On Tue, 24 May 2016 02:16:32 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:39:00 +0200
> Irrwahn wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:05:30 +0200, Emninger wrote:
[...]
>>> How can i add JWM to the recognized sessions?f 'update-alternatives
>>> --config x-session-manager' only sees lxsession, s
On Mon, 23 May 2016, Irrwahn wrote:
> On Mon, 23 May 2016 21:16:51 +0200, Jaromil wrote:
> [...]
> > on another note I wonder if all this knowledge put forward here,
> > for example on this thread on what is good for the PDF viewer
> > functionality, can be gathered into a sort of wiki document.
On Mon, 23 May 2016, Irrwahn wrote:
> On Mon, 23 May 2016 23:16:48 +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
> > Le 23/05/2016 19:49, Jaromil a écrit :
> >> I have no use for a PDF
> >> viewer that can't print. Else I'd just use Emacs for that too ;^)
> >> ___
> >
> >
On Mon, 23 May 2016, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 23/05/2016 19:49, Jaromil a écrit :
> >I have no use for a PDF
> >viewer that can't print. Else I'd just use Emacs for that too ;^)
> >___
>
> Indeed it does! I didn't even thought to try that. Looks like
On Mon, 23 May 2016, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 10:29:30PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> > Rainer Weikusat writes:
> >
> > [...]
> >
> > > Emacs is a somewhat old-fashioned/ traditional[*] Lisp implemenation
> >
> > [*] It doesn't support lexical scoping.
>
> That's what'
Am Tue, 24 May 2016 05:41:47 +
schrieb Irrwahn :
> No need to, since there is no such dependency at all:
>
> /lightdm_1.10.3-3_amd64.deb
> --\ Depends (11)
> --- adduser
> --- dbus
> --- debconf (>= 0.5) | debconf-2.0
> --- libc6 (>= 2.14)
> --- libgcrypt20 (>= 1.6.0)
>
Am Tue, 24 May 2016 05:41:47 +
schrieb Irrwahn :
> If you really want to take that route: Good luck with that.
I understand :) And, no, i will not!!! I don't want to stress the
people willed to help ;)
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On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:39:00 +0200
Irrwahn wrote:
> On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:05:30 +0200, Emninger wrote:
> > Am Tue, 24 May 2016 00:42:55 +
> > schrieb Adam Borowski >
> >> update-alternatives --config x-session-manager
> >
> > That's it!! :)
>
> No, it's not. But see below.
>
> > N
On Tue, 24 May 2016 07:05:30 +0200, Emninger wrote:
> Am Tue, 24 May 2016 00:42:55 +
> schrieb Adam Borowski
>> update-alternatives --config x-session-manager
>
> That's it!! :)
No, it's not. But see below.
> Now, there remains the question:
>
> How can i add JWM to the recognized sessio
Am Tue, 24 May 2016 00:42:55 +
schrieb dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org:
> update-alternatives --config x-session-manager
Addendum: I reflected a bit about the problem how to add jwm to the
available choices for update alternatives:
I looked into x-session-manager and i found this lines:
#!/
On Tue, 24 May 2016 06:58:10 +0200, Emninger wrote:
[...]
> PS. If lightdm is the future: is there a way to free it from the
> gnome-accessibility and other dependencies? May be someone able to
> package can have a look at?
No need to, since there is no such dependency at all:
/lightdm_1.10.3-3_a
Am Tue, 24 May 2016 00:42:55 +
schrieb Adam Borowski update-alternatives --config x-session-manager
That's it!! :)
Now, there remains the question:
How can i add JWM to the recognized sessions?f 'update-alternatives
--config x-session-manager' only sees lxsession, startlxde and openbox
but
Am Tue, 24 May 2016 00:42:55 +
schrieb Didier Kryn :
> Doesn't slim use the last one on next session?
Unfortunately not; lightdm does.
PS. If lightdm is the future: is there a way to free it from the
gnome-accessibility and other dependencies? May be someone able to
package can have a look
[Re-post to list, accidentally hit wrong reply button.]
On Tue, 24 May 2016 01:06:23 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 10:10:47PM +0200, emnin...@riseup.net wrote:
>> Where it is coded, that lxde (startlxde) is the default session (for
>> slim; it's also the topmost one in ligh
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 11:16:48PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 23/05/2016 19:49, Jaromil a écrit :
> >I have no use for a PDF
> >viewer that can't print. Else I'd just use Emacs for that too ;^)
> >___
>
> Indeed it does! I didn't even thought to
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 10:29:30PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> Rainer Weikusat writes:
>
> [...]
>
> > Emacs is a somewhat old-fashioned/ traditional[*] Lisp implemenation
>
> [*] It doesn't support lexical scoping.
