Re: [DNG] Open Letter To Linas Vepstas

2016-04-30 Thread dev1fanboy
A good read. It reminds me of when I assumed windows/ms-dos was the only OS you could install on a PC, many years of ranting and about two of which when I knew that "linux" existed and I finally switched, then changed distro shortly after due to the bloat of the "recommended" newbie distros and

Re: [DNG] sources.list targets (was: Re: Devuan Security Repo (was Re: invalid security certificate)

2016-04-30 Thread Joel Roth
Joel Roth wrote: > Hi, > > The devuan.org website gives these targets: > > deb http://auto.mirrors.devuan.org/merged jessie main > deb http://auto.mirrors.devuan.org/merged jessie-updates main > deb http://auto.mirrors.devuan.org/merged jessie-security main > > However, apt-get update returns

[DNG] sources.list targets (was: Re: Devuan Security Repo (was Re: invalid security certificate)

2016-04-30 Thread Joel Roth
Joel Roth wrote: > Joel Roth wrote: > > Daniel Reurich wrote: > > > We now have jessie-security and ascii-security repositories available on > > > our mirrors > > > > > deb http(s)://.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-security main > > > [contrib] [non-free] > > > > https didn't work on my system.

Re: [DNG] cloud

2016-04-30 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 01/05/16 09:19, Herb Garcia wrote: > Ok. Regarding the Openstack instance, > > First you need to log in as user debian@0.0.0.0 , > the ssh is setup properly but gets you to a $. > > Running ls gives > "debian devuan" > running "devuan" asks for password. But what passwor

Re: [DNG] cloud

2016-04-30 Thread Herb Garcia
How about it is fixed so you don't ssh in as "Debian" and you can log into a working console? Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Droid On Apr 30, 2016 8:54 PM, Go Linux wrote: On Sat, 4/30/16, Hughe Chung wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] cloud To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Saturday, April 30, 2016, 8:33 P

Re: [DNG] cloud

2016-04-30 Thread Go Linux
On Sat, 4/30/16, Hughe Chung wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] cloud To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Saturday, April 30, 2016, 8:33 PM >How about cloudnine? How about Stratos. A reference to Star Trek episode the 'Cloud Minders'. golinux

Re: [DNG] cloud

2016-04-30 Thread Hughe Chung
How about cloudnine? Fuller was one of influential figures that changed my perspective about technology. Cloud Nine is a concept of floating building in the air. Part Four, Critical Path, R. Buckminster Fuller, 1981, p336 – p337 Cloud Nine Floating Tensegrity Spheres In 1958 I saw clearly

Re: [DNG] Open Letter To Linas Vepstas

2016-04-30 Thread Fernando M. Maresca
so +1. Thanks. On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 04:07:33PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > While his rant is about a year old, I wonder if things have improved for > him? > > When he discusses GNOME Shell, etc., perhaps what he doesn't realize is > that many of those developers may not be eating their own

Re: [DNG] Devuan Security Repo (was Re: invalid security certificate)

2016-04-30 Thread Go Linux
On Sat, 4/30/16, Don Wright wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Devuan Security Repo (was Re: invalid security certificate) To: "dng" Date: Saturday, April 30, 2016, 3:25 PM Daniel Reurich wrote: >We now have jessie-security and ascii-security repositories available on >our mirrors > >deb http(s

Re: [DNG] cloud

2016-04-30 Thread Herb Garcia
Ok. Regarding the Openstack instance, First you need to log in as user debian@0.0.0.0, the ssh is setup properly but gets you to a $. Running ls gives "debian devuan" running "devuan" asks for password. But what password? This needs a bit of fix. Sent from my Verizon 4G

Re: [DNG] Open Letter To Linas Vepstas

2016-04-30 Thread Nate Bargmann
While his rant is about a year old, I wonder if things have improved for him? When he discusses GNOME Shell, etc., perhaps what he doesn't realize is that many of those developers may not be eating their own dog food as it were. For how long haven't we been reading about and watching various vide

