOPEN_SOURCE 700
> #include
> #include
Add
#include
here to satisfy the compi
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 08:54:12 +0200
Edward Bartolo wrote:
> According to my logic the endless loops should be at the
> end rather than at the middle of the code.
You need to write several programs using fork(). After a call to
fork(), there are two copies of that same program running, the main
d
On Tue, Jun 14, 2016 at 08:37:29AM +0200, Irrwahn wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 02:04:08 -0400 (EDT), Peter Olson wrote:
> > On June 14, 2016 at 1:43 AM Irrwahn wrote:
> >> On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 00:37:59 -0400 (EDT), Peter Olson wrote:
> >>>
> >>> This is why there is Iceweasel instead of Firefox.
>
Le 14/06/2016 10:11, Steve Litt a écrit :
>With all the due respect, anyone can put a few lines in a shell script
>or in a C code to create two devices and call rc. But we should be
>honest and tell Bartolo, and anybody else willing to go down this
>path, that this is not exactly "making a custom
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 08:54:12 +0200
Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I downloaded and compiled Felker's minimal init but found it didn't
> work. Examining the code it seems that the website had been
> vandalised. According to my logic the endless loops should be at the
> end rather than at the mid
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 05:44:27 +0100
KatolaZ wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 09:37:11PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> >
> > Right now, Felker's PID1 is the acknowledged "Hello World" PID1.
> > But as I remember you have to add an #include to get it to work with
> > mainstream Linuxes,
Le 14/06/2016 08:54, Edward Bartolo a écrit :
Hi,
I downloaded and compiled Felker's minimal init but found it didn't
work. Examining the code it seems that the website had been
vandalised. According to my logic the endless loops should be at the
end rather than at the middle of the code. Furthe
On Tue, 14 Jun 2016 08:54:12 +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I downloaded and compiled Felker's minimal init but found it didn't
> work. Examining the code it seems that the website had been
> vandalised.
Assuming you are referring to the code quoted below:
No, it's the correct version,
Le 14/06/2016 01:34, dev1fanboy a écrit :
I have heard Debian will follow the ESR releases (even in stable) so avoiding
any of that whilst having a non chrom(e|ium) browser will be harder if that's
true.
Actually, if you apt-get upgrade Devuan Jessie now, it will replace
Iceweasel with
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