That's what's old-fashioned about it. And there's some work on
changing
On 05/23/2016 04:10 PM, emnin...@riseup.net wrote:
> Where it is coded, that lxde (startlxde) is the default session (for
> slim; it's also the topmost one in lightdm, but lightdm has the
> "memory" function)?
>
> I can cycle thru the available sessions by F1 but i would prefer to
> automatically
I'd love to install Atril, but after an "apt-get update" and "apt-get
dist-upgrade" it's no longer in the repositories for AntiX. I'm not sure
why that is.
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On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 10:10:47PM +0200, emnin...@riseup.net wrote:
> Where it is coded, that lxde (startlxde) is the default session (for
> slim; it's also the topmost one in lightdm, but lightdm has the
> "memory" function)?
>
> I can cycle thru the available sessions by F1 but i would prefer
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 01:35:27PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Mon, 23 May 2016 08:59:15 -0400
> Haines Brown wrote:
>
>
> > In light of the discussion here, what is the difference between
> > automatic installation and being default? If qpdfview is default, why
> > do folks nevertheless turn
Rainer Weikusat writes:
[...]
> Emacs is a somewhat old-fashioned/ traditional[*] Lisp implemenation
[*] It doesn't support lexical scoping.
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On Mon, 23 May 2016 23:16:48 +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 23/05/2016 19:49, Jaromil a écrit :
>> I have no use for a PDF
>> viewer that can't print. Else I'd just use Emacs for that too ;^)
>> ___
>
> Indeed it does! I didn't even thought to try t
Didier Kryn writes:
> Le 23/05/2016 19:49, Jaromil a écrit :
>> I have no use for a PDF
>> viewer that can't print. Else I'd just use Emacs for that too ;^)
>> ___
>
> Indeed it does! I didn't even thought to try that. Looks like one
> of these usele
Le 23/05/2016 22:10, emnin...@riseup.net a écrit :
Where it is coded, that lxde (startlxde) is the default session (for
slim; it's also the topmost one in lightdm, but lightdm has the
"memory" function)?
I can cycle thru the available sessions by F1 but i would prefer to
automatically have jwm a
On Mon, 23 May 2016 22:10:47 +0200, Emninger wrote:
> Where it is coded, that lxde (startlxde) is the default session (for
> slim; it's also the topmost one in lightdm, but lightdm has the
> "memory" function)?
>
> I can cycle thru the available sessions by F1 but i would prefer to
> automaticall
Le 23/05/2016 19:49, Jaromil a écrit :
I have no use for a PDF
viewer that can't print. Else I'd just use Emacs for that too ;^)
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Indeed it does! I didn't even thought to try that. Looks like one
of these useless features in Emacs, given the n
On Mon, 23 May 2016 22:11:04 +0200, Paweł Cholewiński wrote:
> W dniu 23.05.2016 o 08:50, Adam Borowski pisze:
>> Evince is evil and insane. #721783 is one of many regressions. You want
>> atril for a fork of evince from before its upstream went completely bonkers.
>> It's still gnomey but to a
W dniu 23.05.2016 o 20:00, Irrwahn pisze:
> (Another example would be EOM, which is a simple and very
> fast image viewer, clone of EOG.)
Good to know :-)
Regards
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W dniu 23.05.2016 o 08:50, Adam Borowski pisze:
> Evince is evil and insane. #721783 is one of many regressions. You want
> atril for a fork of evince from before its upstream went completely bonkers.
> It's still gnomey but to a far more acceptable degree.
I like evince on Debian Wheezy. I wou
Where it is coded, that lxde (startlxde) is the default session (for
slim; it's also the topmost one in lightdm, but lightdm has the
"memory" function)?
I can cycle thru the available sessions by F1 but i would prefer to
automatically have jwm as default (and not lxde). I found an
instruction on
On Mon, 23 May 2016 21:16:51 +0200, Jaromil wrote:
[...]
> on another note I wonder if all this knowledge put forward here, for
> example on this thread on what is good for the PDF viewer
> functionality, can be gathered into a sort of wiki document. IT would
> be useful to have a menu structure t
On Mon, 23 May 2016, Irrwahn wrote:
> You're welcome, but I guess we both should thank the fine
> guys running the MATE project. They are the ones keeping
> the GNOME2 tools alive
you are right here. There are a lot of developers out there who are so
deep into development work that is hardly vi
On Mon, 23 May 2016 20:49:24 +0200, Emninger wrote:
> Am Mon, 23 May 2016 18:11:51 +
> schrieb Irrwahn :
>
>> (Another example would be EOM, which is a simple and very
>> fast image viewer, clone of EOG.)