Re: [DNG] Devuan Security Repo (was Re: invalid security certificate)

2016-04-30 Thread Don Wright
Daniel Reurich wrote: >We now have jessie-security and ascii-security repositories available on >our mirrors > >deb http(s)://.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-security main >[contrib] [non-free] Would someone speak to the differences between auto.mirror.devuan.org and auto.mirrors.devuan.org? Th

Re: [DNG] cloud

2016-04-30 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 30/04/2016 18:00, Rainer Weikusat a écrit : Jaromil writes: [...] Can you come up with an alternative to 'cloud' which keeps generic, since cloud-init is not openstack specific? Stormbringer? ___ Cumulus-congestus or cumulo-nimbus? __

Re: [DNG] Devuan Security Repo (was Re: invalid security certificate)

2016-04-30 Thread Go Linux
On Sat, 4/30/16, Daniel Reurich wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Devuan Security Repo (was Re: invalid security certificate) To: "dev1fanboy" , "dng@lists.dyne.org" Date: Saturday, April 30, 2016, 6:12 AM We now have jessie-security and ascii-security repositories available on our mirrors

Re: [DNG] Open Letter To Linas Vepstas

2016-04-30 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 30 Apr 2016 14:59:55 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > A guy named Linas Vepstas wrote this essay/rant: > > http://linas.org/?utm_content=buffer5190b > > In response, I wrote this Open Letter to Linas Vepstas at: > > file:///d/websites/tjunct/linux/avoid_complexity.htm The URL *

[DNG] Open Letter To Linas Vepstas

2016-04-30 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, A guy named Linas Vepstas wrote this essay/rant: http://linas.org/?utm_content=buffer5190b In response, I wrote this Open Letter to Linas Vepstas at: file:///d/websites/tjunct/linux/avoid_complexity.htm Devuan's mentioned a couple times. SteveT Steve Litt April 2016 featured book:

Re: [DNG] Devuan Security Repo (was Re: invalid security certificate)

2016-04-30 Thread Joel Roth
Joel Roth wrote: > Daniel Reurich wrote: > > We now have jessie-security and ascii-security repositories available on > > our mirrors > > > deb http(s)://.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-security main > > [contrib] [non-free] > > https didn't work on my system. When I went to install > apt-transp

Re: [DNG] Devuan Security Repo (was Re: invalid security certificate)

2016-04-30 Thread Joel Roth
Daniel Reurich wrote: > We now have jessie-security and ascii-security repositories available on > our mirrors Great news! Yesterday I took the opportunity to switch my personal system from debian-jessie / sysvinit to devuan-jessie. It went perfectly. With such a smooth transition, I think many ot

Re: [DNG] cloud

2016-04-30 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 05:00:37PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > Jaromil writes: > > [...] > > > Can you come up with an alternative to 'cloud' which keeps generic, > > since cloud-init is not openstack specific? > > Stormbringer? I like this. It's funny, for Michael Moorcock fans. Arioch!

Re: [DNG] cloud (was: Beta)

2016-04-30 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 30 Apr 2016 10:12:40 +0200 Jaromil wrote: > Can you come up with an alternative to 'cloud' which keeps generic, > since cloud-init is not openstack specific? All I know is "cloud" is a meaningless buzzword of value only to marketers, probably of the Microsoft variety. Ask "what is the c

Re: [DNG] cloud

2016-04-30 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Jaromil writes: [...] > Can you come up with an alternative to 'cloud' which keeps generic, > since cloud-init is not openstack specific? Stormbringer? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] mounting an android phone as usb storage

2016-04-30 Thread Rainer Weikusat
Nate Bargmann writes: > * On 2016 29 Apr 15:29 -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 11:31:29AM -0400, Steven W. Scott wrote: >> > Alas, some are, some aren't and it seems to depend on manufacturer. Android >> > is a wild-west with tens of thousands of different devices and every >

Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie - beta release announcement

