Re: [DNG] You might have seen this already...

2016-05-28 Thread Simon Walter
On 05/29/2016 03:20 PM, Edward Bartolo wrote: After all, it is money that counts. I am of the opinion that it is veracity that counts. I am also of the opinion that there are many who share the previous opinion with me. Therefore not all software will cater to the ignorant. __

Re: [DNG] You might have seen this already...

2016-05-28 Thread メット
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 2016年5月29日 8:43:56 JST, Simon Walter wrote: >On 05/28/2016 09:55 PM, Rainer Weikusat wrote: >> This means the leading sentence would be more appropriately worded as > >> "In my opinion, it's actually quite strange that UNIX(*) enables >users >>

Re: [DNG] You might have seen this already...

2016-05-28 Thread Edward Bartolo
Hi All, Since programming is done by people, who often have a motive behind their actions, the question as to why this is happening is not technical, but sociological. The new 'winds of change' that are affecting free unix like OSs like Linux, are powered by a deep belief that users are often unw

Re: [DNG] You might have seen this already...

2016-05-28 Thread Simon Walter
On 05/28/2016 09:55 PM, Rainer Weikusat wrote: This means the leading sentence would be more appropriately worded as "In my opinion, it's actually quite strange that UNIX(*) enables users of the system to run background jobs". Well put! On 05/29/2016 02:48 AM, Steve Litt wrote: I see poette

Re: [DNG] You might have seen this already...

2016-05-28 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 28 May 2016 09:57:18 +0100 KatolaZ wrote: > And here you find an educated explanation, directly from "The Mind" > who is driving the revolution of this centrury: > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/de...@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/XW7V5A3RAWYCACU2ZMPA27ARRLIZUI37/ I

Re: [DNG] You might have seen this already...

2016-05-28 Thread Rainer Weikusat
KatolaZ writes: [...] > And here you find an educated explanation, directly from "The Mind" > who is driving the revolution of this centrury: > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/de...@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/XW7V5A3RAWYCACU2ZMPA27ARRLIZUI37/ That's an interesting explanati

Re: [DNG] You might have seen this already...

2016-05-28 Thread Dan Purgert
KatolaZ wrote: > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=825394 > > Posted yesterday on the IRC channel #devuan. It'a already in > Debian/sid. And apparently is there to stay. The real reason for such > an "important feature" enabled by default? Cleaning up hanging > processes left over

Re: [DNG] Linux-libre-4.5.4

2016-05-28 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 28 May 2016 09:28:58 +0200, aitor_czr wrote in message <574948ba.8070...@gnuinos.org>: > I applied succesfully 138 patches of debian to linux-libre-4.5.4 and > just started building it in devuan jessie, including all the required > udeb modules for the installer. > > Crossing my finger

Re: [DNG] Devuan-minimal-JWM mini-howto [was Thanks...]

2016-05-28 Thread Irrwahn
On Sat, 28 May 2016 11:52:44 +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: [...] (Thanks Didier, for the change of subject, I only thought about that *after* hitting the send button ... d'oh! ;-) > I sort of remember there was a discussion about keyboard shortcuts > to terminate session. Was this in another t

[DNG] Devuan-minimal-JWM mini-howto [was Thanks...]

2016-05-28 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 27/05/2016 23:27, Irrwahn a écrit : On Fri, 27 May 2016 10:01:12 +0100, Katolaz wrote: On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 10:58:00AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 27/05/2016 02:39, emnin...@riseup.net a écrit : I've finished now, more or less, my installation with a "custom made" jwm desktop. So far,

Re: [DNG] You might have seen this already...

2016-05-28 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 28/05/2016 10:57, KatolaZ a écrit : https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=825394 Posted yesterday on the IRC channel #devuan. It'a already in Debian/sid. And apparently is there to stay. The real reason for such an "important feature" enabled by default? Cleaning up hanging proces

[DNG] You might have seen this already...

2016-05-28 Thread KatolaZ
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=825394 Posted yesterday on the IRC channel #devuan. It'a already in Debian/sid. And apparently is there to stay. The real reason for such an "important feature" enabled by default? Cleaning up hanging processes left over by GNOME, in the first inst

[DNG] Linux-libre-4.5.4

2016-05-28 Thread aitor_czr
I applied succesfully 138 patches of debian to linux-libre-4.5.4 and just started building it in devuan jessie, including all the required udeb modules for the installer. Crossing my fingers :) What do you think about including all the packages of VDEV in the installer of the beta of gnuinos,