>
> Offtopic, but: Why not viewnior? It's fast, small and very efficient (i
> knew it f
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 08:05:18PM +0200, aitor_czr wrote:
>
>
> El 23/05/16 a las 18:57, KatolaZ escribió:
> >Hi Aitor,
> >
> >thanks a lot for spotting that:) Indeed, we are using only
> >initrd_devuan_micro.img at the moment. I have checked that the amd64
> >version does not have it, and I wi
Am Mon, 23 May 2016 18:11:51 +
schrieb Irrwahn :
> (Another example would be EOM, which is a simple and very
> fast image viewer, clone of EOG.)
Offtopic, but: Why not viewnior? It's fast, small and very efficient (i
knew it from crunchbang which for sure was not that bad as distro).
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El 23/05/16 a las 19:13, fsmithred escribió:
Modified refractasnapshot to make a snapshot of a system other than the
one you're running. The snapshotted system only needs live-boot* and
live-config* packages installed. The refractasnapshot deps and the script
only need to be installed on
El 23/05/16 a las 18:57, KatolaZ escribió:
Hi Aitor,
thanks a lot for spotting that:) Indeed, we are using only
initrd_devuan_micro.img at the moment. I have checked that the amd64
version does not have it, and I will remove the unneeded one from the
i386 image. Since it is xz-ed, this will r
On Mon, 23 May 2016 13:23:20 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Mon, 23 May 2016 08:58:53 +0200
> Irrwahn wrote:
[...]
>> BTW: Everyone who liked Evince, as it was in the GNOME 2
>> days might want to have a look at Atril, a fork of Evince.
[...]
> Based on your recommendation, I just installed Atril
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 07:49:13PM +0200, Jaromil wrote:
> On Mon, 23 May 2016, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> > But Evince had one thing mupdf doesn't: A print function. A lot of
> > times a PDF that won't print right just by saying lpr -P myprinter
> > mypdf.pdf will print just fine if printed from Evinc
On Mon, 23 May 2016, Steve Litt wrote:
> But Evince had one thing mupdf doesn't: A print function. A lot of
> times a PDF that won't print right just by saying lpr -P myprinter
> mypdf.pdf will print just fine if printed from Evince.
yep, that kept me stuck with evince all this time and until now
On Mon, 23 May 2016 08:59:15 -0400
Haines Brown wrote:
> In light of the discussion here, what is the difference between
> automatic installation and being default? If qpdfview is default, why
> do folks nevertheless turn to atril?
Ability to print.
SteveT
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On Mon, 23 May 2016 08:58:53 +0200
Irrwahn wrote:
> On Mon, 23 May 2016 07:45:40 +0200, Emninger wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > I do not know if it is intended to do such trivial suggestions
> > but ... ;)
> >
> > Being on my way to adapt my (jwm/fluxbox) setup to what i had
> > before on slackware, i
Modified refractasnapshot to make a snapshot of a system other than the
one you're running. The snapshotted system only needs live-boot* and
live-config* packages installed. The refractasnapshot deps and the script
only need to be installed on the host system.
Works on a mounted filesystem or a di
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 06:50:28PM +0200, aitor_czr wrote:
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>
> Hi KatolaZ,
>
> There are two initrd's in the iso of 32 bits:
>
> initrd_devuan.img (6,8 MiB)
> initrd_devuan_micro.img (6,1 MiB)
>
> I suppose that the first one is superfluous. Isn't it?
>
Hi Aitor,
thanks a lot for spo
El 23/05/16 a las 12:37, KatolaZ escribió:
Dear Devuaners,
a new version of the Unofficial Devuan Minimal Live Images can be
downloaded at:
http://devuan.kalos.mine.nu
The images are available for amd64 and i386 (more architectures might
come out soon) and, despite including much more st
El 23/05/16 a las 14:00, fsmithred escribió:
I installed using the devuan installer at the boot menu. The first time, I
chose a root password. When I booted into the new installation, I could
log in as user, but I could not su to root and could not use sudo. Logging
in as root did not work, e
El 23/05/16 a las 14:00, fsmithred escribió:
I installed using the devuan installer at the boot menu. The first time, I
chose a root password. When I booted into the new installation, I could
log in as user, but I could not su to root and could not use sudo. Logging
in as root did not work, ei
Hi ,
I will tel you two things and ask for help
First one in my Devuan1 lxde are many terminals , some on LXDE and some on
Debian blok.
No one works.Example:LXterminal(sad@devuan: `s) I type command and than I see:
" sad is not in sudo system.We will report this crash.
Second: when I installed s
On Mon, 23 May 2016 16:08:30 +0200, Emninger wrote:
[...]
> (in /etc/xdg/autostart there was the orca screen reader). So it was
> easy.
Now, that makes sense. :)
[...]
> /usr/lib/notification-daemon/notification-daemon has to be there or is
> for example dunst intended to substitute it?