2016-04-30 Thread Emiliano Marini
Thank you very much for this Beta release. Go Devuan! On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 11:21 AM, Go Linux wrote: > On Fri, 4/29/16, Harald Arnesen wrote: > > Subject: Re: [DNG] Devuan Jessie - beta release announcement > To: dng@lists.dyne.org > Date: Friday, April 29, 2016, 7:07 AM > > >> Veteran Un

Re: [DNG] cloud (was: Beta)

2016-04-30 Thread Herb Garcia
_cloud-init_ ? Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Droid On Apr 30, 2016 3:08 AM, Jaromil wrote: On Fri, 29 Apr 2016, Herb Garcia wrote: >+1 >On Apr 29, 2016 10:05 AM, hellekin wrote: > _cloud_ is the worst label ever. Please tag it openstack, as there are > other cluster technol

Re: [DNG] Devuan Security Repo (was Re: invalid security certificate)

2016-04-30 Thread Herb Garcia
Excellent! On Apr 30, 2016 6:10 AM, Daniel Reurich wrote: We now have jessie-security and ascii-security repositories available on our mirrors deb http(s)://.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-security main [contrib] [non-free] If you've installed from the beta image the security repo stanza should

Re: [DNG] Devuan Security Repo (was Re: invalid security certificate)

2016-04-30 Thread dev1fanboy
Nice one :) Just tested it and it's all working here, pulling about 40 updates right now :) Cheers, chillfan On Saturday, April 30, 2016 12:12 PM, Daniel Reurich wrote: > We now have jessie-security and ascii-security repositories available on > our mirrors > > deb http(s)://.mirror.devuan.o

[DNG] Congratulations !

2016-04-30 Thread zeanmi
Thank you for that great work ! zeanmi ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Devuan Security Repo (was Re: invalid security certificate)

2016-04-30 Thread Daniel Reurich
We now have jessie-security and ascii-security repositories available on our mirrors deb http(s)://.mirror.devuan.org/merged jessie-security main [contrib] [non-free] If you've installed from the beta image the security repo stanza should already be in your /etc/apt/sources.list Thanks go to Fra

Re: [DNG] Devuan Security Repo (was Re: invalid security certificate)

2016-04-30 Thread dev1fanboy
You'll get updates from time to time when the debian main repo gets updated. Best to wait for devuan security mirror instead of trying to use the debian mirror, as you can end up with packages that use systemd that way. Cheers, chillfan On Saturday, April 30, 2016 8:00 AM, Herb Garcia wrote

Re: [DNG] [helle...@dyne.org: Re: Missing packages]

2016-04-30 Thread Haines Brown
On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 05:41:18PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2016 29 Apr 16:53 -0500, Haines Brown wrote: > > > Let me see if I understand you correctly. the package firmware-iwlwifi > > is not open software, and so is not available from the devuan package > > archive. So > > > > a) Th

[DNG] cloud (was: Beta)

2016-04-30 Thread Jaromil
On Fri, 29 Apr 2016, Herb Garcia wrote: >+1 >On Apr 29, 2016 10:05 AM, hellekin wrote: > _cloud_ is the worst label ever.  Please tag it openstack, as there are > other cluster technologies. but its not openstack specific... at least in theory. I have been briefed about thi

Re: [DNG] mounting an android phone as usb storage

2016-04-30 Thread fuumind
lol! You never know! There are experiments being done on teleportation. ;) This is kind of interesting! 'jmtpfs mnt' told me 'No mtp devices found.' which led me to check out my phone a little more in detail. I found I could select which mode I wanted it to use and I had been using USB mode all

Re: [DNG] Devuan Security Repo (was Re: invalid security certificate)

2016-04-30 Thread Herb Garcia
Um. Then what source is recommended for security updates? Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Droid On Apr 29, 2016 10:45 AM, hellekin wrote: On 04/29/2016 03:27 PM, Haines Brown wrote: > > security.devuan.org uses an invalid security certificate. > The certificate is only valid for the following nam