That file
This problem is driving me nuts: I cannot logout neither from lxde
using lxde-logout nor from jwm using jwm -exit. And even C-A-Backsp
does not work.
I'm logged out yes, but then i end up in dead terminal with the
underline cursor up left.
This is true as any user, also as root.
The /var/log/sli
Thanks very mutch.It is so exiting,becouse fo a spesial filling for freedom and
beauty.
23.05.2016, 10:09, "KatolaZ" :
> Dear Devuaners,
>
> a new version of the Unofficial Devuan Minimal Live Images can be
> downloaded at:
>
> http://devuan.kalos.mine.nu
>
> The images are available for amd64
Am Mon, 23 May 2016 12:00:01 +
schrieb dng-requ...@lists.dyne.org:
> Re: voice notifying - how to turn off (Irrwahn)
I understood where the problem lay and so i solved: It was i had
installed dex to give to jwm the possibility to autostart the .desktop
files in /etc/xdg/autostart and in ~/.co
On Mon, 23 May 2016 08:50:15 +0200
Adam Borowski wrote:
> Evince is evil and insane. #721783 is one of many regressions. You
> want atril for a fork of evince from before its upstream went
> completely bonkers. It's still gnomey but to a far more acceptable
> degree.
Thanks for the hint. I use
Thank you for all your work.
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Hi all,
El 21/05/16 a las 14:00, Didier Kryn escrib
I don't want divert the thread, but would like to widen it a bit.
I have been using xpdf for viewing/printing PDF files, but it
increasingly fails to print some PDFs, and so I look for
alternatives.
Appealing of MuPDF because of its simplicity and the quality of its
display, but it lacks printing
On Mon, 23 May 2016, Adam Borowski wrote:
> Evince is evil and insane. #721783 is one of many regressions. You want
> atril for a fork of evince from before its upstream went completely bonkers.
> It's still gnomey but to a far more acceptable degree.
ah! thanks for this! *finally* I got rid o
On Mon, 23 May 2016 14:07:52 +0200, Emninger wrote:
> Am Mon, 23 May 2016 10:37:45 +
> schrieb Irrwahn :
>
> [ . . . ]
>
>> There is no such thing as a default PDF viewer for Devuan.
>
> Ok, i said it in the wrong way: Installing Devuan + LXDE desktop brings
> Evince ... My idea was simply,
Am Mon, 23 May 2016 10:37:45 +
schrieb Irrwahn :
[ . . . ]
> There is no such thing as a default PDF viewer for Devuan.
Ok, i said it in the wrong way: Installing Devuan + LXDE desktop brings
Evince ... My idea was simply, that's not really coherent with the idea
of Devuan. Moreover, removin
On 05/22/2016 06:33 PM, aitor_czr wrote:
> Hi fsr,
>
> El 22/05/16 a las 23:41, fsmithred escribió:
>> On 05/22/2016 04:17 PM, aitor_czr wrote:
>>> >
>>> >I rebuilt KatolaZ's distribution doing some minor changes: I added
>>> >deborphan, firmware-linux-free and ntp... I also removed the refracta
>
On Mon, 23 May 2016 12:37:34 +0200, Emninger wrote:
> All of a sudden i'm getting many notifying msgs as voice msg as well
> (also all i do in synaptic or sakura may be even other programs). Now,
> i'd like to know, which is the standard notify daemon for devuan and if
> it can eventually turned of
All of a sudden i'm getting many notifying msgs as voice msg as well
(also all i do in synaptic or sakura may be even other programs). Now,
i'd like to know, which is the standard notify daemon for devuan and if
it can eventually turned off/removed (and be substituted bei dunst)?
Or, otherwise, h
Add-on:
> I also found an instruction to
> create /var/lib/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/custom-actions.pkla
> with this content:
>
>
> [Actions for user ]
> Identity=unix-user:
> Action=org.freedesktop.upower.*;org.freedesktop.consolekit.system.*;org.freedesktop.udisks.*
> ResultAny=y
Thanks to Ozi i got two desktop independent logout/hibernate tools which
generally work fine (cb-exit and oblogout). But i have a problem when i
try the suspend/restart commands:
I get this error msg:
---
Error org.freedesktop.UPower.GeneralError: not authorized
---
The command in the above tool
Dear Devuaners,
a new version of the Unofficial Devuan Minimal Live Images can be
downloaded at:
http://devuan.kalos.mine.nu
The images are available for amd64 and i386 (more architectures might
come out soon) and, despite including much more stuff, still fit into
256MB of space, and can boot
On Mon, 23 May 2016 07:45:40 +0200, Emninger wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I do not know if it is intended to do such trivial suggestions
> but ... ;)
>
> Being on my way to adapt my (jwm/fluxbox) setup to what i had before on
> slackware, i stumbled into this: Devuan comes with evince by default.
There is n
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